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Absolute garbage treatment from ZOS...

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Seeing all my friends downloading the game at full freaking speed while I have to see my download throttle to 200KB/s when it can go up to 1.7MB/s...

That's 1/8 if my top speed, that's already SUPER slow... Why am I being throttled? Because I'm not in the US? Second class consumer? I'm paying 62 bucks a month for this piece of software. Not 15. Take that into consideration and tell me why my downloads are so slow? My launcher has been opened all day and it's just now at 15%!

I've used speedtest on multiple devices to check my speed and everything is ok on my isp side. On my friends in the US, all is good too, so it's definitely your poopy service that's at fault, ZOS. I'm paying an excruciatingly expensive monthly bill to play this game. What kind of service is this?

Don't give me "server load" bs because, like I said, all my friends in the US are having it full speed, some even ten times as fast or more than my Max speed, let alone my currently throttled speed.

This is a shame, it's frustrating and disgusting.
Edited by ZonasArch on February 24, 2020 6:54PM
  • WhitePawPrints
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    There are basically innumerable reasons on why your internet speed is not performing to it's maximum capacity. One of the biggest "unknown" reasons is if you have a splitter in your house, it halves your Internet speed. Your ISP could be experiencing issues or overload. Other use in your household. Interference from weather. Etc.

    I'm by no means IT savvy but I know that Internet Max Speed rarely ever means you'll actually hit that speed because there are just so many factors that can slow it down.
  • kathandira
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    ZonasArch wrote: »
    Seeing all my friends downloading the game at full freaking speed while I have to see my download throttle to 200KB/s when it can go up to 1.7MB/s...

    That's 1/8 if my top speed, that's already SUPER slow... Why am I being throttled? Because I'm not in the US? Second class consumer? I'm paying 62 bucks a month for this piece of software. Not 15. Take that into consideration and tell me why my downloads are so slow? My launcher has been opened all day and it's just now at 15%!

    I've used speedtest on multiple devices to check my speed and everything is ok on my isp side. On my friends in the US, all is good too, so it's definitely your poopy service that's at fault, ZOS. I'm paying an excruciatingly expensive monthly bill to play this game. What kind of service is this?

    Don't give me "server load" bs because, like I said, all my friends in the US are having it full speed, some even ten times as fast or more than my Max speed, let alone my currently throttled speed.

    This is a shame, it's frustrating and disgusting.

    First of all....1.7mb/s?! That is trash to start with.
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  • ZonasArch
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    There are basically innumerable reasons on why your internet speed is not performing to it's maximum capacity. One of the biggest "unknown" reasons is if you have a splitter in your house, it halves your Internet speed. Your ISP could be experiencing issues or overload. Other use in your household. Interference from weather. Etc.

    I'm by no means IT savvy but I know that Internet Max Speed rarely ever means you'll actually hit that speed because there are just so many factors that can slow it down.

    I speed tested on multiple devices and my speed is not an issue right now.
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    imagine blaming zos for your low speed... wait do zos provide network services? I wanna sub if so...screw telekom if I can get zos network that means il never have issues with spikes and high ping while playing the game ever!!!!
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    why are you paying 62 bucks/month? :open_mouth:
    as for zos treating some of their customers as second class, it's a sad reality and i am mad about it as well. :unamused:
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  • ZonasArch
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    kathandira wrote: »
    ZonasArch wrote: »
    Seeing all my friends downloading the game at full freaking speed while I have to see my download throttle to 200KB/s when it can go up to 1.7MB/s...

    That's 1/8 if my top speed, that's already SUPER slow... Why am I being throttled? Because I'm not in the US? Second class consumer? I'm paying 62 bucks a month for this piece of software. Not 15. Take that into consideration and tell me why my downloads are so slow? My launcher has been opened all day and it's just now at 15%!

    I've used speedtest on multiple devices to check my speed and everything is ok on my isp side. On my friends in the US, all is good too, so it's definitely your poopy service that's at fault, ZOS. I'm paying an excruciatingly expensive monthly bill to play this game. What kind of service is this?

    Don't give me "server load" bs because, like I said, all my friends in the US are having it full speed, some even ten times as fast or more than my Max speed, let alone my currently throttled speed.

    This is a shame, it's frustrating and disgusting.

    First of all....1.7mb/s?! That is trash to start with.

    I know right? So why would they throttle if it's already super slow? Just... Why?

    Also, if you're not gonna input with something helpful, go *** on your mom's pillow, not on my things. I didn't ask for your opinion on my bandwidth and you do not know the reality I live in.

    If you wanna pay my bills, I'll let you trash talk my stuff, otherwise, STFU.
  • ZonasArch
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    imagine blaming zos for your low speed... wait do zos provide network services? I wanna sub if so...screw telekom if I can get zos network that means il never have issues with spikes and high ping while playing the game ever!!!!

    Did you even read the post? O.o my speed is slow by default, but right now ONLY WITHIN THE LAUNCHER, it's about 1/8 of what it normally is.

    Learn how to read before making fun of people.
  • WhitePawPrints
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    ZonasArch wrote: »
    There are basically innumerable reasons on why your internet speed is not performing to it's maximum capacity. One of the biggest "unknown" reasons is if you have a splitter in your house, it halves your Internet speed. Your ISP could be experiencing issues or overload. Other use in your household. Interference from weather. Etc.

    I'm by no means IT savvy but I know that Internet Max Speed rarely ever means you'll actually hit that speed because there are just so many factors that can slow it down.

    I speed tested on multiple devices and my speed is not an issue right now.

    I suggest you spend time talking with some IT professionals. My max speed is something like 100mb/s. Currently sitting at 38.x during the download right now (which is what? 30k times faster than your max speed?). Sometimes it'll jump up significantly, sometimes it'll drop significantly during the download depending on the current content being downloaded. Complex data takes longer. The ITs would have a better explanation than I can offer.

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    snoozy wrote: »
    why are you paying 62 bucks/month? :open_mouth:
    as for zos treating some of their customers as second class, it's a sad reality and i am mad about it as well. :unamused:

    Because exchange rates and salaries are not 1/1. I'm literally paying the same as an American if they were paying 60usd on matched purchasing power.

    ZOS doesn't give a crap... It's paid fully expensive and it could be cheaper. Other games have it cheaper, zos can do it too.
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    I very much doubt the issue is what you believe it to be.
    If it were, there would be tons of people screaming.
    As it is, you're the only one.
    ZOS hasn't singled you out, dude.

    Have you checked your launcher settings to make sure your download speed isn't capped?



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  • RefLiberty
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    ZonasArch wrote: »

    Why am I being throttled? Because I'm not in the US?

    Bullcrap.

    I'm in EU on 150 Mbps which is 18.75 MB/s and on average I was doing 17.5 MB/s.
    What damn throttling, I bet we were not even downloading from US but from EU data-center server.
    Check you ISP, Torrents running in background, God knows what was throttling you.
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    I work in the Internet sales industry. Just so you know unless you have a business grade DEDICATED connection your speeds are not guaranteed, and you are at the mercy of your provider’s “best effort.”

    Assuming you are in Europe that means you are currently right now in prime time. The reason your download is slow is because your neighbors are also home and you are on the same best effort connection.

    It’s 2 PM eastern standard time. I’m probably pulling 200M+ right now. After 5PM it’s common to see that speed cut in half and I live in Voorhees, NJ which is located near Philly half way in between New York City and Baltimore which is about the fastest place in the world for Internet access.

    ZOS has nothing to do with shared, non-dedicated Internet service.
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    ZonasArch wrote: »
    There are basically innumerable reasons on why your internet speed is not performing to it's maximum capacity. One of the biggest "unknown" reasons is if you have a splitter in your house, it halves your Internet speed. Your ISP could be experiencing issues or overload. Other use in your household. Interference from weather. Etc.

    I'm by no means IT savvy but I know that Internet Max Speed rarely ever means you'll actually hit that speed because there are just so many factors that can slow it down.

    I speed tested on multiple devices and my speed is not an issue right now.

    I suggest you spend time talking with some IT professionals. My max speed is something like 100mb/s. Currently sitting at 38.x during the download right now (which is what? 30k times faster than your max speed?). Sometimes it'll jump up significantly, sometimes it'll drop significantly during the download depending on the current content being downloaded. Complex data takes longer. The ITs would have a better explanation than I can offer.

    But you see... Even at your slower speeds you're still literally going 20 times fast than I could, and almost 200x faster than I am... And that's with your 38mb.s, not the 100. See my point? I get they have heavy loads, but why unlock 38 for you and 0.2 for me when they could, say, unlock 36.5 for you(which would change almost anything) and ubkuck my full speed with would be 8x faster with that 1.5 extra?

    Would it hurt you to download at 36.5 instead of 38? Because that would mean taking half a day instead if 1 week downloading for me.
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    bearbelly wrote: »
    I very much doubt the issue is what you believe it to be.
    If it were, there would be tons of people screaming.
    As it is, you're the only one.
    ZOS hasn't singled you out, dude.

    Have you checked your launcher settings to make sure your download speed isn't capped?



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    Yes, I have it unlimited. Even then... I'm at literally 1/5 of the slowest speed cap...
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    You need to leave the Third World Zonas :p
  • kathandira
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    ZonasArch wrote: »
    kathandira wrote: »
    ZonasArch wrote: »
    Seeing all my friends downloading the game at full freaking speed while I have to see my download throttle to 200KB/s when it can go up to 1.7MB/s...

    That's 1/8 if my top speed, that's already SUPER slow... Why am I being throttled? Because I'm not in the US? Second class consumer? I'm paying 62 bucks a month for this piece of software. Not 15. Take that into consideration and tell me why my downloads are so slow? My launcher has been opened all day and it's just now at 15%!

    I've used speedtest on multiple devices to check my speed and everything is ok on my isp side. On my friends in the US, all is good too, so it's definitely your poopy service that's at fault, ZOS. I'm paying an excruciatingly expensive monthly bill to play this game. What kind of service is this?

    Don't give me "server load" bs because, like I said, all my friends in the US are having it full speed, some even ten times as fast or more than my Max speed, let alone my currently throttled speed.

    This is a shame, it's frustrating and disgusting.

    First of all....1.7mb/s?! That is trash to start with.

    I know right? So why would they throttle if it's already super slow? Just... Why?

    Also, if you're not gonna input with something helpful, go *** on your mom's pillow, not on my things. I didn't ask for your opinion on my bandwidth and you do not know the reality I live in.

    If you wanna pay my bills, I'll let you trash talk my stuff, otherwise, STFU.

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  • Coppes
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    ZonasArch wrote: »
    snoozy wrote: »
    why are you paying 62 bucks/month? :open_mouth:
    as for zos treating some of their customers as second class, it's a sad reality and i am mad about it as well. :unamused:

    Because exchange rates and salaries are not 1/1. I'm literally paying the same as an American if they were paying 60usd on matched purchasing power.

    ZOS doesn't give a crap... It's paid fully expensive and it could be cheaper. Other games have it cheaper, zos can do it too.

    If money is obviously a problem for you why don’t you, yknow, not pay for ESO+..
  • WhitePawPrints
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    ZonasArch wrote: »
    ZonasArch wrote: »
    There are basically innumerable reasons on why your internet speed is not performing to it's maximum capacity. One of the biggest "unknown" reasons is if you have a splitter in your house, it halves your Internet speed. Your ISP could be experiencing issues or overload. Other use in your household. Interference from weather. Etc.

    I'm by no means IT savvy but I know that Internet Max Speed rarely ever means you'll actually hit that speed because there are just so many factors that can slow it down.

    I speed tested on multiple devices and my speed is not an issue right now.

    I suggest you spend time talking with some IT professionals. My max speed is something like 100mb/s. Currently sitting at 38.x during the download right now (which is what? 30k times faster than your max speed?). Sometimes it'll jump up significantly, sometimes it'll drop significantly during the download depending on the current content being downloaded. Complex data takes longer. The ITs would have a better explanation than I can offer.

    But you see... Even at your slower speeds you're still literally going 20 times fast than I could, and almost 200x faster than I am... And that's with your 38mb.s, not the 100. See my point? I get they have heavy loads, but why unlock 38 for you and 0.2 for me when they could, say, unlock 36.5 for you(which would change almost anything) and ubkuck my full speed with would be 8x faster with that 1.5 extra?

    Would it hurt you to download at 36.5 instead of 38? Because that would mean taking half a day instead if 1 week downloading for me.

    I understand you are frustrated. I would be too at that agonizingly slow speed. I would like to know what causes the slowdown, but without having the knowledge of an IT professional, and one that can investigate your specific internet connection, I can only speculate. However, the issue being ZoS is, imo, highly unlikely.

    I hope that you'll get the game downloaded soon. I'm playing offline games while waiting for mine to not slow it down too much.
  • ZonasArch
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    RefLiberty wrote: »
    ZonasArch wrote: »

    Why am I being throttled? Because I'm not in the US?

    Bullcrap.

    I'm in EU on 150 Mbps which is 18.75 MB/s and on average I was doing 17.5 MB/s.
    What damn throttling, I bet we were not even downloading from US but from EU data-center server.
    Check you ISP, Torrents running in background, God knows what was throttling you.

    Nothing. I'm IT savvy, I have tools at my disposal to check these things, I'm alone at home, WiFi off, plugged in cable, and nothing else running on PC. I'm even using my phone for forums. Soeedtest suggests my speed is totally non throttled on isp side, like I said. Glasswire doesn't say there's anything else using data on my PC. No updates, no tiger software, anything.

    Even more so, earlier today, the speed was fine. It downloaded maybe 15gb before it went down and now it's down since.

    Oh and I have no download caps on my isp either.
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    1.7 mbps? Because if its mbps then yea 200 kilobyte download is about right. A lot of people confuse megabytes with megabits. You neeed 8 mbps to get 1MB/s.

    If OP is saying it can go up 1.7MB/s then that means he less than 20mbps and for 64 dollars thats a major rip off.
    Edited by Kalante on February 24, 2020 7:18PM
  • ZonasArch
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    I work in the Internet sales industry. Just so you know unless you have a business grade DEDICATED connection your speeds are not guaranteed, and you are at the mercy of your provider’s “best effort.”

    Assuming you are in Europe that means you are currently right now in prime time. The reason your download is slow is because your neighbors are also home and you are on the same best effort connection.

    It’s 2 PM eastern standard time. I’m probably pulling 200M+ right now. After 5PM it’s common to see that speed cut in half and I live in Voorhees, NJ which is located near Philly half way in between New York City and Baltimore which is about the fastest place in the world for Internet access.

    ZOS has nothing to do with shared, non-dedicated Internet service.

    MY DOWNLOAD SPEED IS NOT SLOW(relatively speaking. It's working at the speed I pay for), MY ESO DOWNLOADING SPEED IS.

    Is it clear now?

    And I'm not in Europe. I'm in Brazil.
    Edited by ZonasArch on February 24, 2020 7:14PM
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    Just going to say your internet speed is in bits not bytes.


    https://www.gbmb.org/mbps-to-mbs

    100 mbps is 12.5 MB/s. Thats at prime with NO ONE on the internet DOING ANYTHING.
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  • ZonasArch
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    fierackas wrote: »
    You need to leave the Third World Zonas :p

    Hahaha brutal. I doooo! Can I move in with you?
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    ZonasArch wrote: »
    Seeing all my friends downloading the game at full freaking speed while I have to see my download throttle to 200KB/s when it can go up to 1.7MB/s...

    That's 1/8 if my top speed, that's already SUPER slow... Why am I being throttled? Because I'm not in the US? Second class consumer? I'm paying 62 bucks a month for this piece of software. Not 15. Take that into consideration and tell me why my downloads are so slow? My launcher has been opened all day and it's just now at 15%!

    I've used speedtest on multiple devices to check my speed and everything is ok on my isp side. On my friends in the US, all is good too, so it's definitely your poopy service that's at fault, ZOS. I'm paying an excruciatingly expensive monthly bill to play this game. What kind of service is this?

    Don't give me "server load" bs because, like I said, all my friends in the US are having it full speed, some even ten times as fast or more than my Max speed, let alone my currently throttled speed.
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    This is a shame, it's frustrating and disgusting.

    trust me, you dont want the update. its awful
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    Kalante wrote: »
    1.7 mbps? Becaue if its mbps then yea 200 kilobyte download is about right. A lot of people confuse megabytes with megabits. You neeed 8 mbps to get 1MB/s.

    No... It's 15mb/s, so 1.7MB/S. Current download speed is at 200KB/s.
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    I live in the US, on the east coast, and I'm having a similar problem- I've been downloading for hours and it's only at 8%. Then again, my game is on steam, and it could be an issue there. But the rest of my internet is fine, and usually my download speed is not this abominable. I'm not really certain whats going on myself, other than that there is incredibly high traffic right now, and while some seem to be downloading quickly, others aren't.

    For example, within the same household, one of us was able to download the game within an hour, while I'm still at a crawl. Again, my download speed is never this bad, so not sure what the issue is.
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  • devaneiosonho
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    If money is obviously a problem for you why don’t you, yknow, not pay for ESO+..

    What the hell? WHY are you trying to change the discussion to this? OP's problems and money have nothing to do with you. How about you stay in topic?

    About the OP's problem: I live in Brazil and haven't had much problem this patch. I'm downloading at more or less 8mb/s and I pay for 10mb/s.
    Edited by devaneiosonho on February 24, 2020 7:28PM
  • ZonasArch
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    ZonasArch wrote: »
    snoozy wrote: »
    why are you paying 62 bucks/month? :open_mouth:
    as for zos treating some of their customers as second class, it's a sad reality and i am mad about it as well. :unamused:

    Because exchange rates and salaries are not 1/1. I'm literally paying the same as an American if they were paying 60usd on matched purchasing power.

    ZOS doesn't give a crap... It's paid fully expensive and it could be cheaper. Other games have it cheaper, zos can do it too.

    If money is obviously a problem for you why don’t you, yknow, not pay for ESO+..

    Not that big of a problem to afford the 60. I don't have better internet available at my address.

    Wouldn't you agree that regardless if salary, 60 dollars monthly would be an abuse? It's not affordability, it's reasonability. If that makes sense.
  • ZonasArch
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    Casterial wrote: »
    Just going to say your internet speed is in bits not bytes.


    https://www.gbmb.org/mbps-to-mbs

    100 mbps is 12.5 MB/s. Thats at prime with NO ONE on the internet DOING ANYTHING.

    Oh ok, so you're at 7x my speed right now, that's 15mbos or 1.7MBps.

    Clear? My download is now at 200KBps. So about 60 slower than your 12.5MBps.

    I hope you understand now. All the rest of my bandwidth is freely available. If I play Netflix in 4k, it goes smoothly, I tested. But after shutting down the movie, speed on launcher doesn't go up.
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    If money is obviously a problem for you why don’t you, yknow, not pay for ESO+..

    What the hell? WHY are you trying to change the discussion to this? OP's problems and money have nothing to do with you. How about you stay in topic?

    About the OP's problem: I live in Brazil and haven't had much problem this patch. I'm downloading at more or less 8mb/s and I pay for 10mb/s.

    Crap. Thanks for the help I guess? Haha guess I'll just have to wait a week.
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