SSD VS HDD

vamp_emily

I'm currently running into an issue where I don't have enough space on my hard drive to install ESO. I have a lot of software on my SSD drive ( besides ESO ) that I need to keep. Stuff like Adobe Creative Cloud application ( Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign ) and a few Microsoft products ( Visual Studio 2008, 2010, 2017, 2019 ).

I have an HDD that has 500gb free storage and wasn't sure if I should put ESO it or uninstall all my other software and keep ESO on the SSD drive and all my other software on the HDD.

Is there much performance differences of having ESO on SSD drive versus having it on a HDD?

Kadoin

Yes, but doubt it matters when patching for downloading. It will only matter for when the patch is applied, but even then I have an HDD and SSD, the HDD can push 200MBps and SSD 480 MBps (actual file operatioons not the crappy benchmarks) and ESO still doesn't patch at anywhere near that speed regardless of how new the CPU is, HDD, SSD, etc.

Conclusion: Doubt it will matter for patching at all. Just use the HDD lol

vamp_emily

Kadoin wrote: »

Yes, but doubt it matters when patching for downloading. It will only matter for when the patch is applied, but even then I have an HDD and SSD, the HDD can push 200MBps and SSD 480 MBps (actual file operatioons not the crappy benchmarks) and ESO still doesn't patch at anywhere near that speed regardless of how new the CPU is, HDD, SSD, etc.

Conclusion: Doubt it will matter for patching at all. Just use the HDD lol

I'm not sure what you really mean about patching. I'm assuming your talking about downloading the game? I'm not worried about the speed the game downloads, i'm more worried about lag and other things that go on while playing the game.

However, If I'm not mistaken ( after looking at your comment ) maybe it doesn't matter which drive it goes on. If an HDD processes at 200 MBps and my internet upload speed is 20 MBps then really there is no benefit of having ESO on my SATA drive.

I really don't want to unstall my other applications unless I really need to.

Nestor

Just to be Pedantic, or something like that.

SATA is a drive interface and controller technology.

HDD is a Platter Drive.

SSD is a Solid State Drive.

Note, you can image or clone your platter drive to an SSD so you can easilly take care of your space issues.

Kadoin

vamp_emily wrote: »

Kadoin wrote: »

Yes, but doubt it matters when patching for downloading. It will only matter for when the patch is applied, but even then I have an HDD and SSD, the HDD can push 200MBps and SSD 480 MBps (actual file operatioons not the crappy benchmarks) and ESO still doesn't patch at anywhere near that speed regardless of how new the CPU is, HDD, SSD, etc.

Conclusion: Doubt it will matter for patching at all. Just use the HDD lol

I'm not sure what you really mean about patching. I'm assuming your talking about downloading the game? I'm not worried about the speed the game downloads, i'm more worried about lag and other things that go on while playing the game.

However, If I'm not mistaken ( after looking at your comment ) maybe it doesn't matter which drive it goes on. If an HDD processes at 200 MBps and my internet upload speed is 20 MBps then really there is no benefit of having ESO on my SATA drive.

I really don't want to unstall my other applications unless I really need to.

Yes, what I mean is that either way it won't make much difference until after the game is fully patched, and even then it may not be noticeable depending on your PC configuration. SSD mostly improves load time on the game, but that's it.

For patching or FPS there is little difference in performance from what I've seen and I have tested it on 10 different PCs.

And like @Nestor wrote, you can move the game files from the HDD to SSD after patching it if you want.

I would just patch it on the HDD.

idk

Asking a question for clarity. Is the SATA drive an HDD or SSD? SATA is merely an interface and works with both types of drives.

Beyond that, an SSD is better. An HDD is a bottleneck in pretty much any HDD as it has not kept up with speed advancements that have occurred in other areas of the computer. I only use HHD for storage. However, you will not experience noticeable improvements in in-game performance between an HDD or SSD.

I do see Nestor made this clarification about SATA while I was typing.

vamp_emily

oops.. I knew I said something wrong

This is what I have:

Storage Drive 1: 250GB Solid State - Samsung 840 EVO
Storage Drive 2: 750GB 7200RPM (SATA 3Gb/s)

Panthermic

idk wrote: »

Asking a question for clarity. Is the SATA drive an HHD or SSD? SATA is merely an interface and works with both types of drives.

Beyond that, an SSD is better. An HHD is a bottleneck in pretty much any HHD as it has not kept up with speed advancements that have occurred in other areas of the computer. I only use HHD for storage. However, you will not experience noticeable improvements in in-game performance between an HHD or SSD.

HHD is something new?
I guess you mean HDD.

Donny_Vito

Why do you need so many versions of VS? The newest version has all the old .Net frameworks in it so projects written in an older IDE will still work in VS 2019, Community or Professional editions.

TheFM

I have a hybrid =P works great. Next one will be ssd tho.

vamp_emily

Donny_Vito wrote: »

Why do you need so many versions of VS? The newest version has all the old .Net frameworks in it so projects written in an older IDE will still work in VS 2019, Community or Professional editions.

I've never tried to compile older apps in VS2019. I just remember a while back I deleted VS 2005 off my machine and came across an issue. Since then, I never delete VS.

Thanks for pointing that out, I'm going to open up a VS 2003 app and see if it compiles with no errors.

update:
I think I will keep my versions of Visual Studio. Some of the projects are not ready to be upgraded. I did receive a warning message when I opened an ASP.Net app. Microsofts website says "A newer version of Visual Studio might not support certain projects at all, or it might require that you update a project so that it's no longer backwards-compatible."

JanTanhide

This should answer your question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dEsTiOeMQ4

The short answer is no significant gaming difference.

Pyr0xyrecuprotite

From personal experience, having the game installed on SSD vs HDD gives you a HUGE performance boost, most noticeably when rezoning, or whenever new stuff has to be loaded from disk. You really should try to ensure that your ESO is played from a SSD drive. I don't know if it's possible to initially download it somehow to your HDD and then "move" the files/folder to your other drive. It may be simpler to delete/uninstall the old copy of ESO first, to see if that gives you enough free space.