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Best PC Specs for PVP?

JiDul
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What do y'all think is the best PC specs to have to get more than 15fps in Cyrodiil?
I am currently running:

CPU: I7-8900k @ 3.7Ghz
GPU: GTX 1070 SC 8GB
Ram: 16GB DDR4 3200

I am running with medium texture settings, medium sub-sampling, low water reflection, low shadow detail, Grass off, 1920x1080p resolution. I get 70FPS when running around but getting into any combat even just a 1v1 i drop to 15fps...

I am thinking of upgrading to a RTX2080 and 32GB of 3666 DDR4 Ram. Do you guys think this will help? Or do you think that no matter what I get nothing will help due to how the game works?
  • JumpmanLane
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    JiDul wrote: »
    What do y'all think is the best PC specs to have to get more than 15fps in Cyrodiil?
    I am currently running:

    CPU: I7-8900k @ 3.7Ghz
    GPU: GTX 1070 SC 8GB
    Ram: 16GB DDR4 3200

    I am running with medium texture settings, medium sub-sampling, low water reflection, low shadow detail, Grass off, 1920x1080p resolution. I get 70FPS when running around but getting into any combat even just a 1v1 i drop to 15fps...

    I am thinking of upgrading to a RTX2080 and 32GB of 3666 DDR4 Ram. Do you guys think this will help? Or do you think that no matter what I get nothing will help due to how the game works?

    What’s your draw distance because you’re specs are well above what’s recommended.

    I run an i7, Gtx 1650 Oc 4gb, and 32 gb of ram and have my draw distance at 34, (like 1/4 of the way over). I get a steady 60fps unless a huge Zerg happens by. (My monitor is 60hrz). It was the same when I ran 16gb if ram.

    Incidentally, @Alcast has a GREAT great video on YouTube about settings.
    Edited by JumpmanLane on February 23, 2020 12:56AM
  • albertberku
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    There has to be a huge problem somewhere. I am using Radeon 580, 8gb ram and a far worse cpu with high settings at 1080p and fps almost never drops in cyrodiil regardless of how many players on the screen. Either pc (gpu) cooling or draw distance or some other setting. GTX 1070 should give you 40 fps at least at high settings with 50 other players on the screen.
    Edited by albertberku on February 23, 2020 1:11AM
  • oddbasket
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    They haven't invented the PC that let's you pvp at high fps and lag free in Cyrodiil.
  • Casul
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    im using a laptop currently

    i7 5500U @2.40GHz
    8Gigs Ram
    Nvidia Geforce 840m

    I play at 720p, subsampling and texture quality high with everything else either off or set to the lowest value. I manage to maintain 55+ framerate everywhere i go. So it surprises me that people with dedicated PCs have frame issues. Maybe its the draw distance as that has the biggest performance impact from my personal experience.
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  • Lord_Wrath
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    JiDul wrote: »
    Or do you think that no matter what I get nothing will help due to how the game works?

    I have just about the same setup. Its the game, not you. Theoretically theres no reason our good systems cant handle things, its all the internet, server and your region. This is why some people claim to have no issues, while many others do.
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  • Alcast
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    I did a lot of research and testing about this topic. In ESO two things matter:

    CPU frequency = the higher the better (this is the most important thing)
    RAM frequency = the higher the better (second most important thing)

    3200-3600 MHZ ram is very cheap these days and you should always get at least 16GB of it, 32GB even better.

    About your Graphics Card.
    You could plug a potato into the PC and the game would run. ESO is really not GPU heavy, UNLESS you run the game in 4k. When running the game in 4K you can actually get more FPS, the game transfers some tasks to the GPU instead of it being handled by the CPU so it could increase your performance (yes, sounds dumb, is dumb but it works lmao).

    For my setup I have an i9-9900k at 4.7Ghz with 32GB RAM at 4000 MHZ
    My full specs are here https://alcasthq.com/alcast-pc-specs/https://alcasthq.com/alcast-pc-specs/

    For your spec @JiDul increasing the frequency (aka overclocking) of your CPU will give you a good boost (Overclocking is risky and should only be done if you have experience). Your RAM is fine (though 32GB never hurts). And if you change out your GPU that will also help big time, but a 2080 is gonna cost you a fortune.

    However, before you throw money out the window....there are some other tricks you can try

    Performance Tips
    You could try to do the performance optimization tricks that will help gain you more fps > https://alcasthq.com/eso-increase-performance-guide/

    Turning down your View Distance and Maximum Particle Systems and Particle Suppression Distance usually also helps big time. View distance is the BIGGEST fps killer in the game. The tricks in the guide take care of that automatically.

    Also make sure to turn off all other *** programs in the background such as chrome, discord etc if you have fps troubles. That stuff also drains lots of your FPS.

    So in summary, players that usually have *** fps have:
    • too many addons active (yes addons drain FPS like crazy)
    • too many background programs running (chrome, discord, etc)
    • set the view distance too high

    @JumpmanLane thanks for the tag
    Edited by Alcast on February 23, 2020 10:28AM
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  • JumpmanLane
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    Alcast wrote: »
    I did a lot of research and testing about this topic. In ESO two things matter:

    CPU frequency = the higher the better (this is the most important thing)
    RAM frequency = the higher the better (second most important thing)

    3200-3600 MHZ ram is very cheap these days and you should always get at least 16GB of it, 32GB even better.

    About your Graphics Card.
    You could plug a potato into the PC and the game would run. ESO is really not GPU heavy, UNLESS you run the game in 4k. When running the game in 4K you can actually get more FPS, the game transfers some tasks to the GPU instead of it being handled by the CPU so it could increase your performance (yes, sounds dumb, is dumb but it works lmao).

    For my setup I have an i9-9900k at 4.7Ghz with 32GB RAM at 4000 MHZ
    My full specs are here https://alcasthq.com/alcast-pc-specs/https://alcasthq.com/alcast-pc-specs/

    For your spec @JiDul increasing the frequency (aka overclocking) of your CPU will give you a good boost (Overclocking is risky and should only be done if you have experience). Your RAM is fine (though 32GB never hurts). And if you change out your GPU that will also help big time, but a 2080 is gonna cost you a fortune.

    However, before you throw money out the window....there are some other tricks you can try

    Performance Tips
    You could try to do the performance optimization tricks that will help gain you more fps > https://alcasthq.com/eso-increase-performance-guide/

    Turning down your View Distance and Maximum Particle Systems and Particle Suppression Distance usually also helps big time. View distance is the BIGGEST fps killer in the game. The tricks in the guide take care of that automatically.

    Also make sure to turn off all other *** programs in the background such as chrome, discord etc if you have fps troubles. That stuff also drains lots of your FPS.

    So in summary, players that usually have *** fps have:
    • too many addons active (yes addons drain FPS like crazy)
    • too many background programs running (chrome, discord, etc)
    • set the view distance too high

    @JumpmanLane thanks for the tag

    You're welcome. Thanks for all you do :)
  • albertberku
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    @Alcast can having better CPU improve lag in cyrodiil, too or it is not related? Sometimes i get into fights where my opponent seems to have less lag during rush hours. I wonder if it is just better connection, better cpu or just plain luck.
  • Alcast
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    @Alcast can having better CPU improve lag in cyrodiil, too or it is not related? Sometimes i get into fights where my opponent seems to have less lag during rush hours. I wonder if it is just better connection, better cpu or just plain luck.

    You can't really do anything about the lag or desyncs. The fault here is the *** ESO megaserver which can't handle the load. It also depends over how many nodes you connect to the server. So you always want to jump over as little nodes as possible to get to the ESO megaserver.

    And also, what you see on your CLIENT side doesn't mean the SERVER side sees it the same way, so that is why you might seem to think other people have "less lag".

    The game just turns into a huge mess when too much stuff has to be processed.

    Edited by Alcast on February 23, 2020 2:18PM
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  • dennissomb16_ESO
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    I have been running a i5 8600k with 16GB 3000 mhz ram and an older GTX 970 video card. I recently upgraded my card to a 2070 super and truthfully I got 0 improvement in FPS. PVE, Dungeons, and Cyrodiil all remained the exact same fps as with the 970, possibly around a 3 fps improvement (leaving my graphics settings exactly the same)
  • JiDul
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    Alcast wrote: »
    I did a lot of research and testing about this topic. In ESO two things matter:

    CPU frequency = the higher the better (this is the most important thing)
    RAM frequency = the higher the better (second most important thing)

    3200-3600 MHZ ram is very cheap these days and you should always get at least 16GB of it, 32GB even better.

    About your Graphics Card.
    You could plug a potato into the PC and the game would run. ESO is really not GPU heavy, UNLESS you run the game in 4k. When running the game in 4K you can actually get more FPS, the game transfers some tasks to the GPU instead of it being handled by the CPU so it could increase your performance (yes, sounds dumb, is dumb but it works lmao).

    For my setup I have an i9-9900k at 4.7Ghz with 32GB RAM at 4000 MHZ
    My full specs are here https://alcasthq.com/alcast-pc-specs/https://alcasthq.com/alcast-pc-specs/

    For your spec @JiDul increasing the frequency (aka overclocking) of your CPU will give you a good boost (Overclocking is risky and should only be done if you have experience). Your RAM is fine (though 32GB never hurts). And if you change out your GPU that will also help big time, but a 2080 is gonna cost you a fortune.

    However, before you throw money out the window....there are some other tricks you can try

    Performance Tips
    You could try to do the performance optimization tricks that will help gain you more fps > https://alcasthq.com/eso-increase-performance-guide/

    Turning down your View Distance and Maximum Particle Systems and Particle Suppression Distance usually also helps big time. View distance is the BIGGEST fps killer in the game. The tricks in the guide take care of that automatically.

    Also make sure to turn off all other *** programs in the background such as chrome, discord etc if you have fps troubles. That stuff also drains lots of your FPS.

    So in summary, players that usually have *** fps have:
    • too many addons active (yes addons drain FPS like crazy)
    • too many background programs running (chrome, discord, etc)
    • set the view distance too high

    @JumpmanLane thanks for the tag

    (Off topic) WOW! @Alcast commented on my post! Kinda like having a celebrity respond to you! lol. SO COOLLLL!
    (On topic) Thank you for your tips and tricks. I will definitely try them out and see what I can do to improve. I just see all these streamers with good FPS able to take on several people at one time with little to no FPS loss and i'm like there shouldn't be anything wrong I have a good setup but when I do similar things its usually dropping my frames so low I cant respond fast enough.
  • MaGicBush
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    Well you definitely do not need Alcasts PC to run this game lol. I run it just fine on my mediocre PC at 100fps most of the time. It does dip down to 65ish when a lot of players are around in Cyrodiil. I would try what Alcast suggested though, and see if it helps because your PC should run it just fine.

    I have an I5-7600k @ 3.8ghz CPU
    RX 480 8gb GPU
    16gb RAM
    SSD

    I only use 3 addons, and play on high settings(not ultra just high).
    Edited by MaGicBush on February 23, 2020 11:45PM
  • TheFM
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    Alcast wrote: »
    I did a lot of research and testing about this topic. In ESO two things matter:

    CPU frequency = the higher the better (this is the most important thing)
    RAM frequency = the higher the better (second most important thing)

    3200-3600 MHZ ram is very cheap these days and you should always get at least 16GB of it, 32GB even better.

    About your Graphics Card.
    You could plug a potato into the PC and the game would run. ESO is really not GPU heavy, UNLESS you run the game in 4k. When running the game in 4K you can actually get more FPS, the game transfers some tasks to the GPU instead of it being handled by the CPU so it could increase your performance (yes, sounds dumb, is dumb but it works lmao).

    For my setup I have an i9-9900k at 4.7Ghz with 32GB RAM at 4000 MHZ
    My full specs are here https://alcasthq.com/alcast-pc-specs/https://alcasthq.com/alcast-pc-specs/

    For your spec @JiDul increasing the frequency (aka overclocking) of your CPU will give you a good boost (Overclocking is risky and should only be done if you have experience). Your RAM is fine (though 32GB never hurts). And if you change out your GPU that will also help big time, but a 2080 is gonna cost you a fortune.

    However, before you throw money out the window....there are some other tricks you can try

    Performance Tips
    You could try to do the performance optimization tricks that will help gain you more fps > https://alcasthq.com/eso-increase-performance-guide/

    Turning down your View Distance and Maximum Particle Systems and Particle Suppression Distance usually also helps big time. View distance is the BIGGEST fps killer in the game. The tricks in the guide take care of that automatically.

    Also make sure to turn off all other *** programs in the background such as chrome, discord etc if you have fps troubles. That stuff also drains lots of your FPS.

    So in summary, players that usually have *** fps have:
    • too many addons active (yes addons drain FPS like crazy)
    • too many background programs running (chrome, discord, etc)
    • set the view distance too high

    @JumpmanLane thanks for the tag

    You should not need a 9900 k in order to play this game. thats insane.
  • RD065
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    32 ram is also overkill.
  • TheFM
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    RD065 wrote: »
    32 ram is also overkill.

    Yeah people saying you need top of the line hardware for this game .... I dont even know. You can literally play any game under the sun with weaker hardware and have less issues than this game.
  • JumpmanLane
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    As an aside. I just got fiber optic cable and it SHOULDN’T make any difference; but, the difference in response time is noticeable...so much so I thought my controller (which I use playing pc) was suffering from stick drift (which happens over time). However, it wasn’t.

    My room went noticeably faster. Skills fired off quicker, so much so that I had to do some dummy work to keep my timing right.

    Went to Cyro, crashed at my capped FPS with 93 ping lol. I ported back and forth, back and forth between set and brk. Yay Cyro!
    Edited by JumpmanLane on February 24, 2020 2:36AM
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