Can we get a stacked weapon damage set (preferably not minor slayer set) in this year's expansions?

Hooded_1

I've noticed a lot of different stamina DPS sets out there that are very useful in PvE content that have a nice big juicy Weapon Crit bonus as their 5-piece set. While all of these sets do synergise well with raid buffs, it's starting to lose some creativity in my opinion. Out of these sets you've got Advancing Yokeda at the very top (total crit bonus-wise) with a stacking bonus of 2k crit bonus as the 5-piece. Following that you have the latest and greatest Dragonguard Elite set which is very useful, but only in VERY SPECIFIC situations. Following that you have the flat crit bonus set, which is great to use if you don't have a vMA bow or Master bow on your backbar, which is your Leviathan set from Crypt of Hearts. At the bottom of this list is Tzogvin's Warband, with a measly 1290 crit bonus as the five piece, but with a boost of minor force (doesn't stack with things like the barbed trap skill and channeled acceleration skill though) to make up for that low number. What i'm seeing here when I look at all these crit options is a lack of creativity for the group PvE side of things for sets.

It would be awesome to have a stacking weapon damage bonus set that's useful on the front bar for PvE DPS. Now obviously there's Warrior's Fury, but that is more of a PvP set / solo tank set since it relies off of taking damage to get those stacks, rather than dealing damage. I also am aware of New Moon Acolyte being a potential set to use here, but this set is less useful compared to what I am proposing because that nice big juicy weapon damage bonus falls off as soon as you swap to your back bar. What I would like to see is something along the lines of this:

2-piece: 1096 max stamina
3-piece: 833 weapon critical
4-piece: 833 weapon critical
5-piece: When you deal direct damage, gain a stack of (some buff name) for 6 seconds, increasing your weapon damage by 100. This can stack up to 5 times.

It's essentially an Advancing Yokeda but for weapon damage. It would be cool if there was a perfected version of this set you could get as well, maybe with a weapon damage bonus as the extra stat line.

Now I know what you're thinking: BUT WHAT ABOUT PVP BALANCE?? That's why I chose a total weapon damage bonus of 500, since it's pretty much in line with the meta weapon/spell damage bonuses you'll see out of commonly used pvp sets (NMA being 498, Fury being 600). If it ends up being too strong in a PvP environment, you could potentially increase the time it takes to build up to 500 weapon damage (say for example having 10 stacks of 50 weapon damage instead of 5 stacks of 100 weapon damage) to encourage PvPers to go for more immediate weapon damage set combos, like for example running NMA on your front bar, so that when you're ready to burst down your target you quickly swap to your front bar and dunk them with your combo, as opposed to swapping to your front bar to build up weapon damage THEN dunking.

I do however think that the 6 second buff uptime is imperative, and should not be touched, as lots of DPS rotations sit right in that sweet spot of having the uptime for 6 seconds when they're on their backbar.

Hooded_1

Mainly I want this set for a Bow/Bow build in vHRC HM, because you don't want to pop synergies (no Lokkestiiz) and because I already get minor force from Channeled Acceleration and Barbed Trap, so Tzogvin's is useless. And I cant consistently sit in front/flanking the boss for Dragonguard. So yeah, there's selfish reasons for me to propose this as well.

Guyle

Flanking Strategist

Royaji

I might have a simpler solution for you. Learn the synergy icons.

tsaescishoeshiner

500 Weapon Damage itself probably wouldn't be enough. Fully-stacked Siroria offers 600 Spell Damage; Scathing Mage gives you 516 when it procs.

They did this with the Dro'zakar set, it's just very very niche. It gives you 125 Weapon Damage per bleed effect you place on the target. For bleed effects, you have Twin Slashes, Cleave, dual wield axe passive, & 2H axe passive. That's 500 Weapon Damage IF you have all 4 bleed effects up. And requires you to use DW/2H

Wardens can hit 625 now that Throw Chicken causes a bleed effect ... if the target is farther than 7 meters AND off-balance. The item sets that cause bleeds aren't high enough DPS, I think

So to your point, even if that set isn't balanced well, I hope that they try to make more sets that offer a big Weapon Damage payout for a weird build.

I want one that's like Siroria except that the AoE spawns NEXT to you instead of beneath you, so you have to shuffle around to get the weapon damage bonus lol. Sounds fun

YandereGirlfriend

I like the suggestion, OP!

I would be seriously slacking though if I didn't say that MAGICKA characters first need their own version of AY, Tzogvin, Fury, etc. before we start adding even more awesome sets to Stamina.

Hooded_1

Yeah, i'd agree with that. Magicka DPS is seriously lacking in crit options... All they really have is MS and that's it. Perhaps we can get an expansion that adds both!

To Royaji: I'd love to use Lokkestiiz Bow/Bow build but the way my raid lead is gonna run it (keep in mind we're a lower-mid tier raid guild) is that he's gonna have all of us unbind our syngeries key. Which is why Lokk wont work. I know, I know, L2P yada yada. But it is what it is

Hooded_1

Also Flanking Strategist has the same issues as NMA... The bonus falls off when you swap to your back bar, and also falls off the odd time when you happen to be in front of the boss

Hooded_1

AND I am aware of Dro'zakar's Claws, but it requires you to yes use a very niche build that gets completely thrown out the window if you're trying to go for Bow/Bow, or if you're using a master/vMA back bow. Along with that, you only get temporary uptime on all those bleeds, so the effective weapon damage you're getting out of Drozakar is a lower than 500. I don't know by exactly how much, since I haven't done a lot of testing on it, but something that gives you a guaranteed uptime of 500 or so weapon damage instead of an inconsistent uptime. Drozakar has good potential burst potential through a sustained fight, but not as good as sustained high weapon damage.

TheFM

Before we get any heavy hitting stamina sets anymore we need more heavy hitting magicka sets. As of lately its been mostly just utility sets. The bias towards stam needs to be halted.

Runefang

Hooded_1 wrote: »

Yeah, i'd agree with that. Magicka DPS is seriously lacking in crit options... All they really have is MS and that's it. Perhaps we can get an expansion that adds both!

To Royaji: I'd love to use Lokkestiiz Bow/Bow build but the way my raid lead is gonna run it (keep in mind we're a lower-mid tier raid guild) is that he's gonna have all of us unbind our syngeries key. Which is why Lokk wont work. I know, I know, L2P yada yada. But it is what it is

Btw that’d crazy. Your dps and sustain will be utter shite without a synergy.

But you can have your set so long as it requires you stand in a tiny circle and not move.