Managing stuff takes 80% of game time!

Sergg007

I am using all add-ons, it helps a little but does not solve the problem. I do not play the game, I shift things!
I don’t know what to do with it, sometimes I just want to delete everything, but then I will delete the game. What do you think, how to handle? :'((((

Royaji

Someone said they want to buy ESO+ sub?

Iskiab

It’s an artificially created problem they designed to encourage ESO plus. Even with ESO plus you’ll eventually have some issues.

30 year old MMOs had a better inventory system.

Sergykid

manage better what u need and what u don't, monitor frequency and value against if stackable or not. Have one or two characters as banks for items that u rarely need, so u don't log into them often.

AhPook_Is_Here

I solved the problem by only picking up gold and weapons and armor i will use. Same with gathering, just take the stuff out of the node you want.

Artemiisia

Brandathorbel

if you have no interest in crafting just sell everything. Find what the best crafting items to sell at guild traders and buy a chest or two and put in your house. Do a regular daily dump of those things into the chest and when you hit a stack sell them.

for the smaller stuff just sell.

ZonasArch

I don't normally run ESO plus, I do 14 writs a day, run dungeons and what have you... Managing inventory isn't as bad as you make it sound. My guess is going between you being a hoarder and being disorganized.

To fix the first, you wanna learn to let go. Not using it? Sell. Decon. Destroy. Hard grind? Then you keep it, but make sure it's not something you "may one day, eventually, in the future, who knows" gonna use. Otherwise you're back to hoarding.

To fix the second, I recommend inventory insight,
And advanced filters. The two will give you full power over inventory, with search bar and everything. Easier to know what is where, that way you can set criterias for your home storages, bank, and toons, and never lose anything again.

Doing those things, inventory management won't be bothersome at all. I hope you can do it!

wsmith97ub17_ESO

I could and did store many thousands of items in eve online with their 2003 tech.

Yes its artificial and very annoying.

DragonRacer

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

I solved the problem by only picking up gold and weapons and armor i will use. Same with gathering, just take the stuff out of the node you want.

So that's why I thought I was getting ancestor silk, but only got worms. :P

DMuehlhausen

Yeah there isn't an issue if you only pick up what you need and are a sub.

You don't need every set in every weight and trait.

Danikat

My advice, genuinely, is to rethink how you're organising stuff and what you could do to make it easier. I've caught myself implementing systems which in theory are useful and organised but actually take too much time to be worth doing, and changing those makes a huge difference.

For example at one point I was keeping all gold and purple rarity crafting materials in a chest in my house, on the basis that they're rarer and more valuable so I wanted to keep them safe. Which is fine in theory but even with Advanced Filters there's no way to sort by material rarity, so I was having to scroll through my crafter's inventory to pick them out after each round of deconstructing gear, which isn't quick. It's also pretty pointless because upgrading items is a completely separate menu so it's not like I'm going to use them by accident. So I stopped doing that.

I've also recently stopped saving dropped consumables. I'd spend a few weeks/months dumping them into the bank or hanging onto them in inventories then have a massive sort-out where I tried to share them evenly between my characters, giving everyone the best items for them from what was available. It took ages, it was never quite right and it's pretty pointless when my crafter can make better stuff anyway. I was only doing it because I felt like I should be using this stuff instead of selling or deleting it and crafting more.

You might not be spending time on the same sorts of items but I bet there's still things you could be doing to make it easier for yourself.

AlnilamE

Without knowing more details on what you are looting/keeping, it's a bit hard to offer advice.

I am a hoarder, but some days, I do have the urge to just decon everything my characters aren't actually wearing.

It also helps if all your characters have the deconstruction passives, so you don't have to shift gear around.

And all the storage boxes for the must-haves.

redlink1979

Sergg007 wrote: »

I am using all add-ons, it helps a little but does not solve the problem. I do not play the game, I shift things!
I don’t know what to do with it, sometimes I just want to delete everything, but then I will delete the game. What do you think, how to handle? :'((((

Not sure what type of stuff you keep but I advise you to sell and/or deconstruct everything you don't need, don't use or that you think you *might* use some day. (I just keep item's sets in good traits to use or sell, "rare/low ratio drop" item sets in bad traits that I will transmute when I have enough crystals, motif pages/furnishing/furniture to sell/surveys to pickup)

If you don't sub, try to create the maximum number of chars allowed and use them as mules for the stuff you really need and will use eventually.
Besides that, you can create a guild - you will be needing 10 members in order to unlock/use the 500 slots of the bank.

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

just take the stuff out of the node you want.

So you're that type of player that doesn't allow the node/chest to respawn.....

Canasta

redlink1979 wrote: »

Sergg007 wrote: »

I am using all add-ons, it helps a little but does not solve the problem. I do not play the game, I shift things!
I don’t know what to do with it, sometimes I just want to delete everything, but then I will delete the game. What do you think, how to handle? :'((((

Not sure what type of stuff you keep but I advise you to sell and/or deconstruct everything you don't need, don't use or that you think you *might* use some day. (I just keep item's sets in good traits to use or sell, "rare/low ratio drop" item sets in bad traits that I will transmute when I have enough crystals, motif pages/furnishing/furniture to sell/surveys to pickup)

If you don't sub, try to create the maximum number of chars allowed and use them as mules for the stuff you really need and will use eventually.
Besides that, you can create a guild - you will be needing 10 members in order to unlock/use the 500 slots of the bank.

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

just take the stuff out of the node you want.

So you're that type of player that doesn't allow the node/chest to respawn.....

Why would you want a chest to respawn after you take the valuable set item out of it?

If it respawns then someone else gets a chance at another item of that set, leading to more items of that set in circulation.

And that will lead to devaluing your item from that set.

Its dog eat dog in the field of chest opening PVP, every chest I leave with a rubbish item in it frustrates my "enemies"

Brandathorbel

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

I solved the problem by only picking up gold and weapons and armor i will use. Same with gathering, just take the stuff out of the node you want.

fyi, don't do that, people hate people that do that. Its rude and just a crappy thing to do

Tigerseye

My advice would be to ignore most of the above advice (because you probably do it, anyway).

Buy ESO+ if you can - but, then, if you're still having problems (and you will), keep on petitioning ZOS for more space.

It's ridiculous that you can sub, buy Crowns and still get told, by some people, that you should be jumping through hoops and making endless mules, just to store your relatively modest amount of stuff.

Or that you're a "hoarder".

alainjbrennanb16_ESO

welcome to an mmo

myskyrim26

Sergg007 wrote: »

I am using all add-ons, it helps a little but does not solve the problem. I do not play the game, I shift things!
I don’t know what to do with it, sometimes I just want to delete everything, but then I will delete the game. What do you think, how to handle? :'((((

What exactly are you shifting? I had the inventory problem, but now I solved it completely. If you describe a little more, maybe we could help with some advices...

CompM4s

Deconstruct everything for mats

Anotherone773

Iskiab wrote: »

It’s an artificially created problem they designed to encourage ESO plus. Even with ESO plus you’ll eventually have some issues.

30 year old MMOs had a better inventory system.

And a mandatory subscription. For just 50 cents a day, less than the price of a cup of coffee, you can free a herd of inventory mules from their burden.

Leiloni

Iskiab wrote: »

It’s an artificially created problem they designed to encourage ESO plus. Even with ESO plus you’ll eventually have some issues.

30 year old MMOs had a better inventory system.

That's actually not true. We had this inventory and bank system when the game was first released and it was a P2P game. Crafting bag didn't even come out until I think over a year after ESO+ was introduced. The system was just always a burden to manage, and they finally got smart and came up with the crafting bag (which is something that WoW and GW2 have in other ways anyway so they probably got the ideas form those).

Donny_Vito

If you're on PC, you can just use add-ons that ZoS didn't develop to fix issues that ZoS did develop.

Coppes

Leiloni wrote: »

Iskiab wrote: »

It’s an artificially created problem they designed to encourage ESO plus. Even with ESO plus you’ll eventually have some issues.

30 year old MMOs had a better inventory system.

That's actually not true. We had this inventory and bank system when the game was first released and it was a P2P game. Crafting bag didn't even come out until I think over a year after ESO+ was introduced. The system was just always a burden to manage, and they finally got smart and came up with the crafting bag (which is something that WoW and GW2 have in other ways anyway so they probably got the ideas form those).

That doesn’t mean it wasn’t created to get people to buy ESO+. The lack up bank space upgrades AFTER ESO+ was created shows this.

Pyr0xyrecuprotite

To be fair, the inventory issue is a standard problem in the preceding single-player Elder Scrolls games too. As an adventurer, you are constantly going out exploring and looting stuff, but then having to come back to base to sell stuff, use it for crafting, or try to store it somewhere. This is classic RPG stuff. ESO was actually rather kind to players in allowing most materials to stack (i.e. using only a single slot) and not have any carry weight. Anyone remember picking up another item in Skyrim, and then being unable to move?

That said, the craft bags in ESO+ (and double bag space) are definitely a marketing incentive to try get players to subscribe. You can play without ESO+, but will either have to constantly make hard choices about what to keep, or make full use of alternative storage strategies like:

• use merchant and banker assistants often, to clear bag space a bit while in the wild (pay gold to another player if you don't have the crowns)
• multiple mule (storage) toons
• maxed bank and bag space
• storage boxes in your houses
• multiple houses just to store furniture items
• creating a dummy guild just to get the guild bank storage space
• extra accounts, etc.

Anotherone773

Tigerseye wrote: »

My advice would be to ignore most of the above advice (because you probably do it, anyway).

Buy ESO+ if you can - but, then, if you're still having problems (and you will), keep on petitioning ZOS for more space.

It's ridiculous that you can sub, buy Crowns and still get told, by some people, that you should be jumping through hoops and making endless mules, just to store your relatively modest amount of stuff.

Or that you're a "hoarder".

As someone who "hoards" in video games ( I hoard items to sell in 3 trade guilds), i can 100% absolutely assure you that if you:
* Have ESO plus
* Have Fully upgraded Bank and inventory
* Have all the storage containers
* Need a dedicated guild bank or a mule
* Use a house for furniture storage( if applicable)
and STILL have inventory management problems, then you have a hoarding problem. You dont NEED 18 sets of gear for every character in case " that one gets good later" or whatever weird reasoning for holding on to gear for months or years and never using.


I do think they should allow us to up our inventory limits with crowns but they want to make sure their is a reason to get ESO plus and anyone who has ESO plus will tell you that the craft bag is primary reason to get it, even though the craft bag, DLCS, etc are actually the perks of buying the 1650 crowns on a monthly sub.

AlnilamE

redlink1979 wrote: »

So you're that type of player that doesn't allow the node/chest to respawn.....

Chests and nodes respawn regardless of whether everything was taken or not.

JamilaRaj

Sergg007 wrote: »

I am using all add-ons, it helps a little but does not solve the problem. I do not play the game, I shift things!
I don’t know what to do with it, sometimes I just want to delete everything, but then I will delete the game. What do you think, how to handle? :'((((

Delete the game.
See, you could throw away garbage, as many have suggested, instead of shifting it around to keep it, but that is "let them eat brioche" advice, because throwing garbage away is just as time consuming and you would only replace one chore with another.

Leiloni wrote: »

Iskiab wrote: »

It’s an artificially created problem they designed to encourage ESO plus. Even with ESO plus you’ll eventually have some issues.

30 year old MMOs had a better inventory system.

That's actually not true. We had this inventory and bank system when the game was first released and it was a P2P game. Crafting bag didn't even come out until I think over a year after ESO+ was introduced. The system was just always a burden to manage, and they finally got smart and came up with the crafting bag (which is something that WoW and GW2 have in other ways anyway so they probably got the ideas form those).

Actually, that is also not true. Precisely the moment they released crafting bag they turned what was, if we are to give them benefit of the doubt and write it off as oversight, not foresight, a problem, into an artificial problem, because they chose to monetize rather than fix it.
And the problem is increasingly more severe as they add more and more clutter in each update.

jircris11

Iskiab wrote: »

It’s an artificially created problem they designed to encourage ESO plus. Even with ESO plus you’ll eventually have some issues.

30 year old MMOs had a better inventory system.

Dude just about any mmo has this issue, even wow

Giraffon

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

I solved the problem by only picking up gold and weapons and armor i will use. Same with gathering, just take the stuff out of the node you want.

No. Don't do that. It's rude. Take it all from nodes. The node won't reset until it's emptied. It's super rude. Don't do it.

oxygen_thief

i dont have any problems with my inventory. i use dustman its an inventory management addon it automatically sells everything i dont need and destroys junk