Stamina night blade build?

l.saladinb16_ESO

Hi guys.I'm new i was wondering if there is a stamina nightblade pvp build using dual daggers? I can't found any. Only 2H builds. I'm not a RP player but a "rogue" with a 2 handed sword or axe or mace is kinda ugly.

Thanks

sproattt

Dual wield is completely underperforming this patch unless you got BRP DW to make up for it. Master axes suck due to bleed NERF via resists countering them. May find a build with deadly set or the other set that gives 33% increase in dot damage.

Stamnlade 2h/bow onslaught is best right now.

NMA/spriggan or NMA/shield breaker or truth tailor it with Bloodspawn or if you can deal with low sustain then run Balorgh and become the Blade that we used to feel like.

25K + Pen + 6K WD + 50% Crit is nice but the tankiness and mitigation in ESO is still outweighing those stats.

Change to StamNecro like I should and you'll be as powerful as Jan Michael Vincent on Skooma.

sproattt

@OP, my post is 100% PvP related.

l.saladinb16_ESO

sproattt wrote: »

Dual wield is completely underperforming this patch unless you got BRP DW to make up for it. Master axes suck due to bleed NERF via resists countering them. May find a build with deadly set or the other set that gives 33% increase in dot damage.

Stamnlade 2h/bow onslaught is best right now.

NMA/spriggan or NMA/shield breaker or truth tailor it with Bloodspawn or if you can deal with low sustain then run Balorgh and become the Blade that we used to feel like.

25K + Pen + 6K WD + 50% Crit is nice but the tankiness and mitigation in ESO is still outweighing those stats.

Change to StamNecro like I should and you'll be as powerful as Jan Michael Vincent on Skooma.

Thanks for the fast answer bro even if i dont really understand a word except dual wielding is trash xD As i said i'm new to the game (lv 10ish) just trying to figure out what are the optimal builds to get an idea for late game.
Thanks mate!

Unfadingsilence

l.saladinb16_ESO wrote: »

sproattt wrote: »

Dual wield is completely underperforming this patch unless you got BRP DW to make up for it. Master axes suck due to bleed NERF via resists countering them. May find a build with deadly set or the other set that gives 33% increase in dot damage.

Stamnlade 2h/bow onslaught is best right now.

NMA/spriggan or NMA/shield breaker or truth tailor it with Bloodspawn or if you can deal with low sustain then run Balorgh and become the Blade that we used to feel like.

25K + Pen + 6K WD + 50% Crit is nice but the tankiness and mitigation in ESO is still outweighing those stats.

Change to StamNecro like I should and you'll be as powerful as Jan Michael Vincent on Skooma.

Thanks for the fast answer bro even if i dont really understand a word except dual wielding is trash xD As i said i'm new to the game (lv 10ish) just trying to figure out what are the optimal builds to get an idea for late game.
Thanks mate!

Game always changes what's meta right now wont be in a month or so but after that it's always up in the air. Then there are the different fundamentals of PVE and PVP and in PVE u will run dual wield and bow especially if you're trying to play end game but pvp 2h and bow is strongest and been like that for a few years

l.saladinb16_ESO

Unfadingsilence wrote: »

l.saladinb16_ESO wrote: »

sproattt wrote: »

Dual wield is completely underperforming this patch unless you got BRP DW to make up for it. Master axes suck due to bleed NERF via resists countering them. May find a build with deadly set or the other set that gives 33% increase in dot damage.

Stamnlade 2h/bow onslaught is best right now.

NMA/spriggan or NMA/shield breaker or truth tailor it with Bloodspawn or if you can deal with low sustain then run Balorgh and become the Blade that we used to feel like.

25K + Pen + 6K WD + 50% Crit is nice but the tankiness and mitigation in ESO is still outweighing those stats.

Change to StamNecro like I should and you'll be as powerful as Jan Michael Vincent on Skooma.

Thanks for the fast answer bro even if i dont really understand a word except dual wielding is trash xD As i said i'm new to the game (lv 10ish) just trying to figure out what are the optimal builds to get an idea for late game.
Thanks mate!

Game always changes what's meta right now wont be in a month or so but after that it's always up in the air. Then there are the different fundamentals of PVE and PVP and in PVE u will run dual wield and bow especially if you're trying to play end game but pvp 2h and bow is strongest and been like that for a few years

Hi sorry for only answering now.

You said the meta changes month to month then you said 2h and bow are the strongest for years so it doesnt really change.
i dont understand the point of making ton of weapons if there is always a meta. I know it's the same on any MMO but ESO devs talk a lot about "build your character the way you want" it seems they lied.
Anyways thanks for the answer

SpiderCultist

you can build your character the way you want, another matter is if it will perform optimally

for dw / bow there are quite a few of videos / builds around that might inspire you, just adapt them your playstyle

Iskiab

For pvp almost all NBs run 2H because of the rally heal. Running DW and not having a burst heal would be rough.

ThePedge

Iskiab wrote: »

For pvp almost all NBs run 2H because of the rally heal. Running DW and not having a burst heal would be rough.

That being said, the heal from Scatter Shot isn't terrible.

But I do agree, the only person I've seen do DW well (recently) is Decimus but I'm not a fan of the Meditate playstyle. Plus it's an expensive build to make so miss me 😂

Dual Wield has a strong execute because it's un-dodgeable, and I like it is a very offensive skill kit. But 2H utility is too strong, can't afford not the run it in most builds.

l.saladinb16_ESO

Ok guys thank you so much . I think i'll just be a sheep meta slave and run 2h and hope they'll balance DW in pvp

Iskiab

l.saladinb16_ESO wrote: »

Ok guys thank you so much . I think i'll just be a sheep meta slave and run 2h and hope they'll balance DW in pvp

DW is balanced in one sense that it’s output is similar to 2H, but self healing is too important to run it. There’s also 2H-DW builds that are great, they’re moreso a brawler playstyle so I don’t think they fit NBs well.

Being a DW stamblade would make stamblade as weak as a magblade imo.

Luede

l.saladinb16_ESO wrote: »

Ok guys thank you so much . I think i'll just be a sheep meta slave and run 2h and hope they'll balance DW in pvp

other classes work with dw/bow. u could try a stamina sorc. very fast playstyle and a lot of fun.

but with dw a miss my 2h ultimate . DW ult is trash

JinxxND

You can def make DW work because we have an "Okay" spammable in surprise attack but the strengths of DW rn lie in quick cloak usually paired with BRP dw for the major protection that actually goes well with this new nb tank class identity and whirling blades which is one of the best executes in the game, outside of these 2 skills though DW does suck but if you can find a way to use one or both of those skills it's decent.

I'm running DW rn with bow and it's not bad but you def have to look at what the class offers and just find ways to synergies the passives and strengths of the class to make what you want work. Soul Harvest/Incap gives DW a burst option even though it kinda sucks now cause the cast times and the lack of defile on incap but will be a better offensive ult then the DW ult or you could simple use dawnbreaker which has always been a solid ult and better then Incap cause it's not dodgeable.

nublife01

the meta will stay the same next patch. it has been the same for a while tbh. all of these posts above me have been kekw af except iskiab knows things. you want nma(frontbar 2h nirnhorned maul)/spriggan/bloodspawn/infused wep damage masterbow backbar (shieldbreaker is hot garbage never ever ever use that set) with all infused/wep damage jewelery 2 heavy 5 medium. on your 2h bar run surprise attack execute spectral bow rally and for your flex spot id say ambush or camo hunter depending on if youre going against ranged or melee though honestly ambush is nice for people trying to run and heal or for hopping from person to person to kite people and for your ulti id run either dawnbreaker of smiting or onslaught depending on how good you are with tactician though dawnbreaker/spectral bow'ing scrubs who dont know that spectral bow is coming after is like a great delete button. on your back bar poison inject or the other morph honestly whichever you like best shadowy disguise vigor siphon strikes and for your flex spot either the shadow image or shuffle whatever tickles your fancy and for your ulti temporal guard ofc. as for race id go nord or woodelf depending on if you want to be fast af or more tanky. this is the best possible build you can run this patch and it is still very 1vx capable despite our class being in the crapper lately. anyone tells you any differently is a srubby nub nub and you shouldnt listen to them. and don't spec for any more regen than the build offers (i mean maybe if you go nord but still you dont really need it) and get used to utilizing siphoning strikes (the one half decent ability stamblade actually has).

l.saladinb16_ESO

@nublife01 Thanks bro it's fine the others also helped me by explaining me thats dw isn't reallt optimal.
Thanks for the detailed guide i think i'll just follow what your wrote. Thought orc was the best race for stam builds.

Iskiab

l.saladinb16_ESO wrote: »

@nublife01 Thanks bro it's fine the others also helped me by explaining me thats dw isn't reallt optimal.
Thanks for the detailed guide i think i'll just follow what your wrote. Thought orc was the best race for stam builds.

I think orc is moreso pve. Woodelf for dodge rolly builds, Nord makes playing medium armour feel like heavy.

Think of it like nord lets you skip a defense set, and wood elf lets you skip a sustain set.

nublife01

l.saladinb16_ESO wrote: »

@nublife01 Thanks bro it's fine the others also helped me by explaining me thats dw isn't reallt optimal.
Thanks for the detailed guide i think i'll just follow what your wrote. Thought orc was the best race for stam builds.

nah you really want wood elf right now but if you can deal with the lesser amount of stam regen then go nord. and no there are no other sets to use only those 4. we're just nerfed enough that you simply wont put out the damage to kill a good player without them and we are too confined by our defensive passive triggered by surprise attack to mess around with dizzy swing. like they really need to buff dark cloak its ridiculous. at most you'd either mess with your stamina/life pool values with nord or convert one wep damage jewelry to stam regen but honestly you really dont want to touch anything because you need all of that wep damage. the speed increase from woodelf is very nice for 1vx and evading damage if you can kite properly on stamblade but if you can figure out how to work in that 3k resistance on nord into the mix it may be better i personally havent tested it out yet however. just get used to weaving in heavy attacks for sustain and youre solid.

sproattt

The games so bad it's not even worth playing. Great class identity that we asked for...

You wanna play Nightblade? Don't do it. OVERNERF is all I can say. Games performance is abysmal, unable to change factions each month from one alliance to the other without paying absurd fees to abandon and enter campaigns in different alliances, I have given up. PvP is a mass frenzy of group play, zerg play and dizzy swing/jab spam spam over and over and over.

Plars - jab spam, snare uptime 100%, aoe heal 100%.

Stan ward\dk\necro - Dizzy spammers and once they hit that off balance stun - onslaught/leap then exe and it's over for Nightblade.

Games in its worst state it's ever been and I just saw they want £54.99 for the DLC when the games not even working properly or any fix in sight, haven't purchased DLC since Summerset and I don't intend on ever buying more from this scandalous company.


TLDR - Games a complete mess and cancelled my + years ago and won't touch this overpriced ask.

l.saladinb16_ESO

sproattt wrote: »

The games so bad it's not even worth playing. Great class identity that we asked for...

You wanna play Nightblade? Don't do it. OVERNERF is all I can say. Games performance is abysmal, unable to change factions each month from one alliance to the other without paying absurd fees to abandon and enter campaigns in different alliances, I have given up. PvP is a mass frenzy of group play, zerg play and dizzy swing/jab spam spam over and over and over.

Plars - jab spam, snare uptime 100%, aoe heal 100%.

Stan ward\dk\necro - Dizzy spammers and once they hit that off balance stun - onslaught/leap then exe and it's over for Nightblade.

Games in its worst state it's ever been and I just saw they want £54.99 for the DLC when the games not even working properly or any fix in sight, haven't purchased DLC since Summerset and I don't intend on ever buying more from this scandalous company.


TLDR - Games a complete mess and cancelled my + years ago and won't touch this overpriced ask.

Sad lol so zenimax is struggling to balance classes and gives them an identity? They should really focus on classes balance in pvp

MBBOWOLVERINE

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