Does unsubscribing from ESO+ make Stuga stop showing up?

FrancisCrawford
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People often observe that, if they didn't have ESO+, they might be spared some DLC dungeons in the random dungeon finder. But that's not a problem for everyone; many of us don't do random dungeons, at least not on max level characters who might be sent to DLCs.

But it also occurs to me -- the intrusive quest attackers, like Stuga, in many cases are tied to chapters and DLCs as well. So not having access to them might keep one from being plagued by quests there's no quest-log room to accept.

Obviously, if ZoS increased the size of quest logs for ESO+ subscribers, this would be a stupid discussion. But absent that, wouldn't unsubscribing from ESO+ actually make the game in some ways more pleasant??
Edited by FrancisCrawford on February 7, 2020 11:01AM
  • virtus753
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    *contemplates being unwanted by Stuga*
  • Ragnork
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    Talking from experience.

    No.

    If only the blade of woe would work on her....

    I have heard many say "just take her quest and not do it" - but the quest log limit stops me doing that.
    Edited by Ragnork on February 7, 2020 8:36AM
  • Thokri
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    I just do intro on all characters to shut her and kinda forget about orsinium after that.
    Edited by Thokri on February 7, 2020 8:36AM
  • Siohwenoeht
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    How do folks stand having their quest logs full? I never have more than 5 active, not counting crafting dailies and usually have them finished before logging off, except of course if I don't want to do wrothgar right away. Just take the quest from Stuga.
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  • Hippie4927
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    If you take the quest and Stuga goes away and then abandon the quest, does she come back?
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  • Thokri
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    Hippie4927 wrote: »
    If you take the quest and Stuga goes away and then abandon the quest, does she come back?

    If you don't complete intro part , I think so.

    What I noticed that after you do first "ambush" part go to orsinium and abandon it, no more stuga!
  • mikikatze
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    Yepp, first quest until new "main" quest giver, then just abandon that one.

    Also, some Quests are so long that I cannot finish them in a day or two due to limited game time...
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    In grhatwood the guy who is supposed to be way up north who has observed your movements and is in need of your particular talents is showing up just south of the wayshrine in the capital city even though he is supposed to be way north of there waiting for you when you come buy to find the jewler to remove the curse from the necklace


    clearly eso has designed these people to stress you out and be annoying as possible.
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  • Lady_Linux
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    How do folks stand having their quest logs full? I never have more than 5 active, not counting crafting dailies and usually have them finished before logging off, except of course if I don't want to do wrothgar right away. Just take the quest from Stuga.

    i think you may have add if you are allowing yourself to complete every quest thrust upon you to completion... it's annoying to have so many distractions
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  • Integral1900
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    (Bangs head on table out of general disbelief)

    Step one
    Accept quest

    Step two
    Ignore quest, just let it sit there... who the hell ever filled the WHOLE quest list!!!!!!

    Step three
    No more interruptions

    Sigh....


    Edited by Integral1900 on February 7, 2020 9:41AM
  • Anska
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    Oh, don't kill the messenger ... or contemplate killing the messenger. She is just a hard working npc.

    In any case, I much rather put up with Stuga and Corporal "Hold! I was sent for you!" Bredrek (who even follows you down into the ritual chamber of the Mages Guild) than having to pluck my quest starts from the interface.
  • votan73
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    Accept the quest, go to Orsinium. Complete the quest. Done. 3 minutes. Less then writing this thread.
  • bearbelly
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    Anska wrote: »
    Oh, don't kill the messenger ... or contemplate killing the messenger. She is just a hard working npc.

    In any case, I much rather put up with Stuga and Corporal "Hold! I was sent for you!" Bredrek (who even follows you down into the ritual chamber of the Mages Guild) than having to pluck my quest starts from the interface.

    Yeah, but that Cpl. Bredrek quest is very easy to get out of the way.

    I ignored him forever, until one day I just decided to see what was so pressing that he would follow me all the way into the Mages Guild, so I accepted his quest.
    It all takes place right there in Riften, and takes fives minutes to do, and it's easy. And you can safely ignore that particular quest-line after you complete that one quest without being harrassed further. So I've just started doing it on my characters that go into Riften.
    (Although now that I think about it, does the questline remain in your quest log if you simply say goodbye to the General when you "turn-in" the Bredrek quest to her instead of accepting?)
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    Hippie4927 wrote: »
    If you take the quest and Stuga goes away and then abandon the quest, does she come back?

    Oh yes. I've experienced this many times as I've changed my trade-off between quest-log-capacity and freedom-from-Stuga.
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    People often observe that, if they didn't have ESO+, they might be spared some DLC dungeons in the random dungeon finder. But that's not a problem for everyone; many of us don't do random dungeons, at least not on max level characters who might be sent to DLCs.

    But it also occurs to me -- the intrusive quest attackers, like Stuga, in any cases are tied to chapters and DLCs as well. So not having access to them might keep one from being plagued by quests there's no quest-log room to accept.

    Obviously, if ZoS increased the size of quest logs for ESO+ subscribers, this would be a stupid discussion. But absent that, wouldn't unsubscribing from ESO+ actually make the game in some ways more pleasant??

    I wouldn't try that, if I were you: those who did have misteriously disappeared, leaving behind a note with the words: "she found me"
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    votan73 wrote: »
    Accept the quest, go to Orsinium. Complete the quest. Done. 3 minutes. Less then writing this thread.

    1. I have 18 characters.
    2. Stuga is just one example. I find the Murkmire quest giver almost as annoying.
    Edited by FrancisCrawford on February 7, 2020 10:13AM
  • redlink1979
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    votan73 wrote: »
    Accept the quest, go to Orsinium. Complete the quest. Done. 3 minutes. Less then writing this thread.

    This ^
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  • Anska
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    The Murkmire NPC don't annoy me at all. They don't follow me around while I am trying to pick locks and pockets. o:)

    Seriously though, my only issue with Stuga and similar quest-givers is, that I like questing. I don't just want to start a quest only to make the NPC go away. So it would be great, if she had a simple "I don't have time for you right now. Please wait in the tavern." dialogue option. It might be nicer for her as well.
    Edited by Anska on February 7, 2020 12:06PM
  • Tandor
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    It's always been said that a full quest list can impact on performance, including loading screens. There is absolutely no good reason to take on more quests than you can sensibly deal with at one time.

    What I suspect people are doing is automatically accepting all quests from silent quest-givers as they pass them by, so they don't forget they're there later, and then complaining about the noisy quest-givers they're ignoring when they pass them by. There seems to me to be an easy answer to that, just reverse the approach.
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    @FrancisCrawford Yeah, I understand that sounds like a huge effort. Just do it one day by day, and it will feel like good getting rid of it more and more.
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    How do folks stand having their quest logs full? I never have more than 5 active, not counting crafting dailies and usually have them finished before logging off, except of course if I don't want to do wrothgar right away. Just take the quest from Stuga.


    I didn't know there was a limit


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    Tandor wrote: »
    It's always been said that a full quest list can impact on performance, including loading screens.

    They fixed that issue a couple years ago.

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  • worrallj
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    (Bangs head on table out of general disbelief)

    Step one
    Accept quest

    Step two
    Ignore quest, just let it sit there... who the hell ever filled the WHOLE quest list!!!!!!

    Step three
    No more interruptions

    Sigh....


    *Facepalms in disbelief*

    Some of us don't like a bunch of inactive quests sitting in our journal and making a mess of our quest pins. Besides I want to do orsinium when I get to it, and not start it as a chore just so I can walk through town without being accosted.

    The starting areas are just a mess with a dozen dlc quest markers shouting at you trying to make you jump ahead in the story. If you are a power leveler min/maxer type that probably doesn't bug you, but many of us are looking for just a touch more immersion/ambiance.
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    (Bangs head on table out of general disbelief)

    Step one
    Accept quest

    Step two
    Ignore quest, just let it sit there... who the hell ever filled the WHOLE quest list!!!!!!

    Step three
    No more interruptions

    Sigh....


    Can't do that. While a quest is in the list it must be completed and not left sitting there mocking you. I'd almost, that is almost, rather be assaulted by Stalker Stuga than see an unfinished quest in my log.
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    Stuga is like taxes, do the quest or you will get a visit.
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    (Bangs head on table out of general disbelief)

    Step one
    Accept quest

    Step two
    Ignore quest, just let it sit there... who the hell ever filled the WHOLE quest list!!!!!!

    Step three
    No more interruptions

    Sigh....


    People who used this method 25 times filled their WHOLE quest log. I don't think I've had less than 16 active quests on any given character after about level 10.
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    xWarbrain wrote: »
    (Bangs head on table out of general disbelief)

    Step one
    Accept quest

    Step two
    Ignore quest, just let it sit there... who the hell ever filled the WHOLE quest list!!!!!!

    Step three
    No more interruptions

    Sigh....


    People who used this method 25 times filled their WHOLE quest log. I don't think I've had less than 16 active quests on any given character after about level 10.

    Get the Tamriel Hero or whichever title you get after doing 1000 quests, and your log won't be as full Besides some repeatable ones, I do not have any quests on my main guy. They've all been completed.
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    Lady_Linux wrote: »
    How do folks stand having their quest logs full? I never have more than 5 active, not counting crafting dailies and usually have them finished before logging off, except of course if I don't want to do wrothgar right away. Just take the quest from Stuga.

    i think you may have add if you are allowing yourself to complete every quest thrust upon you to completion... it's annoying to have so many distractions

    Lol, possibly. Generally I only take the quests I want to though, and tune out the questgivers that I don't want to deal with atm.

    In fact my wife would say I excel at "selective hearing". 😉
    Edited by Siohwenoeht on February 7, 2020 3:16PM
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  • FrancisCrawford
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    Tandor wrote: »
    It's always been said that a full quest list can impact on performance, including loading screens. There is absolutely no good reason to take on more quests than you can sensibly deal with at one time.

    What I suspect people are doing is automatically accepting all quests from silent quest-givers as they pass them by, so they don't forget they're there later, and then complaining about the noisy quest-givers they're ignoring when they pass them by. There seems to me to be an easy answer to that, just reverse the approach.

    Umm, no. My quest log might include, among others:
    • 3 pledges, saved from days that the pledge was a dungeon I actually wanted to do.
    • 1 Bogrul quest.
    • 7 crafting writs (I like to do crafting writs two days at a time).
    • A few incomplete Cyrodiil quests (the practicality and desirability of finishing Cyrodiil quests has a lot to do with the state of the war at the moment).
    • A couple of Fedex after-delve quests I haven't bothered turning in yet.
    • A few silence-the-quest-giver selections, if I have room for them.

    That can be 20 of 25 right there, or even more.
    Edited by FrancisCrawford on February 7, 2020 6:35PM
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