Suggestion - new Flame Lash

Linus04

Hi,

moving post here from PTS forum...

I have a suggestion regarding Flame Lash and new Off balance changes in Update 25:

Flame Lash
Skill description:
Lash an enemy with flame, dealing X Flame Damage. While slotted, applying burning effect to enemy gain two stacks of NewBuffName for 8 seconds, each stack increase your Magicka Recovery by 75 (or 100?).
NewBuffName changes Flame Lash into Power Lash, allowing you to lash an enemy at half cost to deal X Flame Damage and heal you for X Health over 2 seconds. Using Power Lash consume one stack of NewBuffName. This effect can occur once every 8 seconds.

What do you guys think? Numbers could be change. It gives you two Power Lash each 8 seconds and also allows you to choose between casting it or keep the stacks for little bit of magicka recovery. But most important, we can get rid of that Off balance functionality and Flame Lash can be balanced on their own.

relentless_turnip

Linus04 wrote: »

Hi,

moving post here from PTS forum...

I have a suggestion regarding Flame Lash and new Off balance changes in Update 25:

Flame Lash
Skill description:
Lash an enemy with flame, dealing X Flame Damage. While slotted, applying burning effect to enemy gain two stacks of NewBuffName for 8 seconds, each stack increase your Magicka Recovery by 75 (or 100?).
NewBuffName changes Flame Lash into Power Lash, allowing you to lash an enemy at half cost to deal X Flame Damage and heal you for X Health over 2 seconds. Using Power Lash consume one stack of NewBuffName. This effect can occur once every 8 seconds.

What do you guys think? Numbers could be change. It gives you two Power Lash each 8 seconds and also allows you to choose between casting it or keep the stacks for little bit of magicka recovery. But most important, we can get rid of that Off balance functionality and Flame Lash can be balanced on their own.

I think the 2nd part is basically what exists on live and definitely needs to happen or else it would be a dead skill.
The first part I don't know if a person would say it was a little OP maybe not though...
You won'r be killing more people with it.
I main a magDK and have actually always been a little torn between the two morphs. Until our DOTs got killed.
Now my MagDK is a complete burst/pressure build.
I think if you said while slotted gain a 50% chance to apply burning with flame abilities.

I think combustion nearly works as a recovery passive, but it isn't quite there...

Linus04

Well, I would keep Power Lash as it is, same damage and same heal, but we need new way to get Power Lash proc, especialy with new Off balance. I believe this could be good solution.

- With Molten Whip morph, Ardent Flames skills give Seething Fury , which increase Molten Whip damage + give you spell damage for each stack you have.
- With Flame Lash morph, applying burning effect will now gives stacks of new buff which give you Power Lash proc + give you magicka recovery for each stack you have.

Its a similiar functions, but one morph is for pure damage, second give you some utility.

Zer0_CooL

Aply burning status?! Thats pretty much *** useless. Since you have only flame damage on your magDK and burning embers is already a granted burning statuseffect.

An other stack ***? Thx but no thx. Molten whip is rediculous enough. Spaming dots to proc your spamable...

Just give it a damage bonus of 150% against enemys below 20%HP.

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Linus04

Zer0_CooL wrote: »

Aply burning status?! Thats pretty much *** useless. Since you have only flame damage on your magDK and burning embers is already a granted burning statuseffect.

Then there is no problem, right? It's guaranteed that you will have Power Lash each X seconds.

Zer0_CooL wrote: »

An other stack ***? Thx but no thx. Molten whip is rediculous enough. Spaming dots to proc your spamable...

Flame Lash is spamable and can be used anytime. Power Lash just give you a little bit more damage and heal, which should have some cooldown.

Zer0_CooL

Zer0_CooL wrote: »

An other stack ***? Thx but no thx. Molten whip is rediculous enough. Spaming dots to proc your spamable...

Flame Lash is spamable and can be used anytime. Power Lash just give you a little bit more damage and heal, which should have some cooldown.
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You mean like the cooldown on the heal of puncturing sweep? Or the extra damage of the AS passives?

Linus04

Zer0_CooL wrote: »

You mean like the cooldown on the heal of puncturing sweep? Or the extra damage of the AS passives?

Heal from one Puncturing Sweep is much smaller than heal from one Power Lash. But that's not what I wanted to talk about... Numbers and cooldown could be balanced, but we need to change the way we get Power Lash proc in the first place and I thing this could be good alternative.

Zer0_CooL

Linus04 wrote: »

What do you guys think?

As i already sayd, i regard this stack and proc [snip] as absolute pointles. Sure power lash needs a change after the latest changes to off balance. But in my opinion, your suggestion defenitly not the way to go.

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Linus04

Making spammable skill morph execute is much more pointles. Seething Fury is good mechanic, but should be only 2 stack, each fo 50% damage increase.

Flame Lash is not bad skill at all, it just need change now. Generating stacks that proc Power Lash would suit it well.