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Need support/utility Build Ideas for Necro, DK, and NB

AmoralOne
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Recently I have wrapped up my Templar - Healer, Sorc - Negate Tank, and my Warden - Perma builds.

I am look for group utility/support ideas for the other three classes!

Would be awesome if someone had one in mind!
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  • brandonv516
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    Group utility for NB? Hmm, not much but still some:

    Skills
    AoE Minor Vulnerability - Teleport Strike
    AoE Major Expedition - Path
    AoE Stun - Fear

    Ultimates
    AoE Major Vitality - Soul Siphon
    AoE Major Protection - Consuming Darkness
  • Iskiab
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    NB don’t fit well for group utility in pvp. Magnecro does though.

    I haven’t made one but their toolkit looks awesome for magtanking support. Aoe major breach, physical armour debuff, aoe fear circles, colossus, major defile with blastbones, immobilizations with maim, lots of synergies to give.

    Magblades are more consumers of support and magnecros the supporters. I want to make one but ran out of character slots, maybe I’ll delete a toon, IDK.

    Some of the abilities look expensive so I was thinking desert rose and shacklebreaker with all the points into health.
    Edited by Iskiab on February 6, 2020 4:10PM
    Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
    Havoc Warhammer - Alair
    LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
    PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
    Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten
  • AmoralOne
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    Group utility for NB? Hmm, not much but still some:

    Skills
    AoE Minor Vulnerability - Teleport Strike
    AoE Major Expedition - Path
    AoE Stun - Fear

    Ultimates
    AoE Major Vitality - Soul Siphon
    AoE Major Protection - Consuming Darkness

    What about something like this for a set up:

    Pulsar (Minor Mangle), Teleport Strike (Minor Vulnerability), Mark Target (Major Fracture), Shadow Imagine (Minor Maim), Fear (CC), Soul Harvest (Major Defile)

    Then back bar you can have escapes, heals, anything else that you can think supportive, but you would live on the front bar?
    Also some sets that add debuffs that are not already being applied?

    Im not the one doing the damage, just making it really easy for the others in my groups to do it.
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  • AmoralOne
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    Iskiab wrote: »
    NB don’t fit well for group utility in pvp. Magnecro does though.
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    Check my other reply to the other person, see what you think about that!
    PC NA - EP's Greatest Support
  • Iskiab
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    Group utility for NB? Hmm, not much but still some:

    Skills
    AoE Minor Vulnerability - Teleport Strike
    AoE Major Expedition - Path
    AoE Stun - Fear

    Ultimates
    AoE Major Vitality - Soul Siphon
    AoE Major Protection - Consuming Darkness

    What about something like this for a set up:

    Pulsar (Minor Mangle), Teleport Strike (Minor Vulnerability), Mark Target (Major Fracture), Shadow Imagine (Minor Maim), Fear (CC), Soul Harvest (Major Defile)

    Then back bar you can have escapes, heals, anything else that you can think supportive, but you would live on the front bar?
    Also some sets that add debuffs that are not already being applied?

    Im not the one doing the damage, just making it really easy for the others in my groups to do it.

    Most of those are single target abilities so wouldn’t work well. In general single target support abilities aren’t good with the exception of elemental drain, and even then warden and Necro have aoes with breach and Templar has an aoe magic steal.

    Magnecro can do all of those and more as aoes.

    Magblade is more dueling, ganking and aoe damage dealers.
    Edited by Iskiab on February 6, 2020 4:49PM
    Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
    Havoc Warhammer - Alair
    LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
    PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
    Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten
  • Udrath
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    For magblade in no-cp try out troll king / wizard riposte / pariah / or lich back bar and will power front or potentates depending your playstyle
    5-1-1

    Front bar: structured entropy, merciless, funnel health, fear, shadowy disguise. Ultimate: any aoe or soul assault

    Back bar: cripple, blur, mutagen, siphon strikes, refreshing path. Ultimate: barrier or resto staff ultimate

    You can do damage and still support your team just keep refreshing path up on them. Pretty much all hots. Use stealth or refreshing path to keep major resolve up every 5 seconds.

    Food: sugar skulls
    Mundas: whichever you prefer
    Race: altmer, dunmer, Breton or nord

    Edited by Udrath on February 6, 2020 6:09PM
  • AmoralOne
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    Iskiab wrote: »
    Group utility for NB? Hmm, not much but still some:

    Magnecro can do all of those and more as aoes.
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    Can you tell me what you would run set wise and skills for the necro?

    Also what would you do with a DK support wise? I have no idea how to make it useful in PvP.
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  • Iskiab
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    Iskiab wrote: »
    Group utility for NB? Hmm, not much but still some:

    Magnecro can do all of those and more as aoes.
    .

    Can you tell me what you would run set wise and skills for the necro?

    Also what would you do with a DK support wise? I have no idea how to make it useful in PvP.

    Idk, maybe focus on the talons that do minor maim, the weapon/spell damage major buff for the group and the breath to increases fire damage taken.

    Most support is just about giving lots of synergies and spreading buffs and debuffs. So shifting standard, immobilization with maim, stuff like that. I’d even look at orbs.

    PvP pure support are pvp tanks in a sense, spread defile and reducing opponent’s damage. As a DK or Necro you could also try guard.

    I haven’t played this playstyle in ESO, I primarily heal or run solo in Cyro so I’m not sure what’s best. For sets:

    Desert Rose - to help with sustain, plus it procs off guard damage so if you use guard it’s a no brainer
    Set that does minor defile - I forgot the name, but defile tanks are handy
    Mending - reduce enemy weapon/spell damage
    Daring Corsair - then focus on Ult gen for sustain (especially on a DK) so you can have good shifting standard uptime.

    I would also stick with the classic 1 defensive, 1 sustain and 1 support set. Use attribute points to redistribute your stats so you have a decent health and other stat pools. Make sure you have lots of sustain too since a lot of the good abilities are expensive. Think tank using good support and healing abilities that if you’re ignored you can punish your opponents.

    One thing that’s important to consider for cyro, cleanse is very popular amongst ball group healers. You want to focus on ground or aoe debuffs that refresh quickly. If it’s a long lasting debuff that you cast once it’ll be pretty useless.

    So like elemental drain chance of lasting the full duration? Zero.
    Shifting standard major defile? Awesome since it moves with you and refreshes itself. Same with blastbones, casting it every 4 seconds will have really good defile uptime.
    Edited by Iskiab on February 6, 2020 6:51PM
    Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
    Havoc Warhammer - Alair
    LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
    PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
    Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten
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