Vampire skin fix

mystkldrgnb14_ESO

This is a mechanical issue -

Not a lore one. Not a looks one. Not a personal preference issue. Not a game-play impacting one (because it doesn't and wouldn't). All the rest are strawman arguments, IMO that don't really apply.

If a game is going to charge real life money (Crown Store) for cosmetic skin enhancements (i.e. tattoos), then it is just *bad business* and *stupid business* to also have a gameplay mechanic (Vampirism Skill Line) force a 24/7 cosmetic feature on someone's avatar that then NEGATES the effects of the item they spent the IRL money to acquire.

Period.

Tatoos, other skin effects that cost additional $$ to have - ALL should show on TOP of whatever Skin-effect Vampire 'should' have. So you can still have white-as-death fugly vampire look if that's what you, or the game, or the lore says you should be. Whatever. Irrelevant. Because the tattoos would be on TOP of that skin.

If the tattoos/skins were given out in game with achievements - for free - not the same issue.

Once they started charging additional money to sell tattoos - then the rules change. The priority SHOULD change - to place priority on the IRL money spent for that look, above cosmetic looks they attached to a gameplay skill line. (Because that's all the vampire skin is - a cosmetic - that affects nothing at all gameplay wise.)

Or they should be allowing monetary refunds for people who can no longer use the items they purchased as intended.

I'm all about "you chose to be a vampire - the look is part of it" up until the line of "Here's cosmetic stuff for extra money!" Especially since, unlike WW, its not a temporary skin effect for the power boost that then drops off. Its a 24/7 'if you want the actual best benefit from this skill, you must have the worsening skin." Thereby forcing perma-desperate vampire mode on players just to have a benefit from the skill line itself.

Because no, actually, all players don't "just know this." There's no warning in the skill line that the vampire skin doesn't work with other cosmetics and will just cover them up entirely. I played for an entire year before getting vampirism and had NO IDEA that tattoos just didn't show up at all with the skin. Not every player is a lore, game, or forum junkie. I'm more active in forums than most - and I still didn't know they just didn't show *at all*.

It makes no logical or business sense to attach the 'benefit' and entire purpose of the game mechanic (vampire skill line) to a 24/7 skin 'punishment' that otherwise has no actual effect in game - and then place that over and above the IRL money a player spent their looks.

I mean really - think about this? What business sense does it make to basically LOCK OUT entire swaths of your player population from wanting to spend more money on your game - just because they get the best stats from an ugly, BROKEN, skin effect? Broken because by no logic do skin layers work this way - in any other game or in real life or in any lore anywhere. And broken because the skin effect has NO detriment in the MMO, no matter what the lore says its suppose to do.

"You should look like a vampire so everyone can tell!" Why? Players literally do not care if you are or not - its not like vampire hunting is a PVP activity or anything. And not a single NPC reacts at all.

So no - this is such a stupid, circular, argument everyone gets in every time this comes up when none of that is even relevant to the actual reality of the situation.

Maybe the rework WILL make it have actual purpose. Or maybe they'll fix it to work the way it should - make you arse ugly, or vamp beautiful don't care - go ahead, but make the tattoos work on top of the damn skin.

Would certainly make them more money. And also stop leaving a bad taste in player's mouths about this entire vampire skin thing.

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starkerealm

T08145 wrote: »

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Since when is vampirism about what you want?

Welcome to ESO, where Vampirism is a potential build element. This is not a single player game where your decisions only affect you and your experiences. Here, your decision to be a vampire (or werewolf) can be an asset (or liability) to the players you're playing with.

Vampire can be a very valuable tool in your arsenal. At that point, the cosmetic discussion becomes very relevant.

That's a direct contradiction, the gameplay / build relevance of it has nothing to do with your visuals. No one in your group cares or even ever notices what your character looks like.

No, you care what you look like. There's a reason the game is sometimes called Fashion Scrolls. Effectiveness in combat, and fashion are two separate goals. Asking a player to pick between them is a bit dirty, and somewhat short sighted, given how many options there are to customize your character.

Sephyr

starkerealm wrote: »

T08145 wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

T08145 wrote: »

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Since when is vampirism about what you want?

Welcome to ESO, where Vampirism is a potential build element. This is not a single player game where your decisions only affect you and your experiences. Here, your decision to be a vampire (or werewolf) can be an asset (or liability) to the players you're playing with.

Vampire can be a very valuable tool in your arsenal. At that point, the cosmetic discussion becomes very relevant.

That's a direct contradiction, the gameplay / build relevance of it has nothing to do with your visuals. No one in your group cares or even ever notices what your character looks like.

No, you care what you look like. There's a reason the game is sometimes called Fashion Scrolls. Effectiveness in combat, and fashion are two separate goals. Asking a player to pick between them is a bit dirty, and somewhat short sighted, given how many options there are to customize your character.

This whole post entirely. The fact that the tattoos fade is annoying too. I bought them from the crown store, they should be visible at all times. Not half on, half off. The body doesn't work like that.