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"Official Warning" for "spamming"
MeinChurro
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Apparently I jsut got an official warning for "spamming" chat. I go to look at what exactly I posted and it was 6 messages within the time span of 10 minutes of me calling for a world boss, while running a group of people who needed more. But because I, as the group leader, call for more for the group. I get reported by players who can't for the life of them simply click "ignore". Spamming would have been me, putting several messages in chat over and over and over, back to back. If you wanna call this spamming, GM's, does this mean when I start reporting players for calling for world bosses just as much, or more than me, you are going to also give them an official warning? I sure hope so.
I don't even know how to appeal this trash. If you want to get me to fully stop playing this game I will. I will stop paying for your overpriced garbage, my eso plus, and the collector's editions of your expansions. I'm sure you all make enough from players spending 100 dollars on houses, 40 dollars on mounts, and hundreds to thousands of dollars on your lootboxes, so that doesn't matter.
I don't even know how to appeal this trash. If you want to get me to fully stop playing this game I will. I will stop paying for your overpriced garbage, my eso plus, and the collector's editions of your expansions. I'm sure you all make enough from players spending 100 dollars on houses, 40 dollars on mounts, and hundreds to thousands of dollars on your lootboxes, so that doesn't matter.
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Edaphon✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭MeinChurro wrote: »If you want to get me to fully stop playing this game I will.
Good riddance, spambot.
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kargen27✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'm confused. Should I be asking if I can have all your stuff?
That aside I'm with you that asking for more for a world boss shouldn't be spamming chat unless you are doing them just a couple of seconds apart.and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."3 -
MeinChurro✭✭✭
It's just a warning - not a ban. I am more livid about the fact taht I got it at all. My messages were over the course of 10 minutes, within a couple minutes between eachother. I was not just just putting "LFM", "LFM", "LFM" within seconds of eachother. There are literally time stamps in the logs they sent me! I had peopel slowly coming to help my group. I was running a group for Wily Keeva up in Northern Elsweyr, and I had some low levels who wanted help - so I called for more, and was sharing the quest with those who joined.I'm confused. Should I be asking if I can have all your stuff?
That aside I'm with you that asking for more for a world boss shouldn't be spamming chat unless you are doing them just a couple of seconds apart.
If this is the statement they want to make, does that mean anyone calling for help with a world boss is also "spamming" chat, and is due an "official warning"?Edited by MeinChurro on February 2, 2020 2:28AM2 -
Altaire✭✭✭I got a spam warning for buying keep repair items. So, everything is normal... Nothing to see here.Edited by Altaire on February 2, 2020 2:34AM2 -
esotoon✭✭✭✭✭
✭Just curious, how did you get this warning. If it was in-game are you sure it was from a GM and not someone trolling?Edited by esotoon on February 2, 2020 2:34AM0 -
Mr_Walker✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭If this is true, I have seen far more egregious spamming of zone.
Seriously, I don't mind people putting a couple of items up in zone chat for sale occasionally, I do it myself, but there's no need to list your whole inventory.0 -
MeinChurro✭✭✭
I will show you exactly what my "offense" was.If this is true, I have seen far more egregious spamming of zone.
Seriously, I don't mind people putting a couple of items up in zone chat for sale occasionally, I do it myself, but there's no need to list your whole inventory.
LFM 'The Trader's Terror' Kill Wily Kee'va
That's a direct quote from my email displaying the chat logs of my "offense". Not joking.
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newtinmpls✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I actually don't even know what you were asking for in your "spam" but it certainly looks briefTenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
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House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis1 -
MeinChurro✭✭✭
I was running a small group with a low level here and there for the world boss Wily Keeva in Northern Elsweyr, calling for more to help kill it. Which my group member wanted BY THE WAY.newtinmpls wrote: »I actually don't even know what you were asking for in your "spam" but it certainly looks brief
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D0PAMINE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭MeinChurro wrote: »
I will show you exactly what my "offense" was.If this is true, I have seen far more egregious spamming of zone.
Seriously, I don't mind people putting a couple of items up in zone chat for sale occasionally, I do it myself, but there's no need to list your whole inventory.
LFM 'The Trader's Terror' Kill Wily Kee'va
That's a direct quote from my email displaying the chat logs of my "offense". Not joking.
Yeah i'd be pissed too. I think that was a bit too strict. It appears as though a number people just reported you, and they based the punishment off the number rather than digging deeper. Could have been automated.1 -
MeinChurro✭✭✭
I know they did, and if they have some system in place that automatically bans people for number of reports there is a huge problem here, and if a GM looked at this, and seriously though I was "ruining the experience of others" where I was literally calling for others in my group as the group leader, and sharing the daily quest with anyone who joined, then there is a problem. This is an mmorpg, I was spacing all of my calls out, so I wouldn't be spamming. I'm sorry for trying to play the game with other people, won't happen again.MeinChurro wrote: »
I will show you exactly what my "offense" was.If this is true, I have seen far more egregious spamming of zone.
Seriously, I don't mind people putting a couple of items up in zone chat for sale occasionally, I do it myself, but there's no need to list your whole inventory.
LFM 'The Trader's Terror' Kill Wily Kee'va
That's a direct quote from my email displaying the chat logs of my "offense". Not joking.
Yeah i'd be pissed too. I think that was a bit too strict. It appears as though a number people just reported you, and they based the punishment off the number rather than digging deeper. Could have been automated.
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Iarao✭✭✭✭MeinChurro wrote: »
It's just a warning - not a ban. I am more livid about the fact taht I got it at all. My messages were over the course of 10 minutes, within a couple minutes between eachother. I was not just just putting "LFM", "LFM", "LFM" within seconds of eachother. There are literally time stamps in the logs they sent me! I had peopel slowly coming to help my group. I was running a group for Wily Keeva up in Northern Elsweyr, and I had some low levels who wanted help - so I called for more, and was sharing the quest with those who joined.I'm confused. Should I be asking if I can have all your stuff?
That aside I'm with you that asking for more for a world boss shouldn't be spamming chat unless you are doing them just a couple of seconds apart.
If this is the statement they want to make, does that mean anyone calling for help with a world boss is also "spamming" chat, and is due an "official warning"?
i can tell you that zos participates in bullying. you just need several guildies (not your own) to get together and put in a complaint. they dont bother to really look at it. that is how i lost a name on a toon. of course sir faps alot is just fine, right?0 -
starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭MeinChurro wrote: »
Weird.
My advice would be, type out the request each time, and vary up the text, so it's not just the same request each time.
I guess if you weren't saying anything else at all, that could be a factor.
Either that or ZOS has suddenly gotten a lot more sensitive about chat spam.1 -
MeinChurro✭✭✭
I can't tell if you are being sarcastic here after you included the name, but the essence of your post is true. They will actually force name changes if they get mass reports of people making a faux complaint.MeinChurro wrote: »
It's just a warning - not a ban. I am more livid about the fact taht I got it at all. My messages were over the course of 10 minutes, within a couple minutes between eachother. I was not just just putting "LFM", "LFM", "LFM" within seconds of eachother. There are literally time stamps in the logs they sent me! I had peopel slowly coming to help my group. I was running a group for Wily Keeva up in Northern Elsweyr, and I had some low levels who wanted help - so I called for more, and was sharing the quest with those who joined.I'm confused. Should I be asking if I can have all your stuff?
That aside I'm with you that asking for more for a world boss shouldn't be spamming chat unless you are doing them just a couple of seconds apart.
If this is the statement they want to make, does that mean anyone calling for help with a world boss is also "spamming" chat, and is due an "official warning"?
i can tell you that zos participates in bullying. you just need several guildies (not your own) to get together and put in a complaint. they dont bother to really look at it. that is how i lost a name on a toon. of course sir faps alot is just fine, right?
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Gnortranermara✭✭✭✭✭
✭It's a really bad misuse of the term "spamming", but there are many different types of signals that the server counts as "messages". I've been booted from server for linking items in chat while trading motifs during events, for instance, and it counts those messages as "spam" if you do too many too fast. During laggy periods, even regular key presses count as "spam messages" when the server receives several seconds worth of button mashing all in one instant.
It's not meant to be targeting you personally, so don't take it personally. It's just a malfunction of a safety mechanism they have in place to stop real spammers and DDOS attacks.1 -
MeinChurro✭✭✭
That could be it, and there wasn't much chat, so the GM may have looked at it out of context and thought I was nonstop spamming. I suppose it may be too much to ask for a GM too look at all context, and the actual timestamps between each message.starkerealm wrote: »MeinChurro wrote: »
Weird.
My advice would be, type out the request each time, and vary up the text, so it's not just the same request each time.
I guess if you weren't saying anything else at all, that could be a factor.
Either that or ZOS has suddenly gotten a lot more sensitive about chat spam.
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MeinChurro✭✭✭
When did you receive the warning for spamming? My messages were timestamped 4 days ago. I spaced them out, I was not chatting one after another in quick succession. It took them 4 days to issue me an "official warning" via email.SidewalkChalk5 wrote: »It's a really bad misuse of the term "spamming", but there are many different types of signals that the server counts as "messages". I've been booted from server for linking items in chat while trading motifs during events, for instance, and it counts those messages as "spam" if you do too many too fast. During laggy periods, even regular key presses count as "spam messages" when the server receives several seconds worth of button mashing all in one instant.
It's not meant to be targeting you personally, so don't take it personally. It's just a malfunction of a safety mechanism they have in place to stop real spammers and DDOS attacks.
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technohic✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I got a spam warning for buying keep repair items. So, everything is normal... Nothing to see here.
I get those all the time and I'll say be careful because I think I have a social ban from it. I have probably said 2 things in chat in 2 weeks yet I have a ticket open because I cannot shop any guild trader. I only get the option "Goodbye" when I talk to them. Opened a ticket and their response 8 hours later is "Have your guild leader check your permissions." I'm sure it will take another several hours for the dunderheads to figure out the clarification.0 -
starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭MeinChurro wrote: »
That could be it, and there wasn't much chat, so the GM may have looked at it out of context and thought I was nonstop spamming. I suppose it may be too much to ask for a GM too look at all context, and the actual timestamps between each message.starkerealm wrote: »MeinChurro wrote: »
Weird.
My advice would be, type out the request each time, and vary up the text, so it's not just the same request each time.
I guess if you weren't saying anything else at all, that could be a factor.
Either that or ZOS has suddenly gotten a lot more sensitive about chat spam.
Remember that the vanilla chat system does not include a timestamp. You get that from an addon. Now, I don't know what the GM interface looks like, but it wouldn't surprise me if their chat client was very similar to the vanilla client, with additional permissions.0 -
InaMoonlight✭✭✭✭✭Don't worry too much a bout it, it's actually a tech response to people with mail addons who spam 500 people (at best) in five minutes, don't worry if it progresses beyond the warning, you just tell em and they and look it up, and see you were REALLY just desperate for a group
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