No new skill line or class in GreyMoor?

Libonotus

Disappointing to say the least, especially for the price being at the same level of the chapters that had a lot of content

Casterial

Libonotus wrote: »

Disappointing to say the least, especially for the price being at the same level of the chapters that had a lot of content

What are you talking about?! You get 2 new skill lines for antique collecting! Psssh!

TelvanniWizard

I was hoping for 1h and rune/spell...

Casterial

TelvanniWizard wrote: »

I was hoping for 1h and rune/spell...

ANTIQUING MAN!

SirAxen

Personally, I'm excited for the new system. It's nice to have something new for us lore nuts that doesn't solely revolve around killing stuff. There is plenty and I mean beyond plenty of that sort of content in the game already. A new trial is coming and a ton of new dungeons are coming. A new system that expands on the Elder Scrolls universe is awesome.

ArchMikem

Im looking forward to Antiquities as well. I dont need MOAR COMBAT to be a continued player, this treasure hunting mechanic may be interesting, give Lore insights, and on top they said the system will allow you to loot Mythic gear which IS a combat addition for you all.

StrandedMonkey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k0SmqbBIpQ

Artorias24

I am also disappointed tbh. This tressure hunting is quite of an pve/casual thing and nothing for the endgame playerbase. Ofc we get loot from it that may be usefull in endgame content but thats not enough for me to buy a whole chapter.

I am want new Systems combat wise. Every chapter had this. Nee class or skill line. This is just not enough....

drkfrontiers

Artorias24 wrote: »

I am also disappointed tbh. This tressure hunting is quite of an pve/casual thing and nothing for the endgame playerbase. Ofc we get loot from it that may be usefull in endgame content but thats not enough for me to buy a whole chapter.

I am want new Systems combat wise. Every chapter had this. Nee class or skill line. This is just not enough....

I believe they did mention skills would be attainable in the system. (I could be wrong)

Nyladreas

Do we play RPGs for the story and the world, do we play them like a huge open book anymore?? I'm honestly baffled why people care so much about some skill lines when there's such a huge opportunity to learn about the world, the history and such. It pains me more knowing I'll be missing out on the lore than new combat honestly.

Get off the dopamine addiction lol.

SydneyGrey

They added the antiquities system instead. I'd love to see a new skill line, class or race too (the antiquities-specific "skills" don't count for me as a skill line). I'm pretty happy about the antiquities things, though. It sounds like it might be fun.

bearbelly

Nyladreas wrote: »

Do we play RPGs for the story and the world, do we play them like a huge open book anymore?? I'm honestly baffled why people care so much about some skill lines when there's such a huge opportunity to learn about the world, the history and such.

Get off the dopamine addiction lol.

People like their stat sticks. None of that other stuff matters to them.

Anotherone773

Libonotus wrote: »

Disappointing to say the least, especially for the price being at the same level of the chapters that had a lot of content

1) We already have 9000 skill lines with about 2 skills each that people use. We dont need another.
2) They are avoiding adding combat stuff this year because they are fixing combat stuff this year and adding to it would only add more complications to the process.
3) They are fixing a bunch of things this year including performance issues, combat, and id say we will be seeing a new leveling system before the year is out.

People complain because they add new stuff and dont fix the old stuff. Then when they fix the old stuff, finally.... people complain because they didnt add ENOUGH new stuff. I think people just like to complain.

Artorias24 wrote: »

I am also disappointed tbh. This tressure hunting is quite of an pve/casual thing and nothing for the endgame playerbase. Ofc we get loot from it that may be usefull in endgame content but thats not enough for me to buy a whole chapter.

I am want new Systems combat wise. Every chapter had this. Nee class or skill line. This is just not enough....

Speak for yourself. I plan on using some of that mythic gear on my characters. Those furnishings are going in my house. And treasure hunting is a great end game activity for me. Endgame just isnt trials and Cyro.

Artorias24

Anotherone773 wrote: »

Libonotus wrote: »

Disappointing to say the least, especially for the price being at the same level of the chapters that had a lot of content

1) We already have 9000 skill lines with about 2 skills each that people use. We dont need another.
2) They are avoiding adding combat stuff this year because they are fixing combat stuff this year and adding to it would only add more complications to the process.
3) They are fixing a bunch of things this year including performance issues, combat, and id say we will be seeing a new leveling system before the year is out.

People complain because they add new stuff and dont fix the old stuff. Then when they fix the old stuff, finally.... people complain because they didnt add ENOUGH new stuff. I think people just like to complain.

Artorias24 wrote: »

I am also disappointed tbh. This tressure hunting is quite of an pve/casual thing and nothing for the endgame playerbase. Ofc we get loot from it that may be usefull in endgame content but thats not enough for me to buy a whole chapter.

I am want new Systems combat wise. Every chapter had this. Nee class or skill line. This is just not enough....

Speak for yourself. I plan on using some of that mythic gear on my characters. Those furnishings are going in my house. And treasure hunting is a great end game activity for me. Endgame just isnt trials and Cyro.

For you it May be endgame but endgame is indeed pvp and trials as 90% of the players would agree with. We dont know how strong those new mythical items will be but from what i heared its nothing completly new. Some increased movement speed is not a new mechanic.

The last DLC was already nothing for endgame players. We got a new Overland Zone with some questing. The last end year dlcs had much more. New Trial (Asylum) with 12 new ability altering weapons and murkmire Had a new Arena with also new weapons. End year dlc from 2019 was just trash content wise. It was just some overland questing.

i dont feel anything special in this chapter tho. We will see how strong those artifacts are. Prolly really strong to sell the chapter cause there is nothing else

perolord

Nyladreas wrote: »

Do we play RPGs for the story and the world, do we play them like a huge open book anymore?? I'm honestly baffled why people care so much about some skill lines when there's such a huge opportunity to learn about the world, the history and such. It pains me more knowing I'll be missing out on the lore than new combat honestly.

Get off the dopamine addiction lol.

But this is MMORPG... not only RPG... and the biggest difference in MMO is combat... PVP... Eso can be lucky that majority of plyaers play this game because of SKYRIM... otherwise, this game will die a long time ago already... MMORPG is not all about story - one of the biggest things in MMORPG is combat, which is evolving throught the years in game...

SeaGtGruff

TelvanniWizard wrote: »

I was hoping for 1h and rune/spell...

Was that based on a "datamined" icon that's been used in plain sight for a specific purpose within the game for years, if not from the very beginning, which is now being claimed to have a different purpose?

Unit117

It really annoys me that the base classes have been playing pretty much the same for like 5 years. This game desperately needs a new subclasses added or the move pools expanded for each of the classes. It’s stale. It’s ridiculous how much they are charging on top of the subscriptions we pay each month that they aren’t further developing our combat experiences.

We are giving them like 230 bucks a year for the last 5 years. Why the hell has dragonknights, sorcerers, Templar’s, and nightblades not seen any sort of expansions in thier theme?

TelvanniWizard

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

TelvanniWizard wrote: »

I was hoping for 1h and rune/spell...

Was that based on a "datamined" icon that's been used in plain sight for a specific purpose within the game for years, if not from the very beginning, which is now being claimed to have a different purpose?

No, my hopes were based on the fact that magicka players don´t have a close combat weapon, and also that 1h and spell was something incredibly popular in Skyrim.

Thevampirenight

We are getting new vampire skills and a blood scion transformation. This comes with the chapter update. Though it will be base game. So We are getting new skills. Just maybe not having to require the chapter to get. As well as a new vampire feeding mechanic that gets rid of that funnel drain animation and gives us more of a vtm style vampire feed except maybe more gore involved. So will be interesting to see what they all do with that.

jircris11

Libonotus wrote: »

Disappointing to say the least, especially for the price being at the same level of the chapters that had a lot of content

upgrade. Rework, from what I understand they wont be all passives now.

Chaos2088

Yeah was also hoping for a new weapon skill line,

But as someone mentioned they are really trying to balance things at the moment, so makes sense for them to tick that (let's be honest there is never going to be 100% balance but sure they will get close) before they start adding stuff.

Plus the huge improvements are coming this way, I do think the team at ZoS is not as big as we think, there is so much to be done so little time....

.....unless they hire willy wonka and his oompa loompas!!

Cirantille

SirAxen wrote: »

Personally, I'm excited for the new system. It's nice to have something new for us lore nuts that doesn't solely revolve around killing stuff. There is plenty and I mean beyond plenty of that sort of content in the game already. A new trial is coming and a ton of new dungeons are coming. A new system that expands on the Elder Scrolls universe is awesome.

True

Killing those Psijic rifts and mages guild lore books

They were some exquisite and tough enemies indeed

heaven13

Anotherone773 wrote: »

Libonotus wrote: »

Disappointing to say the least, especially for the price being at the same level of the chapters that had a lot of content

1) We already have 9000 skill lines with about 2 skills each that people use. We dont need another.
2) They are avoiding adding combat stuff this year because they are fixing combat stuff this year and adding to it would only add more complications to the process.
3) They are fixing a bunch of things this year including performance issues, combat, and id say we will be seeing a new leveling system before the year is out.

People complain because they add new stuff and dont fix the old stuff. Then when they fix the old stuff, finally.... people complain because they didnt add ENOUGH new stuff. I think people just like to complain.

Artorias24 wrote: »

I am also disappointed tbh. This tressure hunting is quite of an pve/casual thing and nothing for the endgame playerbase. Ofc we get loot from it that may be usefull in endgame content but thats not enough for me to buy a whole chapter.

I am want new Systems combat wise. Every chapter had this. Nee class or skill line. This is just not enough....

Speak for yourself. I plan on using some of that mythic gear on my characters. Those furnishings are going in my house. And treasure hunting is a great end game activity for me. Endgame just isnt trials and Cyro.

None of these are acceptable reasons, imo, to charge the same as chapters that introduced new classes. While I get that performance needs to be fixed, they could have very easily lowered the price, even to the same as what they charged initially for Summerset since they aren't planning on including as much content.

• Morrowind: new zone, new class, new game style (BGs), new trial = $40
• Summerset: new zone, new guild, new crafting line, new mini trial = $30
• Elsweyr: new zone, new class, new trial = $40
• Skyrim: new zone, new trial, new...mini games? = $40

SeaGtGruff

TelvanniWizard wrote: »

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

TelvanniWizard wrote: »

I was hoping for 1h and rune/spell...

Was that based on a "datamined" icon that's been used in plain sight for a specific purpose within the game for years, if not from the very beginning, which is now being claimed to have a different purpose?

No, my hopes were based on the fact that magicka players don´t have a close combat weapon, and also that 1h and spell was something incredibly popular in Skyrim.

But were there any posts expressing a hope for this in the ESO forums before the thread about that "datamined" icon?

AuraStorm43

Not having a new skill line that i have to grind and ZoS gets to make money off of making grindy sounds good to me

Whomever made the psijic quests did so knowing how much time it wastes, i don’t want more time wasting so ZoS can charge me a premium to save time

Anotherone773

Artorias24 wrote: »

For you it May be endgame but endgame is indeed pvp and trials as 90% of the players would agree with. We dont know how strong those new mythical items will be but from what i heared its nothing completly new. Some increased movement speed is not a new mechanic.

Endgame is what people do at the end of the game. I can promise you only a minority of players pvp and do trials once they reach endgame. So while 90% of your friends might agree that is endgame, it is not what 90% of people do once the reach endgame.

Just so we are clear endgame is defined as "The gameplay available in mostly massively multiplayer online role-playing games for characters that have completed/nearly completed their level progression." I can assure you most of the CP810s running around in game are doing neither trials nor PVP. If they do PVP it wont be competitively. The rest of your post is irrelevant because you think endgame means " only what i am interested in and nothing for anyone else"

heaven13 wrote: »

Anotherone773 wrote: »

Libonotus wrote: »

Disappointing to say the least, especially for the price being at the same level of the chapters that had a lot of content

1) We already have 9000 skill lines with about 2 skills each that people use. We dont need another.
2) They are avoiding adding combat stuff this year because they are fixing combat stuff this year and adding to it would only add more complications to the process.
3) They are fixing a bunch of things this year including performance issues, combat, and id say we will be seeing a new leveling system before the year is out.

People complain because they add new stuff and dont fix the old stuff. Then when they fix the old stuff, finally.... people complain because they didnt add ENOUGH new stuff. I think people just like to complain.

Artorias24 wrote: »

I am also disappointed tbh. This tressure hunting is quite of an pve/casual thing and nothing for the endgame playerbase. Ofc we get loot from it that may be usefull in endgame content but thats not enough for me to buy a whole chapter.

I am want new Systems combat wise. Every chapter had this. Nee class or skill line. This is just not enough....

Speak for yourself. I plan on using some of that mythic gear on my characters. Those furnishings are going in my house. And treasure hunting is a great end game activity for me. Endgame just isnt trials and Cyro.

None of these are acceptable reasons, imo, to charge the same as chapters that introduced new classes. While I get that performance needs to be fixed, they could have very easily lowered the price, even to the same as what they charged initially for Summerset since they aren't planning on including as much content.

• Morrowind: new zone, new class, new game style (BGs), new trial = $40
• Summerset: new zone, new guild, new crafting line, new mini trial = $30
• Elsweyr: new zone, new class, new trial = $40
• Skyrim: new zone, new trial, new...mini games? = $40

You dont even know what the scope of this chapter is going to be. Youre making assumptions based on a few teasers. Its like watching a movie trailer and trying to convince us you know the entire story and how its going to end.

Also if its not worth it to you, dont buy it? Wait until Q2 2021 and you will get it for free if its unworthy of your wallet.

Aznarb

Wait, do we get antiquities in the prologue DLC ? It's not coming with the chapter ?

Spearpoint

I like to PvP and PvE, but I'm a terrible quester, and never seems to do quests properly, or I might miss something important.

But MAN I'm hyped for the new antiques aspects that's coming!

Hopefully there will be more concepts to expand upon current things to do in ESO like this, in the future (along with 1hand+rune )

xxthir13enxx

In all honesty I’ll only be happy if...
The Orb of Golden Death

Is buried and can be found through Antiquing

Unseelie

No new class was expected.

Seraphayel

Anotherone773 wrote: »

You dont even know what the scope of this chapter is going to be. Youre making assumptions based on a few teasers. Its like watching a movie trailer and trying to convince us you know the entire story and how its going to end.

Also if its not worth it to you, dont buy it? Wait until Q2 2021 and you will get it for free if its unworthy of your wallet.

We exactly know the scope of the Chapter as they already told us: the zone will have the standard Chapter-zone-layout and the trial has only 3 bosses.