Geodes and Transmutation in Teso

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xTypeSmoky
xTypeSmoky
Soul Shriven
I have been playing game for more than 3 years, almost 10 thousand hours have been played. I began to notice a problem in simply retrieving sets of items. The fact that it took months (getting a certain weapon with a promising trait) now takes hours/days. Looking at this perspective of game, I am disappointed. I want to note that many players are much less involved in game, not counting those players who are passionate about "owning real estate." I want to offer this option of events, move transmutation geodes to a monthly reward (in the middle or at the end of the month) ~ 50 geodes will be an entrance reward, then transmutation will be for those players who spend enough time in game. Hunt for prey will also increase - which I consider necessary for MMORPG.
I will be very grateful to players who support this initiative, you are the best! :)
Edited by xTypeSmoky on April 25, 2020 5:30AM
  • Aznarb
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    No thx, it's already long enough, I've a life.
    More option to get them would be nice, pvp and donjon only is a bit boring after month of farming for different set.
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  • xTypeSmoky
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    Aznarb wrote: »
    No thx, it's already long enough, I've a life.
    More option to get them would be nice, pvp and donjon only is a bit boring after month of farming for different set.

    I expected such an answer from a player who spends the day playing 1-2 hours. But you must understand that someone has time to spend at least 6 hours a day in game. I don’t have a desire to get all sets in game and as quickly as possible.
    Edited by xTypeSmoky on January 18, 2020 1:05AM
  • doomette
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    Or maybe you play how you want, spending months grinding for the right trait, and don’t try to impose your way of playing on others?
    Gear grind isn’t the only thing to spend time on in this game, thank goodness.
  • MasterSpatula
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    Oh, for God's sake.
    "A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle
  • VaranisArano
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    Usually players are complaining that they have to PVP to get their transmute stones, that it takes a month to get those, and they don't have enough storage for the ones they have...
  • Tsar_Gekkou
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    "The fact that it took months (getting a certain weapon with a promising trait) now takes hours/days."

    Lmao, i've been farming Moongrave Fane every day for 2 months looking for a Hollowfang lightning staff. I've farmed for Jorvuld's lightning staffs for weeks on end in the past as well. Don't tell me it's easy.
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  • Olupajmibanan
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    "The fact that it took months (getting a certain weapon with a promising trait) now takes hours/days."

    Lmao, i've been farming Moongrave Fane every day for 2 months looking for a Hollowfang lightning staff. I've farmed for Jorvuld's lightning staffs for weeks on end in the past as well. Don't tell me it's easy.

    That's nothing compared to Inferno Staff of Succession. You can't bring your friends to increase your chances to get it, you must do whole arena (it takes at least 20 minutes even on normal) and have only 1 chance to drop it and finally, you can't get weapons other than maelstrom ones from weekly rewards. Can't imagine farming this staff in right trait :lol:

    Maybe a challenge for OP :smiley: Farm Inferno Staff of Succession with Precise trait without using transmutation. Than you shall see what transmutation actualy stands for.
    Edited by Olupajmibanan on January 18, 2020 11:22AM
  • bmnoble
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    I know a lot of players that don't even bother with weapons from bind on pickup sets, they choose to use overland or crafted weapons instead and only farm the armor pieces for bind on pickup sets if they bother to use them.

    If you lucky you can get the weapons your after in a few days, RNG varies from person to person, I know people who have spent hundreds of runs of City of ash after their Burning spell weave fire stick and have yet to get it.


    To be honest I would rather have the weapons from dungeons as bind on equip to be sold in guild stores keep the armor and jewelry as bind on pick up so people still need to run the dungeons them selves to get all the gear they need.

    I would rather the sets be slightly easier to get, than have a lot of player put getting them in the too hard basket and never getting to try out some of the more interesting sets.


    In the process of farming a Sanctuary resto staff, I though getting the sword and shield would be the hard part, seriously why doesn't this set have a named resto staff, instead of Ice and Fire staffs.

    God of RNG help those farming the harder dungeons, I would not have the patience for that, let alone those people after the specific trait.
  • zvavi
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    That's nothing compared to Inferno Staff of Succession. You can't bring your friends to increase your chances to get it, you must do whole arena (it takes at least 20 minutes even on normal) and have only 1 chance to drop it and finally, you can't get weapons other than maelstrom ones from weekly rewards. Can't imagine farming this staff in right trait :lol:

    Maybe a challenge for OP :smiley: Farm Inferno Staff of Succession with Precise trait without using transmutation. Than you shall see what transmutation actualy stands for.

    Well, both has a chance to drop the right weapon for you every 54 runs, but thing you forgot about is, when you are in vMGF, chances are, all 4 need hollowfang lightning staff xd

    PS, i do have succession fire, i dont have hollowfang lightning
  • MajBludd
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    Here we go again with somebody telling everyone how they need to play.

    Many of us work, have families, and other responsibilities that dont tie us down to a computer for 6hrs everyday wasting our lives

    Nobody cares how you want to play but you. So, your opinion doesnt mean much to many.
  • Olupajmibanan
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    zvavi wrote: »

    Well, both has a chance to drop the right weapon for you every 54 runs, but thing you forgot about is, when you are in vMGF, chances are, all 4 need hollowfang lightning staff xd

    PS, i do have succession fire, i dont have hollowfang lightning

    I farmed Hollowfang Lightning when the set came out and nobody knew at that time that the set is actually a thing.

    But point still stands. You can bring friends to help you. For Succession Inferno (I don't have it yet) there is no other hope than just mindlessly doing maelstrom arena all over again on your own.
    Edited by Olupajmibanan on January 18, 2020 1:05PM
  • Knightpanther
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    Not a chance of support from me mate sorry.
    Anything that helps to negate some RNG is always welcome.
    And to be honest what you feel is 'enough time in the game' may not be what folks like me with a job and family consider reasonable.

    Be safe
  • Lughlongarm
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    As a relatively new player(400 cp) with only one max level Character, I DK what are you talking about. I'm not near to optimize my gear traits. I try to do my daily PVP almost each day. I'm doing 1-2 dungeon pledges not everyday but like 3 times a week. On average this will result in ~25 crystals a week. So 2 weeks for one item. You have up to 12 items to adjust for one build and in ESO you need way more than one build setup.

    I found out about cyrodiil end of campaign reward just not so long ago. But stil, l only have one character that is able to survive in cyrodiil . So sure, veterans players like you are probably swimming with Geodes, gold, resources etc... But for new players it is still a struggle.
  • zvavi
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    I farmed Hollowfang Lightning when the set came out and nobody knew at that time that the set is actually a thing.

    But point still stands. You can bring friends to help you. For Succession Inferno (I don't have it yet) there is no other hope than just mindlessly doing maelstrom arena all over again on your own.

    ... Dont know which platform you are playing on but hollowfang was a thing since the first moment it was out :laughter:
  • Pauls
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    OP, do you feel your efforts for getting gear now looks less "valuable" because it became easier? If yes, only thing you can do is accepting it, not asking devs to make gear hunt harder – thats just ridiculous and not friendly to new players.
    Edited by Pauls on January 18, 2020 1:46PM
  • Knightpanther
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    Pauls wrote: »
    OP, do you feel your efforts for getting gear now looks less "valuable" because it became easier? If yes, only thing you can do is accepting it, not asking devs to make gear hunt harder – thats just ridiculous and not friendly to new players.

    This ^

    One of the reasons ive been here since day one is that they promised gear would not be a grind, they have so far stood by that with most crafting sets being not far behind those gained from dungeons.
    In fact i run the new Ancient Dragonguard over some sets i took ages to farm.

    Grinding for gear over and over to get the right items is a turn off for most folks these days, look what an effect it had on SWTOR, the game is dead.

    Be safe
  • Wrecking_Blow_Spam
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    Why don't you not use transmutation and just farm for the gear good old fashioned way? I'm sure you'll have more fun re running content 1000s of times for a perfect set.
    Good luck!
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  • aldriq
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    If you need real grind, try master angler...
  • LadyNalcarya
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    As someone who farmed vMA inferno before transmute and 100% droprate I disapprove of this post.
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  • idk
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    Zos already puts rewards into doing the event so it doesn’t make sense to add geodes to it.

    Further, Zos places geode rewards behind specific activities to encourage participation in those areas. So if someone is having problems finding a group to do those activities with I’d suggest find a better guild.
  • Brrrofski
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    I've been playing this game since Xbox launch (so longer than you by a fair bit), before transmute and before you could trade with group members.

    I've farmed and farmed and farmed and farmed. Hundreds and hundreds of hours spent inside dungeons, running around Publix dungoens, killing world bosses, farming chests. No more. Now I want to get stuff and and pvp. Why should I spend that time doing easy, boring stuff I don't like just so I can do what I want to?

    If it wasn't so easy to make builds - I'd seriously stop playing at this point. Trying our new builds in pvp is the only fun I have on this game these days.

    Even with transmute stones, I still need the right weapon, the right pieces of armor, the right weight monster helm. I've done VMA over 100 times and STILL have no resto or bow, regardless of trait.
    Edited by Brrrofski on January 18, 2020 7:03PM
  • Tsar_Gekkou
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    That's nothing compared to Inferno Staff of Succession. You can't bring your friends to increase your chances to get it, you must do whole arena (it takes at least 20 minutes even on normal) and have only 1 chance to drop it and finally, you can't get weapons other than maelstrom ones from weekly rewards. Can't imagine farming this staff in right trait :lol:

    Maybe a challenge for OP :smiley: Farm Inferno Staff of Succession with Precise trait without using transmutation. Than you shall see what transmutation actualy stands for.

    Well at least doing normal Maelstrom is as easy as porting there and plowing through everything quickly. I spend so much time waiting in the queue to get into Moongrave. If I queue on my healer the queue time is a bit quicker but then I get stuck with snipe-spamming dps most of the time and it takes longer than 20 minutes to finish it on normal. If I queue on dps so stuff actuall dies, it's a miracle to get into the dungeon at all.
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  • xTypeSmoky
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    Well, what can I say about this, obviously, everyone has time to sit on forum, but there is no time to find best outfit to be a competitive player.
    You are right, I am interested in fact that game has weak and strong players due to their equipment, I believe that RPG genre cannot do without it.
    In addition, I do not propose removing transmutation, but only changing method of extraction of geode
    Are you still farming sets zones for sale to players? :D
    P.S. I received all vMA weapons, all sets of monsters, including dungeon weapons (BSW staff) with desired trait before they introduced transmutation. To this day, I use transmutation only for weapons and jewelry.
    Edited by xTypeSmoky on January 20, 2020 6:36PM
  • iiYuki
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    I still prefer to farm a set out than spend a months worth of transmute stones to change one piece. Only use them on difficult monster heads or rare / expensive pieces like BSW staff, mother sorrow staff etc.
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  • Veinblood1965
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    Aznarb wrote: »
    No thx, it's already long enough, I've a life.
    More option to get them would be nice, pvp and donjon only is a bit boring after month of farming for different set.

    Agreed, it's what burnt me out and I unsubbed for a bit a while back. Endless dungeons for stupid stones.
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