Greymoor Steam price for Ukraine

eric_m

i has check Steam price for Ukraine and others regions on https://steamdb.info/sub/422592/ and what do we have?:

The Elder Scrolls Online - Greymoor Digital Collector's Edition Upgrade

U.S. Dollar $49.99 Base Price
Ukrainian Hryvnia 1799₴ $74.45 +48.93%

Maxx7410

taxes?

bharathitman

I made another thread about steam pricing in India too. It's 60% more expensive than Elsweyr Upgrade edition, more expensive than most of the AAA titles.

eric_m

For example price for The Elder Scrolls Online - Elsweyr Digital Collector's Edition Upgrade:

Ukrainian Hryvnia 999₴ $41.34 -17.30%
U.S. Dollar $49.99 Base Price

https://steamdb.info/sub/369042/

Aznarb

Probably an error.
Can't see the point to make Ukrainian paid more

eric_m

bharathitman wrote: »

I made another thread about steam pricing in India too. It's 60% more expensive than Elsweyr Upgrade edition, more expensive than most of the AAA titles.

yeah, i see your price....... what can i say? it's insane

Ukrainian_Toy

I have 3 questions about the price of Greymoor in Steam for Ukraine. Tell me please:
1. Why the price of Greymoor is almost double that of Elsweyr, although the price on the official website is the same?
2. Where is the regional price?
3. If this is not a mistake, why is the price for Ukraine higher than the official price?

Ukrainian_Toy

Maxx7410 wrote: »

taxes?

Products from overseas for individuals up to 100 € are not taxed. In Ukraine.

ArchMikem

Google says $1 usd exchanges to 24.29 Hryvnia. So $39.99 (basic digital upgrade) equals 971.40 Hryvnia. Sounds like you guys are getting a hell of a deal. I just realized you meant 1,799.00. Nevermind.

Your currency is also quite challenging to pronounce in English.

Anotherone773

ArchMikem wrote: »

Google says $1 usd exchanges to 24.29 Hryvnia. So $39.99 (basic digital upgrade) equals 971.40 Hryvnia. Sounds like you guys are getting a hell of a deal. I just realized you meant 1,799.00. Nevermind.

Your currency is also quite challenging to pronounce in English.

You should try saying it in Dovahzul. I bit my tongue 3 times on the first syllable.

eric_m

ArchMikem wrote: »

Google says $1 usd exchanges to 24.29 Hryvnia. So $39.99 (basic digital upgrade) equals 971.40 Hryvnia. Sounds like you guys are getting a hell of a deal. I just realized you meant 1,799.00. Nevermind.

Your currency is also quite challenging to pronounce in English.

Ok, we have: 1USD=24.29UAH (Ukrainian Hryvnia)

The Elder Scrolls Online - Greymoor Upgrade
39.99USD = 39.99*24.29= 971.36UAH
1399UAH = 1399/24.29=57.60USD

The Elder Scrolls Online - Greymoor Digital Collector's Edition Upgrade
49.99USD = 49.99*24.29=1214.26UAH
1799UAH = 1799/24.29=74.06USD

Strange Steam mathematics...

mocap

32$ in Russia. Absolutely weird price for Ukraine, agree.

XomRhoK

eric_m wrote: »

i has check Steam price for Ukraine and others regions on https://steamdb.info/sub/422592/ and what do we have?:

The Elder Scrolls Online - Greymoor Digital Collector's Edition Upgrade

U.S. Dollar $49.99 Base Price
Ukrainian Hryvnia 1799₴ $74.45 +48.93%

I checked your link and it seems Steam's mistake. As i understood, someone assumed that Russia and Ukraine have same currency, prices in numbers are very similar for all type of editions:

• The Elder Scrolls Online - Greymoor 1999 ₽ 1999₴
• The Elder Scrolls Online - Greymoor Upgrade 1499 ₽ 1399₴
• The Elder Scrolls Online - Greymoor Digital Collector's Edition 2599 ₽ 2399₴
• The Elder Scrolls Online - Greymoor Digital Collector's Edition Upgrade 1999 ₽ 1799₴

But in reality this currencies have 2.5 times difference in exchange rates, that's why the prices for Ukraine so high.

Demetreuss

Did the developers comment on this somehow? ZoS know about this error? Or is this error on the Steam side?

Ukrainian_Toy

Demetreuss wrote: »

Did the developers comment on this somehow? ZoS know about this error? Or is this error on the Steam side?

I wrote in support (ticket number 200117-003883). They pretend that it is not their responsibility

jircris11

Ukrainian_Toy wrote: »

Demetreuss wrote: »

Did the developers comment on this somehow? ZoS know about this error? Or is this error on the Steam side?

I wrote in support (ticket number 200117-003883). They pretend that it is not their responsibility

Price conversion on steam is steams doing not zeni, zeno gives the file and prices to steam who then place and price them for all areas that can buy. Steam has a habit of screwing up prices, just wait a month and it will most likely be fixed.

TonyWerner

"Greetings,

Thank you for contacting the Elder Scrolls Online Team.

We are not able to process requests regarding why purchases may or may not be the same as another country. Steam sets their prices on their store. We advise contacting your retailer for further assistance.

Thank you for your continued patience and support.

Best Regards,
The Elder Scrolls Online Team"

eric_m

Full comparison:

Ok, we have: 1USD=24.29UAH (Ukrainian Hryvnia)

The Elder Scrolls Online - Greymoor Upgrade
39.99USD = 39.99*24.29= 971.36UAH
1399UAH = 1399/24.29=57.60USD

The Elder Scrolls Online - Greymoor Digital Collector's Edition Upgrade
49.99USD = 49.99*24.29=1214.26UAH
1799UAH = 1799/24.29=74.06USD

The Elder Scrolls Online - Elsweyr Upgrade
39.99USD = 39.99*24.29= 971.36UAH
799UAH = 799/24.29=32.89USD

The Elder Scrolls Online - Elsweyr Digital Collector's Edition Upgrade
49.99USD = 49.99*24.29=1214.26UAH
999UAH = 999/24.29=41.12.06USD


Difference between Elsweur/Greymoor (Upgrade/CE upgrade):

32.89USD/57.60USD and 41.12USD/74.06USD

Really strange Steam mathematics...

Leocaran

TonyWerner wrote: »

Steam sets their prices on their store.

As far as I know, that's a blatant lie. Prices are always set by the devs. But steam has some regional price guidelines which devs can follow (or not, as they like). These guidelines could be reasonable or not. But in the end it's up to the devs.

redgreensunset

Leocaran wrote: »

TonyWerner wrote: »

Steam sets their prices on their store.

As far as I know, that's a blatant lie. Prices are always set by the devs. But steam has some regional price guidelines which devs can follow (or not, as they like). These guidelines could be reasonable or not. But in the end it's up to the devs.

I honestly doubt the devs have any say in what a game is priced. The company otoh...

Juhasow

Somebody has to pay ZoS for adding cyrillic subtitles



Seriously though just visit greenmangaming.com . They are official retailer approved by ZoS and digital upgrade price there is 36$. RUCIS and CN players can only buy steam version though.

Reverb

Ukrainian_Toy wrote: »

Demetreuss wrote: »

Did the developers comment on this somehow? ZoS know about this error? Or is this error on the Steam side?

I wrote in support (ticket number 200117-003883). They pretend that it is not their responsibility

This truly isn’t zeni’s to handle. They can contact Valve as a business partner and ask that they review the international pricing structure, but they cannot compel any changes in the Steam store. This is 100% on Valve, not Zeni.

Game studios tell Valve what the retail list price will be for content. Valve then decides what to actually list it for in the Steam store.

Ukrainian_Toy

Reverb wrote: »

Ukrainian_Toy wrote: »

Demetreuss wrote: »

Did the developers comment on this somehow? ZoS know about this error? Or is this error on the Steam side?

I wrote in support (ticket number 200117-003883). They pretend that it is not their responsibility

This truly isn’t zeni’s to handle. They can contact Valve as a business partner and ask that they review the international pricing structure, but they cannot compel any changes in the Steam store. This is 100% on Valve, not Zeni.

Game studios tell Valve what the retail list price will be for content. Valve then decides what to actually list it for in the Steam store.

Zeni can interfere. Finding out why their clients are being ripped off almost double the price compared to last year, and 50% more than the official price. It's their product, not Valve!
Can but do not interfere. Because it is not their "responsibility". They are indifferent to their players / clients.
I regret spending so much time and money for this company.

bharathitman

A lot of players from India are getting irritated too, for us Greymoor standard upgrade is 60% more expensive than Elsweyr. If Zeni doesn't do anything then for most of the players here it becomes a very significant purchase (more expensive than AAA titles). People are talking about waiting till September / October when it's discounted by 50%-60% (the discounted price will be closer to Elswyer pre-order price).

This is a simple oversight from Zenimax, if one compares Greymoor prices across various steam countries then you can see that countries like China have it 60% cheaper than us.

jircris11

It's still a year away, give it a bit I'm sure the morons at steam will fix it.

Ukrainian_Toy

jircris11 wrote: »

It's still a year away, give it a bit I'm sure the morons at steam will fix it.

Not funny, not at all.

XomRhoK

Ukrainian_Toy wrote: »

Reverb wrote: »

Ukrainian_Toy wrote: »

Demetreuss wrote: »

Did the developers comment on this somehow? ZoS know about this error? Or is this error on the Steam side?

I wrote in support (ticket number 200117-003883). They pretend that it is not their responsibility

This truly isn’t zeni’s to handle. They can contact Valve as a business partner and ask that they review the international pricing structure, but they cannot compel any changes in the Steam store. This is 100% on Valve, not Zeni.

Game studios tell Valve what the retail list price will be for content. Valve then decides what to actually list it for in the Steam store.

Zeni can interfere. Finding out why their clients are being ripped off almost double the price compared to last year, and 50% more than the official price. It's their product, not Valve!
Can but do not interfere. Because it is not their "responsibility". They are indifferent to their players / clients.
I regret spending so much time and money for this company.

Just write to Steam's support. I am sure ZOS give Valve only recomended price and % revenue they will get from sales, from that point Valve can set whatever prices they want and ZOS can't do nothing about it. I am sure it's just a mistake, but only Valve can fix it.

Rake

guess having VPN really pays up sometimes

Ukrainian_Toy

Rake wrote: »

guess having VPN really pays up sometimes

Thank you very much) I'm not sure if it's legal. But this is definitely not convenient, and not all Ukrainians will and can do it

Ukrainian_Toy

XomRhoK wrote: »

Just write to Steam's support. I am sure ZOS give Valve only recomended price and % revenue they will get from sales, from that point Valve can set whatever prices they want and ZOS can't do nothing about it. I am sure it's just a mistake, but only Valve can fix it.

Every time I try to write a support there, with this problem, through navigation, I get a game support page, not Steam.

XomRhoK

Ukrainian_Toy wrote: »

XomRhoK wrote: »

Just write to Steam's support. I am sure ZOS give Valve only recomended price and % revenue they will get from sales, from that point Valve can set whatever prices they want and ZOS can't do nothing about it. I am sure it's just a mistake, but only Valve can fix it.

Every time I try to write a support there, with this problem, through navigation, I get a game support page, not Steam.

I just made some research in the Google, seems, because there is no according category in Steam support, you need just go to any Steam category "Steam client" or "My account" and there will be "Contact with Steam support" button at the bottom, maybe additionally in some subcategory. Just write your ticket from there, and discribe it correctly, so the one who will read your ticket coulf redirect it to right support department.