worst class for pvp atm?

CowNRB

So what is the worst class for pvp atm? like In my opinion it's magDK. they really wrt to pvp need some love.

idk

The one you do not play very well. Player skill is the biggest factor in all aspects of ESO gameplay.

Kadoin

idk wrote: »

The one you do not play very well. Player skill is the biggest factor in all aspects of ESO gameplay.

I don't know, I will always claim the worst class is the class I play best. That way I can get it buffed to the point I can erase my opponents with no resistance.

No one can know my master plan; keep this on a need-to-know basis!

Iskiab

Loaded question! The answer’s always depends on the setting.

Strider__Roshin

Not speaking from personal experience, but judging from the polls, and the YouTube videos, and the discord... The answer is quite unanimous. Nightblades are considered to be the worst class in the game currently. And by a large margin. And that goes for both Stam and magicka.

lukoi

Strider__Roshin wrote: »

Not speaking from personal experience, but judging from the polls, and the YouTube videos, and the discord... The answer is quite unanimous. Nightblades are considered to be the worst class in the game currently. And by a large margin. And that goes for both Stam and magicka.

What discord?

Joinovikova

It hard to say which claass is the worst, but Mag DK is one of the best class now ..

Freakin_Hytte

Joinovikova wrote: »

It hard to say which claass is the worst, but Mag DK is one of the best class now ..

Lol magdk is a shadow of it former self right now, it's only decent in 1v1 because they haven't touched fossilize yet and I wouldn't be surprised if they gutted that one as well, stripping away magdks identity even more.

On topic: I would say nightblade are in the worst state, both mag and stam

ThePedge

Nightblade

Iskiab

Where did all the sorcs go?

Things haven’t changed that much for NBs in the past half year, but it used to be a thread like this would be piled on with sorcs asking for buffs for sorcs and more NB nerfs. This is freaking me out!

Maulkin

Depends on the context of course, some classes are better solo and others better in group. But on the sheer number of useless or simply broken abilities (some of which are very core to the class) it has to be Necro.

- Blastbones entirely unreliable and simply won't work in any lag
- Spirit Mender occasionally stops healing altogether.
- The corpse targeting for siphons is abysmal and they are hardly used in PvP.
- Pathetic damage aside (like most DoTs now) you can't even target opponents with the Skeletal pet.
- Grave Grasp (ground root) and Skull are too slow to be useful, no one really uses them.

Some other classes have broken or useless skills (Stone Fist, Blazing shield etc. etc) but no other class has so many of them with all being very core.

At least as MagNecro you have one genuinely good available playstyle in an AoE group dropping Colossus, Totem and harmonied Boneyard combos. But other than that particular context, everyone is clutching on vamp and psijic skills to get by and still performing worse off than all other classes.

Tommy_The_Gun

Well... Overall ? It would seem that stam NB...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8q-W0BsD6s&t=
(All credit to Isth3reno1else. He made 4 videos about class tier rankings in pvp. Solo, small scale, large scale and the final video to sum it up).

ThePedge

Iskiab wrote: »

Where did all the sorcs go?

Things haven’t changed that much for NBs in the past half year, but it used to be a thread like this would be piled on with sorcs asking for buffs for sorcs and more NB nerfs. This is freaking me out!

Conveniently all swapped to MagPlar last patch

MusCanus

Maulkin wrote: »

Depends on the context of course, some classes are better solo and others better in group. But on the sheer number of useless or simply broken abilities (some of which are very core to the class) it has to be Necro.

- Blastbones entirely unreliable and simply won't work in any lag
- Spirit Mender occasionally stops healing altogether.
- The corpse targeting for siphons is abysmal and they are hardly used in PvP.
- Pathetic damage aside (like most DoTs now) you can't even target opponents with the Skeletal pet.
- Grave Grasp (ground root) and Skull are too slow to be useful, no one really uses them.

Some other classes have broken or useless skills (Stone Fist, Blazing shield etc. etc) but no other class has so many of them with all being very core.

At least as MagNecro you have one genuinely good available playstyle in an AoE group dropping Colossus, Totem and harmonied Boneyard combos. But other than that particular context, everyone is clutching on vamp and psijic skills to get by and still performing worse off than all other classes.

Good stamcro is one of the toughest opponents both in duels and smallscale, on par with or better than stamden, stamDK and stamplar. Maybe you're doing smth wrong with all your corpses so they're not serving you well, hm?

phoenixkungfu

All classes are amazing in their own way. What I think needs help is the nerfing of playstyles. Spin to win, executor is way to effective vs class executes. Staff skill line should have a execute. Target damage different from nearby damage should be removed from the game. No classes that is last pick in any role shouldn't be 1 pick in another.

Xvorg

phoenixkungfu wrote: »

All classes are amazing in their own way. What I think needs help is the nerfing of playstyles. Spin to win, executor is way to effective vs class executes. Staff skill line should have a execute. Target damage different from nearby damage should be removed from the game. No classes that is last pick in any role shouldn't be 1 pick in another.

Don't you use major evasion against templars and spin2win spammers?

Rahar

Assuming equal player skill when playing each class (no learning involved) and similar situations, magblade almost always comes out on bottom. People will say you can play it with success, but the catch is that you can do more, easier on every other mag class, and even better on stam.

That being said stamblade's pretty bad too.

OrderoftheDarkness

Iskiab wrote: »

Where did all the sorcs go?

Things haven’t changed that much for NBs in the past half year, but it used to be a thread like this would be piled on with sorcs asking for buffs for sorcs and more NB nerfs. This is freaking me out!

Awesome! NB is the most common class in the game, so we'll probably see the most messages about it.
In truth, the worst classes in the game are those that rely on additional abilities - guilds, weapons... Simply put, these are those who do not have their weaving.
P. S. I don't take broken abilities into account.

katorga

MusCanus wrote: »

Maulkin wrote: »

Depends on the context of course, some classes are better solo and others better in group. But on the sheer number of useless or simply broken abilities (some of which are very core to the class) it has to be Necro.

- Blastbones entirely unreliable and simply won't work in any lag
- Spirit Mender occasionally stops healing altogether.
- The corpse targeting for siphons is abysmal and they are hardly used in PvP.
- Pathetic damage aside (like most DoTs now) you can't even target opponents with the Skeletal pet.
- Grave Grasp (ground root) and Skull are too slow to be useful, no one really uses them.

Some other classes have broken or useless skills (Stone Fist, Blazing shield etc. etc) but no other class has so many of them with all being very core.

At least as MagNecro you have one genuinely good available playstyle in an AoE group dropping Colossus, Totem and harmonied Boneyard combos. But other than that particular context, everyone is clutching on vamp and psijic skills to get by and still performing worse off than all other classes.

Good stamcro is one of the toughest opponents both in duels and smallscale, on par with or better than stamden, stamDK and stamplar. Maybe you're doing smth wrong with all your corpses so they're not serving you well, hm?

A player who is decent with any stam class can make stamcro work, but you start with 50% handicap that your best skill won't function at all. Stamden...simple, am I facing the right direction at the right time, for sub assault to hit. Bastbones...will it lag out, fail to move, get confused by elevation, get snared, get rooted, get CC'd, die to ground effects, and so on.

I play Necro almost exclusively now simply because it is so funky compared to Templar and stamsorc. When it works it hits like a hammer, but the mechanics of the class introduce so much randomness, it can be super inconsistent and frustrating.

Iskiab

ThePedge wrote: »

Iskiab wrote: »

Where did all the sorcs go?

Things haven’t changed that much for NBs in the past half year, but it used to be a thread like this would be piled on with sorcs asking for buffs for sorcs and more NB nerfs. This is freaking me out!

Conveniently all swapped to MagPlar last patch

So did I from magblade, so can’t blame people.

Magsorc’s a good class but it can suck if you’re against players who knows what they’re doing. A stamwarden premade who shimmers up and spawn camps the magsorcs taking away their maneuverability in a BG is such a hard counter.

Most magsorcs count on having people in front of them taking the enemy’s focus and fold immediately under any pressure.

In a BG the only group I dislike more then me and 3 NBs is me and 3 magsorcs.

mursie

S TIer Magsorc
A Tier Magden Stamden StamDK Magcro
B Tier Magplar MagDK Stamplar Stamsorc Stamblade StamCro
C Tier Magblade

PhoenixGrey

Iskiab wrote: »

Where did all the sorcs go?

Things haven’t changed that much for NBs in the past half year, but it used to be a thread like this would be piled on with sorcs asking for buffs for sorcs and more NB nerfs. This is freaking me out!

All decent NA mag sorcs except for one have left this game. What we are left with now are fury spammers in bgs.

WildRaptorX

Mag DK IMO

khajiitNPC

Lol, all classes are great — really depends on how you play and who against. Player skill will attribute more to it than class. Also if you’re playing groups that adds a whole different playing field. I think anyone posting “best pvp class” have a very small window into the world, they might even PvP everyday — but that doesn’t mean they are exposed to every solo or group composition.

While some classes do function better at certain things, for the most part all classes have a nice tool kit (or similar tool kits), so...get gud?

Ragnarock41

Xvorg wrote: »

phoenixkungfu wrote: »

All classes are amazing in their own way. What I think needs help is the nerfing of playstyles. Spin to win, executor is way to effective vs class executes. Staff skill line should have a execute. Target damage different from nearby damage should be removed from the game. No classes that is last pick in any role shouldn't be 1 pick in another.

Don't you use major evasion against templars and spin2win spammers?

Does anyone even use spin to win anymore? Its horrible, ever since they changed the execute to the short range morph. Your enemies can literally walk or dodge roll out of its range. Even dual wield main bar setups seem to be using executioner over it.

FrankonPC

Magblade is the worst for solo pvp imo. Mag dk is down there with it.

Kadoin

FrankonPC wrote: »

Magblade is the worst for solo pvp imo. Mag dk is down there with it.

That's strange, I've had the easiest time on both...with the only downsides being mag DK lacking sustain, and mag NB requiring you to wear opponents down. Two things that are not a big deal to me because I play quite differently than other players and actually do bother to heavy attack and make use of tactics, unpredictable elements, and trick play instead of a standard build relying on burst windows.

Tolino

FrankonPC wrote: »

Magblade is the worst for solo pvp imo. Mag dk is down there with it.

How could the Magblade be worse than a Magnecro?
Magnecro has no mobility and the burst tool work realy bad.

Iskiab

Tolino wrote: »

FrankonPC wrote: »

Magblade is the worst for solo pvp imo. Mag dk is down there with it.

How could the Magblade be worse than a Magnecro?
Magnecro has no mobility and the burst tool work realy bad.

Dude has a thread with rankings and whatnot depending on solo, group or small scale. Check it out:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/508090/pvp-class-ranking-isth3reno1else/p1

FrankonPC

Tolino wrote: »

How could the Magblade be worse than a Magnecro?
Magnecro has no mobility and the burst tool work realy bad.

harmony necros have the capability to nuke 5+ people immediately with one well timed burst. Magblade you have to attempt to single target everyone down.

They're equally as tanky, but magcro can recover better from lower health. They're close, and if harmony didn't exist I'd put magcro at the bottom.

BaiterOfZergs

Don’t know who’s the worst but I’m confident it’s not magdk. Basing it off personal threat level I’d go with Necros in general because I have yet to die to a single one in a 1v1 and outside of the ult they just aren’t that threatening.