Necro Blast Bones and Heem-Ja Set

Avandi

There is bug with the set heem-ja which provides major berzerk after killing a player. If the necromancers blast bones die or explode it procs Major Berzerk from that 5-piece set. I guess that shouldn't work like that.

Solariken

The description says when an "enemy" within 28 meters dies, you get the buff. Working as intended.

Avandi

So you think having Major Berzerk (25% more Damage) for 100% of the time infight is working as intended? For the necromancer it isn't really an "enemy" tbh.

Solariken

Avandi wrote: »

So you think having Major Berzerk (25% more Damage) for 100% of the time infight is working as intended? For the necromancer it isn't really an "enemy" tbh.

Wait are you saying a Necro's own pets proc this set?

Royaji

I'm pretty sure that the whole big thing with blastbones was to be considered an actual "entity" on a battlefield. So the fact that it procs Heem-Jas for someone else is intended. But it definitely shouldn't proc it for the caster.

dinokstrunz

presume you mean some enemy Necromancers blastbones is proccing the Major Berserk on your Heem-Jas?

Valykc

Probably because of the pet AI programming. I’d say it’s a bug. I can’t see that being a thing, especially if it’s a friendly blastbones

katorga

If I fight a necro while wearing heem-jas, I get major berserk when the necro's pet dies (or a sorc pet). I don't believe I even have to damage it. It just needs to die.

I've never testing to see if my own blastbones would give me the buff. I think that is unlikely. The set is really only good for solo grinding, with tons of enemies. PVE it is a wasted set due to its low uptime during boss fights or pvp.

Royaji

katorga wrote: »

If I fight a necro while wearing heem-jas, I get major berserk when the necro's pet dies (or a sorc pet). I don't believe I even have to damage it. It just needs to die.

I've never testing to see if my own blastbones would give me the buff. I think that is unlikely.

"(5 items) When you are within 28 meters of an enemy you are in combat with, and the enemy dies, you gain Major Berserk for 5 seconds, increasing your damage done by 25%."

You are withthin 28 meters from them. The pet is considered "an enemy". You are in combat. And they die.

Seems like working as intended then.

NordSwordnBoard

The way Blastbones behave, you would think they are a deliberate traitor and thus an enemy. If I was happily dead, I would probably sabotage the efforts of the jerk who brought me back so he wouldn't rely on me again. "Sorry master, I never saw that pebble of immobilization...ok back to sleep."

The weird part is, do animals from a warden not proc it because they aren't humanoid? A cliff racer dies when it hits you, does that work?

Royaji

NordSwordnBoard wrote: »

The weird part is, do animals from a warden not proc it because they aren't humanoid? A cliff racer dies when it hits you, does that work?

I'd say a safe rule of thumb is to say that if you can target it, it is considered a "character" and thus an enemy and will proc Heem-Jas on dying. So the Bear should proc it. The rest of the summons are non-targetable and shouldn't proc it.

WrathOfInnos

Royaji wrote: »

katorga wrote: »

If I fight a necro while wearing heem-jas, I get major berserk when the necro's pet dies (or a sorc pet). I don't believe I even have to damage it. It just needs to die.

I've never testing to see if my own blastbones would give me the buff. I think that is unlikely.

"(5 items) When you are within 28 meters of an enemy you are in combat with, and the enemy dies, you gain Major Berserk for 5 seconds, increasing your damage done by 25%."

You are withthin 28 meters from them. The pet is considered "an enemy". You are in combat. And they die.

Seems like working as intended then.

What is dead may never die.

Royaji

WrathOfInnos wrote: »

Royaji wrote: »

katorga wrote: »

If I fight a necro while wearing heem-jas, I get major berserk when the necro's pet dies (or a sorc pet). I don't believe I even have to damage it. It just needs to die.

I've never testing to see if my own blastbones would give me the buff. I think that is unlikely.

"(5 items) When you are within 28 meters of an enemy you are in combat with, and the enemy dies, you gain Major Berserk for 5 seconds, increasing your damage done by 25%."

You are withthin 28 meters from them. The pet is considered "an enemy". You are in combat. And they die.

Seems like working as intended then.

What is dead may never die.

So like ESO?

Konstant_Tel_Necris

ZOS changed Necromancer set to especially proc from any deaths around to

When you are within 28 meters of an enemy you are in combat with, and the enemy dies, you heal for 1667 Health and gain 1667 Magicka. This effect can occur once every 3 seconds.

Perhaps because necromancer fodder pets mechanics would give stream of resources back to caster, too bad actually it's would fit necromancer theme and be good magical alternative to Hunt Leader Set what have better numbers and proc conditions.

And now this, why stamina always have best toys?

Wing

honestly I just checked this out and really don't care.

maybe there is some world were weaving in blastbones constantly is effective or something. but so many of the necro corpse skills are just so un fun and clunky it could be a 40% damage bonus and I would not care.

Ankael07

Its not working as intended because Reaper's Mark used to give Major Berserk when you cast it on a Blastbone and that was changed.

Konstant_Tel_Necris

Wing wrote: »

honestly I just checked this out and really don't care.

maybe there is some world were weaving in blastbones constantly is effective or something. but so many of the necro corpse skills are just so un fun and clunky it could be a 40% damage bonus and I would not care.

To clarify Heem-Ja Set does not proc self from death of own pets, I checked it in game so there is no bugs



So OP must be complained that Heem-Ja buff enemy like Reaper's Mark done it before, but I need another necro player to test this.

Ankael07

Just done testing this with a friend and apparently it procs from your own Blastbone too. The skeleton just needs to be damaged somehow (doesnt even need to be killed by the enemy) and it procs.

Gonna be fun dealing with stam necros who can stack minor and major defile from 28 meters and have 100% uptime on Major Berserk

Zelos

No hes right, the set works fine. If 100% uptime is too unbalanced there is no bug that needs to be fixed it's a balance issue. Change the conditions of the set.

Qbiken

Ankael07 wrote: »

Just done testing this with a friend and apparently it procs from your own Blastbone too. The skeleton just needs to be damaged somehow (doesnt even need to be killed by the enemy) and it procs.

Gonna be fun dealing with stam necros who can stack minor and major defile from 28 meters and have 100% uptime on Major Berserk

Heem Jaas doesn't proc from your own blastbones. Took me and @Dinokstrun a few duels to debunk this (unless some wierd extra condition is involved that I'm unaware off)

Ankael07

Qbiken wrote: »

Ankael07 wrote: »

Just done testing this with a friend and apparently it procs from your own Blastbone too. The skeleton just needs to be damaged somehow (doesnt even need to be killed by the enemy) and it procs.

Gonna be fun dealing with stam necros who can stack minor and major defile from 28 meters and have 100% uptime on Major Berserk

Heem Jaas doesn't proc from your own blastbones. Took me and @Dinokstrun a few duels to debunk this (unless some wierd extra condition is involved that I'm unaware off)

@Qbiken Just damage the set owner's Blastbones and let it explode. Any kind of damage works

Ankael07

Just letting you people know that the max range of the set isnt working either. Your group can be defending a keep and you'd get the buff without even being inside the defense tick range.