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Why Zaan do so much dmg??

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Joinovikova
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There is no reason for somuch dmg
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  • Salvas_Aren
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    Joinovikova wrote: »
    There is no reason for somuch dmg

    How dare you say that? Only developing plebs can say something that nonsense. :trollface:
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  • Joinovikova
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    CleymenZero wrote: »
    Joinovikova wrote: »
    There is no reason for somuch dmg

    Move 8m away from enemy and it breaks the tether...

    If you stand next to him and expect to be able to soak up the zaan damage plus wtv enemy is throwing at you then it is L2P.

    I started using Zaan after getting burned a few times by this mag blade.

    It's very simple, that monster set applies so much pressure on the enemy so that you force him into a defensive/evasive position. Your heals over time can top you up in the meantime and you can just go all out on the enemy.

    I don't even need the Zaan damage to kill, I just need it to force the enemy to switch from all out attack to healing himself.

    THIS IS NOT working he/she was able to keep Zaan on me evenI use 2 streaks .. still get zaan but my question is quite diffrenet why the set has to much dmg..
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  • CleymenZero
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Joinovikova wrote: »
    CleymenZero wrote: »
    Joinovikova wrote: »
    There is no reason for somuch dmg

    Move 8m away from enemy and it breaks the tether...

    If you stand next to him and expect to be able to soak up the zaan damage plus wtv enemy is throwing at you then it is L2P.

    I started using Zaan after getting burned a few times by this mag blade.

    It's very simple, that monster set applies so much pressure on the enemy so that you force him into a defensive/evasive position. Your heals over time can top you up in the meantime and you can just go all out on the enemy.

    I don't even need the Zaan damage to kill, I just need it to force the enemy to switch from all out attack to healing himself.

    THIS IS NOT working he/she was able to keep Zaan on me evenI use 2 streaks .. still get zaan but my question is quite diffrenet why the set has to much dmg..

    Single target dps from a difficult dungeon. Must be used in melee and can easily be broken. High risk high reward. Even then ive seen a lot of people just shrug it off. Since youre a sorc, just spam your ward or block mitigate it.

    Yeah, honestly, I just shrug it off on magdk and magsorc. Not wasting stam on running away.
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    MellowMagic wrote: »
    Zaan with elf bane?

    This on a Templar
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  • CleymenZero
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    Joinovikova wrote: »
    CleymenZero wrote: »
    Joinovikova wrote: »
    There is no reason for somuch dmg

    Move 8m away from enemy and it breaks the tether...

    If you stand next to him and expect to be able to soak up the zaan damage plus wtv enemy is throwing at you then it is L2P.

    I started using Zaan after getting burned a few times by this mag blade.

    It's very simple, that monster set applies so much pressure on the enemy so that you force him into a defensive/evasive position. Your heals over time can top you up in the meantime and you can just go all out on the enemy.

    I don't even need the Zaan damage to kill, I just need it to force the enemy to switch from all out attack to healing himself.

    THIS IS NOT working he/she was able to keep Zaan on me evenI use 2 streaks .. still get zaan but my question is quite diffrenet why the set has to much dmg..

    1st: you definitely break it with streak, if you were very close and you streaked towards him, you'll need another streak to break the tether.

    2nd: Your question is NOT different, you just don't understand the angle I'm going for. It has everything to do with your question because if you successfully break the beam, it does 0 damage... Now do you agree that 0 damage is not too much?
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  • Joinovikova
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Joinovikova wrote: »
    CleymenZero wrote: »
    Joinovikova wrote: »
    There is no reason for somuch dmg

    Move 8m away from enemy and it breaks the tether...

    If you stand next to him and expect to be able to soak up the zaan damage plus wtv enemy is throwing at you then it is L2P.

    I started using Zaan after getting burned a few times by this mag blade.

    It's very simple, that monster set applies so much pressure on the enemy so that you force him into a defensive/evasive position. Your heals over time can top you up in the meantime and you can just go all out on the enemy.

    I don't even need the Zaan damage to kill, I just need it to force the enemy to switch from all out attack to healing himself.

    THIS IS NOT working he/she was able to keep Zaan on me evenI use 2 streaks .. still get zaan but my question is quite diffrenet why the set has to much dmg..

    Single target dps from a difficult dungeon. Must be used in melee and can easily be broken. High risk high reward. Even then ive seen a lot of people just shrug it off. Since youre a sorc, just spam your ward or block mitigate it.

    No risk in especially is bugged like this and do not stop after you gain distance. The dungeon is easy. The set just broke balance in already broke game like this. It’s really stupis game if zaan deal more dmg then leap...
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    MellowMagic wrote: »
    Zaan with elf bane?

    Definitely not worth it. You lose an entire 5 piece bonus to boost Zaan. Elf's Jane doesn't help with heals etc.
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    CleymenZero wrote: »
    Joinovikova wrote: »
    CleymenZero wrote: »
    Joinovikova wrote: »
    There is no reason for somuch dmg

    Move 8m away from enemy and it breaks the tether...

    If you stand next to him and expect to be able to soak up the zaan damage plus wtv enemy is throwing at you then it is L2P.

    I started using Zaan after getting burned a few times by this mag blade.

    It's very simple, that monster set applies so much pressure on the enemy so that you force him into a defensive/evasive position. Your heals over time can top you up in the meantime and you can just go all out on the enemy.

    I don't even need the Zaan damage to kill, I just need it to force the enemy to switch from all out attack to healing himself.

    THIS IS NOT working he/she was able to keep Zaan on me evenI use 2 streaks .. still get zaan but my question is quite diffrenet why the set has to much dmg..

    1st: you definitely break it with streak, if you were very close and you streaked towards him, you'll need another streak to break the tether.

    2nd: Your question is NOT different, you just don't understand the angle I'm going for. It has everything to do with your question because if you successfully break the beam, it does 0 damage... Now do you agree that 0 damage is not too much?

    No I didnt ecen I hav 2full streak from him (at least 20y distance), may the player find why how to exploit it or Streak not working properly again. but why ZOS broek balance with suchg sets? is tehre amny ontehr monester sets which has similliar dmg? no so why is so op... same *** like sloan no skill no iq nothing required just proc set and your dmg is doubled.. may is time to go back to WOW
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  • MellowMagic
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    CleymenZero wrote: »
    MellowMagic wrote: »
    Zaan with elf bane?

    Definitely not worth it. You lose an entire 5 piece bonus to boost Zaan. Elf's Jane doesn't help with heals etc.

    I'm just providing a possible reason why he is seeing a high damage tick since it can hit pretty hard if u somehow let it tick that 7th time, not advocating that set up.
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    >:)

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    MellowMagic wrote: »
    CleymenZero wrote: »
    MellowMagic wrote: »
    Zaan with elf bane?

    Definitely not worth it. You lose an entire 5 piece bonus to boost Zaan. Elf's Jane doesn't help with heals etc.

    I'm just providing a possible reason why he is seeing a high damage tick since it can hit pretty hard if u somehow let it tick that 7th time, not advocating that set up.

    Ah nvm what I said then.
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  • Nyladreas
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    Daus wrote: »
    Proc sets are a bad design.

    They wouldn't be a bad design if they didn't do what they do lol.

    Aka Proc Sets are just fine, what bad design IS however, It's all about their mechanics and effectiveness.
    Edited by Nyladreas on January 11, 2020 7:37PM
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    Zaan is fine. It punishes for overconfidence. If your target runs away it doesn't mean you won, very often it might mean you are lured into position where it is hard to avoid Zaan+cc-burst.
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    What are you comparing it to? Doesn’t seem much different from other gear options.
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    Joinovikova wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Joinovikova wrote: »
    CleymenZero wrote: »
    Joinovikova wrote: »
    There is no reason for somuch dmg

    Move 8m away from enemy and it breaks the tether...

    If you stand next to him and expect to be able to soak up the zaan damage plus wtv enemy is throwing at you then it is L2P.

    I started using Zaan after getting burned a few times by this mag blade.

    It's very simple, that monster set applies so much pressure on the enemy so that you force him into a defensive/evasive position. Your heals over time can top you up in the meantime and you can just go all out on the enemy.

    I don't even need the Zaan damage to kill, I just need it to force the enemy to switch from all out attack to healing himself.

    THIS IS NOT working he/she was able to keep Zaan on me evenI use 2 streaks .. still get zaan but my question is quite diffrenet why the set has to much dmg..

    Single target dps from a difficult dungeon. Must be used in melee and can easily be broken. High risk high reward. Even then ive seen a lot of people just shrug it off. Since youre a sorc, just spam your ward or block mitigate it.

    No risk in especially is bugged like this and do not stop after you gain distance. The dungeon is easy. The set just broke balance in already broke game like this. It’s really stupis game if zaan deal more dmg then leap...

    How come no one is using this set if it's so OP.
    Literally, only magWardes in BGs are using them.
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    I’ve tried Zaan in PVP and BGs on my mDK - it’s not a strong set really.

    The other player has to pretty much stand there for a strong effect. And almost no one does lol.
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    ku5h wrote: »
    Daus wrote: »
    Proc sets are a bad design.

    Old instant proc sets with no counter were bad.
    Zaan is actually great design.


    Not really, Zaan is currently one of the few top-tier (offensive) proc sets in this game along with Caluurion and Velidreth. A magdk can stun you when Zaan procs, Caluurion is very effective for magblades, and Velidreth doesn't have an apparent visual cue.

    -Auroran's Thunder and Grothdarr are good in No-CP.

    Selene works about 25% of the time- when the opponent is out of stamina, Nerien'eth looks good for Lich build but never hits, Stormfist never gets off it's second (burst) hit, Tremorscale does garbage damage and is attached to a horrible/heavily nerfed killl (on top of being easy to avoid,) Skoria has a big visual cue- similar to Meteor (garbage ult unless you're a sorc,)
    -I'm not even going to bother with the rest. Point is, most (offensive) proc sets are now completely useless in fights, and one of the reasons why almost everyone uses Bloodspawn/Troll King.

    They need to reduce the "build up" time by 50% for them to be even close to viable.
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    JamieAubrey wrote: »
    MellowMagic wrote: »
    Zaan with elf bane?

    This on a Templar

    Did it a couple of patches ago and tuned the single target DOT damage
    The last dot was 54k
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    Sorry OP but this is your L2P issue, many things are not balanced in this game but zaan is fine.
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    Canned_Apples wrote: »
    ***5h wrote: »
    Daus wrote: »
    Proc sets are a bad design.

    Old instant proc sets with no counter were bad.
    Zaan is actually great design.


    Not really, Zaan is currently one of the few top-tier (offensive) proc sets in this game along with Caluurion and Velidreth. A magdk can stun you when Zaan procs, Caluurion is very effective for magblades, and Velidreth doesn't have an apparent visual cue.

    -Auroran's Thunder and Grothdarr are good in No-CP.

    Selene works about 25% of the time- when the opponent is out of stamina, Nerien'eth looks good for Lich build but never hits, Stormfist never gets off it's second (burst) hit, Tremorscale does garbage damage and is attached to a horrible/heavily nerfed killl (on top of being easy to avoid,) Skoria has a big visual cue- similar to Meteor (garbage ult unless you're a sorc,)
    -I'm not even going to bother with the rest. Point is, most (offensive) proc sets are now completely useless in fights, and one of the reasons why almost everyone uses Bloodspawn/Troll King.

    They need to reduce the "build up" time by 50% for them to be even close to viable.

    No, free damage is a terrible design. No one should get free damage from proc sets. If it were up to me I would change them entirely. Proc sets just lower the skill ceiling in this game.
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