Battlegrounds are broken, no response, no fix in sight.

iCaliban

This is how the game started

this is halfway through the game

this is how it ended, after nearly 15 minutes


Games like this are TYPICAL since the supposed fixes went into place well over a month ago. There has been zero communication about this issue. For those who arent intimately aware, battlegrounds are not filling games properly, or replacing members who leave.

TheUndeadAmulet

From what I've seen in the battlegrounds forums, this is a real serious issue that ZOS is very much ignoring.

iCaliban

TheUndeadAmulet wrote: »

From what I've seen in the battlegrounds forums, this is a real serious issue that ZOS is very much ignoring.

I first brought up this issue well over a month ago, and havent had any sort of feedback in regards to it.

Wheresthetea11

oh wow I just que’d for a bg while reading this thread. 1v3v4

ImSoPro

Green got WAXED 😭 dude went 0-10 lmao. But I’m hoping this along with a lot of other performance related problems gets addressed in the q1 update

KageNin

/leavegroup, wait 5 mins go again, till the fix it next year I guess

Somewhere

The group finder isn't even attempting to fill matches once they've begun. This actually leads to longer queue times. Realistically 3 people could have been put in there, but they had to wait in queue forever too.

I will remain hopeful that this is simply because of the holidays, but it really needs to get fixed fast. I am so tired of every match being at best, 4v3v3 or 4v4v3.

JobooAGS

This is getting really stupid. Once I was in a match when it was 4v4v2 for the whole match granted one person on one of the 4s left due to some toxicity on the other team with 4, but still, NO effort was made on adding more peeps to the match.

iCaliban

JobooAGS wrote: »

This is getting really stupid. Once I was in a match when it was 4v4v2 for the whole match granted one person on one of the 4s left due to some toxicity on the other team with 4, but still, NO effort was made on adding more peeps to the match.

Its getting worse by the day, added to the fact that there is no penalty for quitting....

KageNin wrote: »

/leavegroup, wait 5 mins go again, till the fix it next year I guess

This is not a solution for high mmr players. I waited 15 minutes to get into this lovely match. So 15+5 penalty + another 15 minute wait, 1 match ever 35 minutes is reasonable?

Skoomah

Not sure why ZOS can’t afford to buy a working group finder... BG queues haven’t been working right since 2017. That’s 3 years to get it together...

Darkmage1337

Wouldn't it be nice if ZOS's New Year's Resolution was to fix the Battlegrounds/Activity Finder once and for all?
I mean, it's not like the Activity Finder feature is one of the most essential tools to properly running any healthy modern MMORPG these days or anything.

Rezdayn

Oh yes... fun memories...



I had this exact thing happen to me a lot while I was finishing my achievements and goals in BG's. It also started and finished that way a lot of the time.

I cant lie though... Its not the only issue in BG's. You can really cheese your builds and speed up the goals and achievements you have set for yourself... One example was "capture the relic" and "chaos ball"... I just made a full speed, full defense build with cloak and could finish a "capture the relic" game for example in a couple of minutes...



I get it... you cant stop the cheese and some people enjoy the cheese or queuing up in a group of four to beat randoms who probably wont even say hi to each other but I personally felt gross just cheesing victories...

In the end though... I got really bored of BG's and wanted the achievements asap so I could never go back...

Another thread posted recently shows a team with like 40 people on it because of a bug... hilarious tbh.

MajBludd

Zos ignoring issues with pvp content, no way..

FierceSam

They can’t begin to fix BGs until they’ve fixed the group finder for dungeons (where all it’s doing is matching Tank, Dd and Heals). If they can’t do that they’ve got no chance of fixing BGs.

Right now they are clearly in Ostrich mode, heads buried firmly in the sand going”la la la” to themselves and pretending nothing is wrong.

Don’t expect any action any time soon. You’re more likely to get Rich to copy paste his annual mea culpa must try harder letter at the end of the year than a fix for BGs.

Major_Lag

Somewhere wrote: »

The group finder isn't even attempting to fill matches once they've begun. This actually leads to longer queue times. Realistically 3 people could have been put in there, but they had to wait in queue forever too.

The exact same thing is happening with dungeons, as well:
Once someone leaves, or gets kicked, you are NEVER getting any replacements. EVER. At least, that's what my experience has been in the recent weeks.

There's something fundamentally broken at play - since we all know that dungeon DD queues are usually super long, but at the same time there are no DDs available at all to replace the one that left.
Never mind the issues with tank queue... when it bugs out, you can queue solo as tank and wait till you turn blue, sitting in the queue like a lemon, for hours and hours on end.

iCaliban

Major_Lag wrote: »

Somewhere wrote: »

The group finder isn't even attempting to fill matches once they've begun. This actually leads to longer queue times. Realistically 3 people could have been put in there, but they had to wait in queue forever too.

The exact same thing is happening with dungeons, as well:
Once someone leaves, or gets kicked, you are NEVER getting any replacements. EVER. At least, that's what my experience has been in the recent weeks.

There's something fundamentally broken at play - since we all know that dungeon DD queues are usually super long, but at the same time there are no DDs available at all to replace the one that left.
Never mind the issues with tank queue... when it bugs out, you can queue solo as tank and wait till you turn blue, sitting in the queue like a lemon, for hours and hours on end.

Interesting, I havent used the pve dungeon finder in a long time, wasnt sure if this issue was there as well. Thanks for the info.

Seems clear the group finder is broken in totality.

Donny_Vito

All this naming and shaming!

Poor guy that went 0-10 is hating this thread...

Mancombe_Nosehair

Donny_Vito wrote: »

All this naming and shaming!

Poor guy that went 0-10 is hating this thread...

I've done worse 😮

ChunkyCat

you tell ‘em, iCaliban!

eovogtb16_ESO

They ignore literally every single major issue. unless it interferes somehow with their sales they don't care about their customers. And thier communication shows that. It been like this for five years and is the way on every zenimax/Bethesda title. Customer service is generally excellent but the communication between the devs and community is the worst out of any games around.

Highlands

+1. Picture 1 is the beginning of the game, picture 2 is the end of the game. (2 minutes left)

Highlands

Highlands wrote: »

+1. Picture 1 is the beginning of the game, picture 2 is the end of the game. (2 minutes left)

Sorry, first image was the wrong game. Not that it matters. Just another game that started 3v4v4. Which for anybody that doesn't frequent Battlegrounds, is almost always a loss if you are playing against good players. (High MMR)

nukynukerton

I feel it should be emphasized that it's not just starting matches with too few players/uneven teams (i understand people dc/crash/leave/whatever, it happens), but that it will NEVER EVER FILL ANY SLOTS EVER once the match is in progress.

I remember open spots on teams (in matches in progress) getting filled regularly back before the last few changes to bgs/matchmaking were made.

I guess this game launched around the perfect time. No way we'd still be here if there were any competition whatsoever that isn't some Asian grindy trash. I don't like to be overly negative towards devs, etc. but how would you feel about the quality of your/your team's work knowing what's happening for the end users/customers in these scenarios?

Keep in mind this is coming from a player/Elder Scrolls fan that loves that this game even exists.

iCaliban

I understand that we are just coming off a holiday, a response at some point would be appreciated.

ChunkyCat

They won’t even look at it until the next PTS patch cycle.

iCaliban

ChunkyCat wrote: »

They won’t even look at it until the next PTS patch cycle.

I sincerely hope not, but if so, at least the new pts should be soon? No idea tbh

Alienoutlaw

changes are coming with the re-code, all we can do is wait for then, no point them "fixing" something until then

iCaliban

Alienoutlaw wrote: »

changes are coming with the re-code, all we can do is wait for then, no point them "fixing" something until then

This patch was supposed to be the "recode"

Sanguinor2

iCaliban wrote: »

This patch was supposed to be the "recode"

If Memory serves a recode of many Things of the game is due to happen this year.
Doesnt mean something will Change tho since Group finder was supposed to work flawlessly with the Group finder update months ago and yet here we are...

Donny_Vito

Highlands wrote: »

Highlands wrote: »

+1. Picture 1 is the beginning of the game, picture 2 is the end of the game. (2 minutes left)

Sorry, first image was the wrong game. Not that it matters. Just another game that started 3v4v4. Which for anybody that doesn't frequent Battlegrounds, is almost always a loss if you are playing against good players. (High MMR)

Okay, that makes a little more sense. I thought the game had put you on another team while playing, which would be somewhat amazing.

Anotherone773

Rich says "We are killing IT!"...

...

...TAG! Your IT!


I have not had the number imbalance yet, but to be fair i dont do a lot of BGs the last couple of months. But my last match(4V4V4) my team had 500 in with 3 min left, another team had 160, and another had 20 in death match. I am not great at pvp and that character was not finished gear or skill wise. 2 of my mates were better than me but not by a lot and 1 was about equal.

Yet the teams were so out of balance and they were trying. one team harder than the other. The matching system is horrible in BGs when it works correctly. So you almost always end up on a lopsided match even when you get a full match. I use to do 2-4 BGs a night most nights. Now i do maybe 2-4 a month.