Question about Craglorn

CMDR_Un1k0rn

I've been following the fantastic guide by @VaranisArano on the chronological order of zone storylines, and it's made for a very enjoyable game.

I'm not quite close to completing Cadwell's Gold.

So I'm obviously looking beyond the zones that were there since day one now.

My question about Craglorn is this: Is the main story in the zone a solo questline or will I need to find a group? The history of this zone as far as gameplay is concerned leaves me confused, and I only joined ESO PC at the start of the year.

Any help would be most appreciated, and thank you.

Royaji

Since One Tamriel Craglorn is your average overland zone faceroll. You can solo the whole thing.

SidraWillowsky

It's intended to be played in groups but is solo-able with the right setups. I don't think I could complete some of the stuff on a stamina character (Elinhir or the school of warriors, for example), but I've done all Craglorn content on my magden. If things get especially challenging, I'll switch over to her vMA setup which is focused on survivability vs. maximized DPS output.

CMDR_Un1k0rn

Royaji wrote: »

Since One Tamriel Craglorn is your average overland zone faceroll. You can solo the whole thing.

Thank you. Like I say I was genuinely confused, so I thought a quick question couldn't hurt.

Cheers mate.

CMDR_Un1k0rn

SidraWillowsky wrote: »

It's intended to be played in groups but is solo-able with the right setups. I don't think I could complete some of the stuff on a stamina character (Elinhir or the school of warriors, for example), but I've done all Craglorn content on my magden. If things get especially challenging, I'll switch over to her vMA setup which is focused on survivability vs. maximized DPS output.

Most helpful. Thank you.

Cirantille

I did Craglorn zone story the last but if somehow feels weird.
It is not like other story zones.
It feels empty, I mean you go through every dungeon but is emptier and easier than the normal zone dungeons.
Story and acting was not very pro either.
Weird

CMDR_Un1k0rn

Cirantille wrote: »

I did Craglorn zone story the last but if somehow feels weird.
It is not like other story zones.
It feels empty, I mean you go through every dungeon but is emptier and easier than the normal zone dungeons.
Story and acting was not very pro either.
Weird

Good to know.

Thanks for the feedback.

CassandraGemini

Royaji wrote: »

Since One Tamriel Craglorn is your average overland zone faceroll. You can solo the whole thing.

That's not completely true. If you hover over the mob's hp, you'll notice that they're a bit higher than that of your average overland enemies. Normal trash mobs have around 30k hp, in Craglorn it's more like 60k I think. The same with delves, normal delve bosses have between 120k and 140k hp, in Craglorn it's like what you'd find in a public dungeon, around 200k to 300k.

If you have good gear (not trial gear or anything, just some good, matching sets, 5/5/2) and some CP, it's still easy enough, though, so no worries. Just try it

Royaji

CassandraGemini wrote: »

Royaji wrote: »

Since One Tamriel Craglorn is your average overland zone faceroll. You can solo the whole thing.

That's not completely true. If you hover over the mob's hp, you'll notice that they're a bit higher than that of your average overland enemies. Normal trash mobs have around 30k hp, in Craglorn it's more like 60k I think. The same with delves, normal delve bosses have between 120k and 140k hp, in Craglorn it's like what you'd find in a public dungeon, around 200k to 300k.

If you have good gear (not trial gear or anything, just some good, matching sets, 5/5/2) and some CP, it's still easy enough, though, so no worries. Just try it

Even if you have to roll your face over a button 5 times instead of 3 times it is still a faceroll.

CassandraGemini

Royaji wrote: »

CassandraGemini wrote: »

Royaji wrote: »

Since One Tamriel Craglorn is your average overland zone faceroll. You can solo the whole thing.

That's not completely true. If you hover over the mob's hp, you'll notice that they're a bit higher than that of your average overland enemies. Normal trash mobs have around 30k hp, in Craglorn it's more like 60k I think. The same with delves, normal delve bosses have between 120k and 140k hp, in Craglorn it's like what you'd find in a public dungeon, around 200k to 300k.

If you have good gear (not trial gear or anything, just some good, matching sets, 5/5/2) and some CP, it's still easy enough, though, so no worries. Just try it

Even if you have to roll your face over a button 5 times instead of 3 times it is still a faceroll.

Is there a good reason you're so irritable? I mean, have you considered that from what the OP wrote, they're probably not used to doing endgame - or maybe even group - content? I could be wrong of course, but it sounds like they mostly do overland, and in that case Craglorn is a bit of a step up. Don't always assume things are as easy for everyone else as they are for you.

Asardes

From my experience the only content where you need a group is the Anka-Ra burials, because it's exceedingly hard to guard all 3 sides solo. Those aren't part of the main quest, but it feels bad to leave map icons black. Everything else you can solo.

TheShadowScout

Royaji wrote: »

Since One Tamriel Craglorn is your average overland zone faceroll. You can solo the whole thing.

Yeah, the mainstories at least are all solo-ish througout the region.

Most of the lower craglorn sidequests and dwelves are still groupy, so take care!

Upper craglorn tho is all soloable (except the nirncrux mines of course, since those are sorta the "dolmen" equivalent for that place)

CMDR_Un1k0rn

CassandraGemini wrote: »

Royaji wrote: »

CassandraGemini wrote: »

Royaji wrote: »

Since One Tamriel Craglorn is your average overland zone faceroll. You can solo the whole thing.

That's not completely true. If you hover over the mob's hp, you'll notice that they're a bit higher than that of your average overland enemies. Normal trash mobs have around 30k hp, in Craglorn it's more like 60k I think. The same with delves, normal delve bosses have between 120k and 140k hp, in Craglorn it's like what you'd find in a public dungeon, around 200k to 300k.

If you have good gear (not trial gear or anything, just some good, matching sets, 5/5/2) and some CP, it's still easy enough, though, so no worries. Just try it

Even if you have to roll your face over a button 5 times instead of 3 times it is still a faceroll.

Is there a good reason you're so irritable? I mean, have you considered that from what the OP wrote, they're probably not used to doing endgame - or maybe even group - content? I could be wrong of course, but it sounds like they mostly do overland, and in that case Craglorn is a bit of a step up. Don't always assume things are as easy for everyone else as they are for you.

I mean I've done plenty of dungeons, both vet and norm, base game and DLC, along with a fair few Trials. The Casual Rascals guild on PC EU have been fantastic with me.

With that said, I asked this question today because I had no idea about how Craglorn scaled compared to everything else. Apart from Belkarth for traders, I've never set foot there.

Daft as it sounds I was partially thinking that Craglorn enemies were Trial-level.

CassandraGemini

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

CassandraGemini wrote: »

Royaji wrote: »

CassandraGemini wrote: »

Royaji wrote: »

Since One Tamriel Craglorn is your average overland zone faceroll. You can solo the whole thing.

That's not completely true. If you hover over the mob's hp, you'll notice that they're a bit higher than that of your average overland enemies. Normal trash mobs have around 30k hp, in Craglorn it's more like 60k I think. The same with delves, normal delve bosses have between 120k and 140k hp, in Craglorn it's like what you'd find in a public dungeon, around 200k to 300k.

If you have good gear (not trial gear or anything, just some good, matching sets, 5/5/2) and some CP, it's still easy enough, though, so no worries. Just try it

Even if you have to roll your face over a button 5 times instead of 3 times it is still a faceroll.

Is there a good reason you're so irritable? I mean, have you considered that from what the OP wrote, they're probably not used to doing endgame - or maybe even group - content? I could be wrong of course, but it sounds like they mostly do overland, and in that case Craglorn is a bit of a step up. Don't always assume things are as easy for everyone else as they are for you.

I mean I've done plenty of dungeons, both vet and norm, base game and DLC, along with a fair few Trials. The Casual Rascals guild on PC EU have been fantastic with me.

With that said, I asked this question today because I had no idea about how Craglorn scaled compared to everything else. Apart from Belkarth for traders, I've never set foot there.

Daft as it sounds I was partially thinking that Craglorn enemies were Trial-level.

Ah, okay. Yeah, no, they're definitely not Trial-level, just some slightly stronger mobs than normal, that's it. If you've done all this content (especially vet DLC, I have only done those a few times, always with guildies, never PUGs, and find them pretty hard, but I didn't have trouble soloing Craglorn, except for one or two side-areas), you should have no problems whatsoever.

CMDR_Un1k0rn

CassandraGemini wrote: »

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

CassandraGemini wrote: »

Royaji wrote: »

CassandraGemini wrote: »

Royaji wrote: »

Since One Tamriel Craglorn is your average overland zone faceroll. You can solo the whole thing.

That's not completely true. If you hover over the mob's hp, you'll notice that they're a bit higher than that of your average overland enemies. Normal trash mobs have around 30k hp, in Craglorn it's more like 60k I think. The same with delves, normal delve bosses have between 120k and 140k hp, in Craglorn it's like what you'd find in a public dungeon, around 200k to 300k.

If you have good gear (not trial gear or anything, just some good, matching sets, 5/5/2) and some CP, it's still easy enough, though, so no worries. Just try it

Even if you have to roll your face over a button 5 times instead of 3 times it is still a faceroll.

Is there a good reason you're so irritable? I mean, have you considered that from what the OP wrote, they're probably not used to doing endgame - or maybe even group - content? I could be wrong of course, but it sounds like they mostly do overland, and in that case Craglorn is a bit of a step up. Don't always assume things are as easy for everyone else as they are for you.

I mean I've done plenty of dungeons, both vet and norm, base game and DLC, along with a fair few Trials. The Casual Rascals guild on PC EU have been fantastic with me.

With that said, I asked this question today because I had no idea about how Craglorn scaled compared to everything else. Apart from Belkarth for traders, I've never set foot there.

Daft as it sounds I was partially thinking that Craglorn enemies were Trial-level.

Ah, okay. Yeah, no, they're definitely not Trial-level, just some slightly stronger mobs than normal, that's it. If you've done all this content (especially vet DLC, I have only done those a few times, always with guildies, never PUGs, and find them pretty hard, but I didn't have trouble soloing Craglorn, except for one or two side-areas), you should have no problems whatsoever.

Thank you. I really appreciate it dude.

Royaji

CassandraGemini wrote: »

Royaji wrote: »

CassandraGemini wrote: »

Royaji wrote: »

Since One Tamriel Craglorn is your average overland zone faceroll. You can solo the whole thing.

That's not completely true. If you hover over the mob's hp, you'll notice that they're a bit higher than that of your average overland enemies. Normal trash mobs have around 30k hp, in Craglorn it's more like 60k I think. The same with delves, normal delve bosses have between 120k and 140k hp, in Craglorn it's like what you'd find in a public dungeon, around 200k to 300k.

If you have good gear (not trial gear or anything, just some good, matching sets, 5/5/2) and some CP, it's still easy enough, though, so no worries. Just try it

Even if you have to roll your face over a button 5 times instead of 3 times it is still a faceroll.

Is there a good reason you're so irritable? I mean, have you considered that from what the OP wrote, they're probably not used to doing endgame - or maybe even group - content? I could be wrong of course, but it sounds like they mostly do overland, and in that case Craglorn is a bit of a step up. Don't always assume things are as easy for everyone else as they are for you.

Overland poses minimal challenge regardless of your experience. First you will be carried by inflated stats, then by CP. Craglorn might be a step up but both steps are at the bottom of such a deep hole that it doesn't really matter.

I'm just stating objective facts. You are the one who is (incorrectly, if I may mention) assuming something about others and their playstyle.

Raudgrani

Craglorn used to be pretty hard. Remember when me, a friend and his wife (ok, she's a friend too hehe...) spent better part of a weekend doing everything except the trials there. It was pretty darn hard, and we wiped several times in several places. Wasn't max CP back then either, but now I can easily solo all of it on any of my toons, except healer and tank perhaps (would take forever, basically).

It was originally meant to be group content alright, but it's not nearly necessary if you have a chunk of CP and decent gear. Sometimes I miss how hard it was when I started playing... :-)

Asardes

SidraWillowsky wrote: »

It's intended to be played in groups but is solo-able with the right setups. I don't think I could complete some of the stuff on a stamina character (Elinhir or the school of warriors, for example), but I've done all Craglorn content on my magden. If things get especially challenging, I'll switch over to her vMA setup which is focused on survivability vs. maximized DPS output.

Elinhir is quite easy, albeit tedious because of the large number of mobs in the yard. I actually find Shada's Tear the hardest content in Craglorn, especially the end fight - those ranged adds on the platforms hit really hard. I've soloed all content there on both stamina classes, and 4/5 magicka and I actually find stamina easier, because it has better burst and better break free. Will do Magicka Necro in a couple of months to complete the set

VaranisArano

The quests that ZOS thinks require a group will have the + symbol attached.

Whether or not you actually need a group depends on your build and how comfortable you are with fighting large waves of mobs solo. If you want to test it out, I'd head out of Belkarth to the Spellscar area and fight a few of the atronach/spellfiend mobs. If that feels comfortable or easy, you'll probably do fine on the group quests. If not, you may want to group up.

CassandraGemini

Royaji wrote: »

CassandraGemini wrote: »

Royaji wrote: »

CassandraGemini wrote: »

Royaji wrote: »

Since One Tamriel Craglorn is your average overland zone faceroll. You can solo the whole thing.

That's not completely true. If you hover over the mob's hp, you'll notice that they're a bit higher than that of your average overland enemies. Normal trash mobs have around 30k hp, in Craglorn it's more like 60k I think. The same with delves, normal delve bosses have between 120k and 140k hp, in Craglorn it's like what you'd find in a public dungeon, around 200k to 300k.

If you have good gear (not trial gear or anything, just some good, matching sets, 5/5/2) and some CP, it's still easy enough, though, so no worries. Just try it

Even if you have to roll your face over a button 5 times instead of 3 times it is still a faceroll.

Is there a good reason you're so irritable? I mean, have you considered that from what the OP wrote, they're probably not used to doing endgame - or maybe even group - content? I could be wrong of course, but it sounds like they mostly do overland, and in that case Craglorn is a bit of a step up. Don't always assume things are as easy for everyone else as they are for you.

Overland poses minimal challenge regardless of your experience. First you will be carried by inflated stats, then by CP. Craglorn might be a step up but both steps are at the bottom of such a deep hole that it doesn't really matter.

I'm just stating objective facts. You are the one who is (incorrectly, if I may mention) assuming something about others and their playstyle.

Gee, dude, really, did you ever look at how passive-aggressive you come across? What did I ever do to you, except daring to - rightfully so, if I may mention - correct something you said, because it is factually not true, since the mobs do have higher hp and hit a bit harder.
Yes, I wrongly assumed something, but I did say that I could be wrong, and it is always safer to assume a lower level of abilities than a higher one. Trust me, I've seen people die in overland to a group of skeevers, if you send someone like that into Craglorn (and by OP's post there was no way I could make a better assumption of their abilities), saying it's just "a faceroll", they'll find themselves dying pretty soon and repeatedly, wondering why they can't do content that other people obviously just "faceroll" no problem. Now it turns out, OP knows what they're doing, so all the better, they won't have trouble at all.

validifyedneb18_ESO

craglorn is easy enough to solo if you actually have a build.
The world bosses can be quite hard though, you just need more heads, cant be everywhere at once.

Commancho

While delves and quests are ezy pzy on strong builds, some wb and especially psijic portals can be a pain in the as...

SidraWillowsky

Royaji wrote: »

CassandraGemini wrote: »

Royaji wrote: »

CassandraGemini wrote: »

Royaji wrote: »

Since One Tamriel Craglorn is your average overland zone faceroll. You can solo the whole thing.

That's not completely true. If you hover over the mob's hp, you'll notice that they're a bit higher than that of your average overland enemies. Normal trash mobs have around 30k hp, in Craglorn it's more like 60k I think. The same with delves, normal delve bosses have between 120k and 140k hp, in Craglorn it's like what you'd find in a public dungeon, around 200k to 300k.

If you have good gear (not trial gear or anything, just some good, matching sets, 5/5/2) and some CP, it's still easy enough, though, so no worries. Just try it

Even if you have to roll your face over a button 5 times instead of 3 times it is still a faceroll.

Is there a good reason you're so irritable? I mean, have you considered that from what the OP wrote, they're probably not used to doing endgame - or maybe even group - content? I could be wrong of course, but it sounds like they mostly do overland, and in that case Craglorn is a bit of a step up. Don't always assume things are as easy for everyone else as they are for you.

Overland poses minimal challenge regardless of your experience. First you will be carried by inflated stats, then by CP. Craglorn might be a step up but both steps are at the bottom of such a deep hole that it doesn't really matter.

I'm just stating objective facts. You are the one who is (incorrectly, if I may mention) assuming something about others and their playstyle.

"It's a faceroll" is not even close to an objective statement though. That statement is a bit ridiculous. I don't think that most people would agree that it's as easy as you're saying it is. Don't get me wrong- I believe that it's a faceroll for YOU. But the majority of the playerbase (myself included)? No.