Any hope of MMR ever getting fixed?

Maryjane832

Please fix MMR. Its ruining the game for those that PVP. Get rid of grouping in BGs all together. Set up tournaments for 2v2 and 4v4. This can't possible be that hard.

precambria

There is not many actual groups out there, people always just say "premade" as a reason why they got roflstomped because the queue system put some of the stronger people who teamplay in with people doing their daily, or if there is a healer people will just naturally stack and look like an organized group. There is more "premade" groups of people who are inexperienced than there is of legit pvpers who typically duo, I love it when cyrodil zerglings or pvers Q for bgs as a group makes me feel like I am good at this game to kill them all at once.

Qbiken

The only fix mmr needs is the removal of it itself. With high mmr you're forced to sit in 10-15 minute queues just for a deathmatch, only to fight the same 15-20 people you always fight. God forbid if I want to queue for a flag game or landgrab where the queue is a minimum of 15-20 minutes (assuming I'll even get a queue to pop for those matches).

And all this crying about "premades" facerolling soloqueuers is just ***. The amount of real premades in low mmr BG's is almost non existent. The majority of premades you'll find in high mmr matches. People think that they're up against premades (premade = 3-4 people queuing together) just because a team sticks together and plays well, but fail to accept that they're up against soloplayers who knows how to play as a team. In some cases a duo queueu can dominate a bg, but in my book, a duo queue is not a premade.

Get rid of the mmr system so that I don't have to wait an insane amount of time to play the bg modes I want. Anything over 5 minutes, regardless of mode is unacceptable imo.

Bashev

Qbiken wrote: »

The only fix mmr needs is the removal of it itself. With high mmr you're forced to sit in 10-15 minute queues just for a deathmatch, only to fight the same 15-20 people you always fight. God forbid if I want to queue for a flag game or landgrab where the queue is a minimum of 15-20 minutes (assuming I'll even get a queue to pop for those matches).

And all this crying about "premades" facerolling soloqueuers is just ***. The amount of real premades in low mmr BG's is almost non existent. The majority of premades you'll find in high mmr matches. People think that they're up against premades (premade = 3-4 people queuing together) just because a team sticks together and plays well, but fail to accept that they're up against soloplayers who knows how to play as a team. In some cases a duo queueu can dominate a bg, but in my book, a duo queue is not a premade.

Get rid of the mmr system so that I don't have to wait an insane amount of time to play the bg modes I want. Anything over 5 minutes, regardless of mode is unacceptable imo.

LFG tool cannot handle EU at prime time. There is a waiting list that is why we have so long queues.

Qbiken

Bashev wrote: »

Qbiken wrote: »

The only fix mmr needs is the removal of it itself. With high mmr you're forced to sit in 10-15 minute queues just for a deathmatch, only to fight the same 15-20 people you always fight. God forbid if I want to queue for a flag game or landgrab where the queue is a minimum of 15-20 minutes (assuming I'll even get a queue to pop for those matches).

And all this crying about "premades" facerolling soloqueuers is just ***. The amount of real premades in low mmr BG's is almost non existent. The majority of premades you'll find in high mmr matches. People think that they're up against premades (premade = 3-4 people queuing together) just because a team sticks together and plays well, but fail to accept that they're up against soloplayers who knows how to play as a team. In some cases a duo queueu can dominate a bg, but in my book, a duo queue is not a premade.

Get rid of the mmr system so that I don't have to wait an insane amount of time to play the bg modes I want. Anything over 5 minutes, regardless of mode is unacceptable imo.

LFG tool cannot handle EU at prime time. There is a waiting list that is why we have so long queues.

That would explain alot of things......

oxygen_thief

Bashev wrote: »

Qbiken wrote: »

The only fix mmr needs is the removal of it itself. With high mmr you're forced to sit in 10-15 minute queues just for a deathmatch, only to fight the same 15-20 people you always fight. God forbid if I want to queue for a flag game or landgrab where the queue is a minimum of 15-20 minutes (assuming I'll even get a queue to pop for those matches).

And all this crying about "premades" facerolling soloqueuers is just ***. The amount of real premades in low mmr BG's is almost non existent. The majority of premades you'll find in high mmr matches. People think that they're up against premades (premade = 3-4 people queuing together) just because a team sticks together and plays well, but fail to accept that they're up against soloplayers who knows how to play as a team. In some cases a duo queueu can dominate a bg, but in my book, a duo queue is not a premade.

Get rid of the mmr system so that I don't have to wait an insane amount of time to play the bg modes I want. Anything over 5 minutes, regardless of mode is unacceptable imo.

LFG tool cannot handle EU at prime time. There is a waiting list that is why we have so long queues.

waiting list is a cause of incomplete teams

ChunkyCat

precambria wrote: »

There is more "premade" groups of people who are inexperienced than there is of legit pvpers who typically duo

we must be playing a different game

Alomar

If the past 6 years are any indication....if it's a pvp feature then no, it will not be fixed lol.

Thogard

Premades are extremely rare on PC NA

Maryjane832

Even if you're right, and I'm not saying you are, and premades are not the problem, my suggestions are still good. 2v2 and 4v4 matches and tournaments would be fun, more competitive and would fix some of the imbalances and que times.

Bashev

Maryjane832 wrote: »

Even if you're right, and I'm not saying you are, and premades are not the problem, my suggestions are still good. 2v2 and 4v4 matches and tournaments would be fun, more competitive and would fix some of the imbalances and que times.

I really doubt that 2vs2 and 4vs4 will be fun in ESO. I ve played a few 4vs4 in BGs where the third team quit and it is really clear who will win the fight after 30 seconds.

Thogard wrote: »

Premades are extremely rare on PC NA

Full premades in EU do not exist right now. Most of the players play in duos and rarely in trios

idk

precambria wrote: »

There is not many actual groups out there, people always just say "premade" as a reason why they got roflstomped because the queue system put some of the stronger people who teamplay in with people doing their daily, or if there is a healer people will just naturally stack and look like an organized group. There is more "premade" groups of people who are inexperienced than there is of legit pvpers who typically duo, I love it when cyrodil zerglings or pvers Q for bgs as a group makes me feel like I am good at this game to kill them all at once.

True, and lol at the last sentence. Even in Cyrodiil I get hit by a sniper that does not even come close to killing me and I think how those PvE players that try out PvP make me look like a good player. When is the next Mayhem event? ( yea, I know probably never).

MusCanus

Qbiken wrote: »

The only fix mmr needs is the removal of it itself.

I genuinely think it has been removed. You can have 2 matches in a row where in one there are just sweaty tryhards in the opposite teams and you can't possibly win or even come second if your team is lacking one player or just overall bad. In the next one you're facing such potatoes that you can clean the entire enemy team by yourself without even trying.

Maryjane832

Bashev wrote: »

Maryjane832 wrote: »

Even if you're right, and I'm not saying you are, and premades are not the problem, my suggestions are still good. 2v2 and 4v4 matches and tournaments would be fun, more competitive and would fix some of the imbalances and que times.

I really doubt that 2vs2 and 4vs4 will be fun in ESO. I ve played a few 4vs4 in BGs where the third team quit and it is really clear who will win the fight after 30 seconds.

Thogard wrote: »

Premades are extremely rare on PC NA

Full premades in EU do not exist right now. Most of the players play in duos and rarely in trios

You don't think tournaments and best of 3 standard matches for 2v2 and 4v4 would increase competition and interest in pvp? Sure, teams will get stomped often but applying rankings would work much better for more competitive matches. And BGs would still be a thing along with cyr.

kadar

MusCanus wrote: »

Qbiken wrote: »

The only fix mmr needs is the removal of it itself.

I genuinely think it has been removed. You can have 2 matches in a row where in one there are just sweaty tryhards in the opposite teams and you can't possibly win or even come second if your team is lacking one player or just overall bad. In the next one you're facing such potatoes that you can clean the entire enemy team by yourself without even trying.

More likely it exists but the system doesn't have the population to actually match people with similar MMR. Which is depressing as hell. BGs are hella fun IMO. It's a shame few people can/will experience it due to poor coding.

Iskiab

After playing more... god I hope they keep MMR. Low MMR matches aren’t fun: people drop when they realize they aren’t going to get carried, crazy imbalanced matches, people afk at the spawn, people don’t have vigor yet and don’t heal themselves, whole teams drop the match.

It’s a *** show.

precambria

Iskiab wrote: »

After playing more... god I hope they keep MMR. Low MMR matches aren’t fun: people drop when they realize they aren’t going to get carried, crazy imbalanced matches, people afk at the spawn, people don’t have vigor yet and don’t heal themselves, whole teams drop the match.

It’s a *** show.

Yeah it is needed 100%, they don't want to have to sift through all the reports for "hacking" they will get when it puts a decent magwarden in with casuals and they 1v10 which would become a regular event if there was no MMR. As much as the 20 min waits and 99% chance of sweat with intermittent salt sometimes pains me it's not as bad as the frustration I would experience if all the sudden nobody knew how to play or how the BG works.

Qbiken

precambria wrote: »

Iskiab wrote: »

After playing more... god I hope they keep MMR. Low MMR matches aren’t fun: people drop when they realize they aren’t going to get carried, crazy imbalanced matches, people afk at the spawn, people don’t have vigor yet and don’t heal themselves, whole teams drop the match.

It’s a *** show.

Yeah it is needed 100%, they don't want to have to sift through all the reports for "hacking" they will get when it puts a decent magwarden in with casuals and they 1v10 which would become a regular event if there was no MMR. As much as the 20 min waits and 99% chance of sweat with intermittent salt sometimes pains me it's not as bad as the frustration I would experience if all the sudden nobody knew how to play or how the BG works.

Any queue that takes longer than 5 min regardless of game mode is unacceptable. Who cares if someone leaves in a low mmr game, you'll get a new game almost instantly anyway. Again, I shouldn't be punished with longer queue times just because I've played more BG's on a specific character. And fighting the same 20-30 people everytime is *** too. Just disable mmr until a proper system is in place.

Iskiab

Qbiken wrote: »

precambria wrote: »

Iskiab wrote: »

After playing more... god I hope they keep MMR. Low MMR matches aren’t fun: people drop when they realize they aren’t going to get carried, crazy imbalanced matches, people afk at the spawn, people don’t have vigor yet and don’t heal themselves, whole teams drop the match.

It’s a *** show.

Yeah it is needed 100%, they don't want to have to sift through all the reports for "hacking" they will get when it puts a decent magwarden in with casuals and they 1v10 which would become a regular event if there was no MMR. As much as the 20 min waits and 99% chance of sweat with intermittent salt sometimes pains me it's not as bad as the frustration I would experience if all the sudden nobody knew how to play or how the BG works.

Any queue that takes longer than 5 min regardless of game mode is unacceptable. Who cares if someone leaves in a low mmr game, you'll get a new game almost instantly anyway. Again, I shouldn't be punished with longer queue times just because I've played more BG's on a specific character. And fighting the same 20-30 people everytime is *** too. Just disable mmr until a proper system is in place.

I still get 10 minute queues on my alt. When you first start they pop fast, but after maybe Assault/Support 6 they slow down a lot. Grinding out Assault/Support 10 sucks.

You get lots of new players, people drop games if they don’t think they’ll get carried, and it’s almost never full teams of 4.

When you play more and get matched against pvpers no one drops, the teams are full, and they’re usually good games.

oxygen_thief

Iskiab wrote: »

When you play more and get matched against pvpers no one drops, the teams are full, and they’re usually good games.

i dont play much this days but people jump off when they think they are playing against premade. i fought in some 4v1v1 matches