Sorc and the Bounty System

vestahls

Thoughts to have Sorc pets summoned from the depths of Oblivion to be illegal in towns and cities, just like Necromancer summoned pets are.

Minor edit to remove petition.

MehrunesFlagon

Where is the option for hell no?

vestahls

Strongest yes

MehrunesFlagon wrote: »

Where is the option for hell no?

It's wandering the wilderness to atone.

VaranisArano

You do realize that in TES IV Oblivion, when daedra where quite literally pouring out of gates from the Deadlands, no NPC batted an eye over my summoned Daedra?

Don't mess up the lore on top of a biased poll.

There are better ways for ZOS to handle interactivity issues with pets than by changing the way Sorcs have been able to use pets in towns since Launch.

vestahls

Strongest yes

VaranisArano wrote: »

You do realize that in TES IV Oblivion, when daedra where quite literally pouring out of gates from the Deadlands, no NPC batted an eye over my summoned Daedra?

Don't mess up the lore on top of a biased poll.

There are better ways for ZOS to handle interactivity issues with pets than by changing the way Sorcs have been able to use pets in towns since Launch.

I would argue TES IV takes place in the far future where the citizens are more enlightened and tolerant.

And it's not just interactivity issues, it's irritability issues which are related to the interactivity issues but are not limited to them.

Major_Lag

VaranisArano wrote: »

You do realize that in TES IV Oblivion, when daedra where quite literally pouring out of gates from the Deadlands, no NPC batted an eye over my summoned Daedra?

OTOH, in Skyrim, you could have a reanimated thrall of a high-ranking NPC following you around (Ulfric, for example) and noone would care or even comment on that, despite necromancy being frowned upon.
...oh wait, it was not necromancy but Conjuration, so I guess it was fine after all

Not that I agree with the OP, just pointing this out.
And on a gameplay level, it wouldn't even make much sense - since Sorc pets are semi-permanent summons, whereas Necromancer minions are not.

Just make the bloody things transparent to all player interactions in all PvE areas.
I'm a Sorc main, and even then I find the pets annoying. Even my own. They get in the way a lot, and block interaction prompts from appearing.

Xvorg

vestahls wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

You do realize that in TES IV Oblivion, when daedra where quite literally pouring out of gates from the Deadlands, no NPC batted an eye over my summoned Daedra?

Don't mess up the lore on top of a biased poll.

There are better ways for ZOS to handle interactivity issues with pets than by changing the way Sorcs have been able to use pets in towns since Launch.

I would argue TES IV takes place in the far future where the citizens are more enlightened and tolerant.

And it's not just interactivity issues, it's irritability issues which are related to the interactivity issues but are not limited to them.

So you think Vanus Galerion the greatest mage of all time should be arrested for this?

vestahls

Strongest yes

Major_Lag wrote: »

Just make the bloody things transparent to all player interactions in all PvE areas.
I'm a Sorc main, and even then I find the pets annoying. Even my own. They get in the way a lot, and block interaction prompts from appearing.

Same tbh. I mained a Sorc for over two years, and I ended up not playing a pet build because it was irritating me, let alone other players. I would've preferred to play it, and it makes the game easier too, but it's just...

If they were made temp summons like the Necro ones, or somehow invisible outside of combat, anything would be an improvement.

daim

Strongest yes

I dont really care otherwise but I dislike all kinds of pets ingame, especially at player hubs and especially when they are blocking my game functions. So thats three times strong yes to this, thus the strongest option.

vestahls

Strongest yes

Xvorg wrote: »

So you think Vanus Galerion the greatest mage of all time should be arrested for this?

Ah, summoning daedra in the privacy of one's dungeon for the purpose of killing mobs should remain perfectly legal. Live and let die!

Veinblood1965

Can we have a poll about whether we want to see any more threads or polls about banning Sorc Pets? Although my main is a Sorc Pet, I felt the pain while fishing in the New Life fishing quest this week on my new alt. Freaking flappy wings.

Xvorg

vestahls wrote: »

Xvorg wrote: »

So you think Vanus Galerion the greatest mage of all time should be arrested for this?

Ah, summoning daedra in the privacy of one's dungeon for the purpose of killing mobs should remain perfectly legal. Live and let die!

Ok, so you want to go against lore and change the game?

By the way, Vanus at some point taught that spell... right?

vestahls

Strongest yes

Xvorg wrote: »

Ok, so you want to go against lore and change the game?

I see I've found Cathy Newman.

kojou

Strongest yes

I actually don't care. I just thought it was funny because of the similar post related to Necromancers.

TheUndeadAmulet

Strongest yes

Haha yes if my class suffers all others must suffer too!! 11!1!

karekiz

Strongest yes

Yes but can Bears be added to the list?

https://imgur.com/a/iqnePoh


I mean Bears are dangerous creatures.....

SirAndy

vestahls wrote: »

Thoughts to have Sorc pets summoned from the depths of Oblivion to be illegal in towns and cities, just like Necromancer summoned pets are.

Minor edit to remove petition.

I'll vote yes, yes and yes the day they make NPCs attack vampire and werewolf players on sight.
And anyone carrying the blade of woe for that matter. Sport a dark brotherhood outfit? Get attacked in town.

The whole "justice system" needs a complete overhaul ...

zvavi

Strongest yes

I mean, usually i am against biased poles, but when i saw strongest yes option i just felt like i gotta press it regardless of the question. all hail strength!!!

On the serious note though

Major_Lag wrote: »

Just make the bloody things transparent to all player interactions in all PvE areas.

This.

AverageJo3Gam3r

Strongest yes

I hate the flappy bird with the passion of a thousand suns.

idk

vestahls wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

You do realize that in TES IV Oblivion, when daedra where quite literally pouring out of gates from the Deadlands, no NPC batted an eye over my summoned Daedra?

Don't mess up the lore on top of a biased poll.

There are better ways for ZOS to handle interactivity issues with pets than by changing the way Sorcs have been able to use pets in towns since Launch.

I would argue TES IV takes place in the far future where the citizens are more enlightened and tolerant.

And it's not just interactivity issues, it's irritability issues which are related to the interactivity issues but are not limited to them.

Do you have a link to a source about your claim concerning TES IV?

I would also suggest changing your wording. Petitions and demands are not permitted in these forums and have lead to threads being edited and sometimes closed as a result. Just a friendly suggestion.

Edit: I did notice the poll is actually designed as a total joke and not intended for Zos to take seriously as it could not be more biased. But the choice of wording could still be an issue.

vestahls

Strongest yes

karekiz wrote: »

Yes but can Bears be added to the list?

https://imgur.com/a/iqnePoh


I mean Bears are dangerous creatures.....

That's a fair point, actually, yes. How could I forget about all the times the banker was buried in a forest of brown bear butt?

idk wrote: »

Edit: I did notice the poll is actually designed as a total joke and not intended for Zos to take seriously as it could not be more biased. But the choice of wording could still be an issue.

I mean yeah, I thought it was clear the whole thing is a joke, and a jab at that other thread asking to make Necro pets immune to the justice system.

If Zos finds issue with the post, they can edit or remove it, but I would've thought it was clear I wasn't being serious. And it's not because there's not a real issue with Sorc and Warden pets being annoying, but I doubt Zos will ever do anything about it. To take away from the playerbase this sort of comfort this late in the game will result in more trouble than it's worth. Doesn't mean we can't talk about it though.

SirAndy wrote: »

I'll vote yes, yes and yes the day they make NPCs attack vampire and werewolf players on sight.
And anyone carrying the blade of woe for that matter. Sport a dark brotherhood outfit? Get attacked in town.

The whole "justice system" needs a complete overhaul ...

Oh man, yeah. I remember when I started playing and saw what were clearly vamps in the middle of town, and it was like... "Nobody's attacking them? Really?"
Guess the game would be really difficult to go through like that though, and they just wanted to make things bearable for players who wanted a vamp toon. Arguably if you wear a full-face helm, you can RP it away.

Pirateassassin3

NO

Zelos

Yeah but... arent sorc pets technically under control by the master, I mean necromancer is kind of a wild skeleton that blows up on people. Regardless that it doesnt actually do that becuase of the players and it being an MMORPG but hypothetical in skyrim you summon thr same skeleton it will run at someone and blow up.

DBZVelena

Strong yes

IMo, my pets don't need to be seen by other players unless we're in combat, so if ZoS made them fased. where other people wouldn't see my pets. I'd be ok with that.
Could do the same with the warden bear.

Or make it a toggle in settings, so people can choose to turn off out of combat pets. Mini-pets too imo.

Key part however is the choosing part. This way players who do want to see the pets, bear, mini pets ect. would have the option. (yes they exist!)

I know it would make doing writs a lot easier for lots of people.

There, a solution that doesn't involve taking away the Necromancers gimmick of some of his skills being illegal.

WrathOfInnos

This post just earned 6 hours of me summoning 2 pets and standing in front of writ turn in locations

Seriously, don’t make Sorc as annoying as Necro with the constant bounties.

zvavi

Strongest yes

Guys plz, we need to think about the real problem. Bears. I mean seriously, someone managed today to block a Wayshrine with this thing in Garthwood so i couldn't use it.

Alidel

It's actually would be region dependant, if you consider lore. I mean, dunmer do worship daedra.

GrigorijMalahevich

Stronger yes

Yes! Another valid point for the #nerfsorc team! Thank you!

Bobby_V_Rockit

Strongest yes

As a busy Mom, I say yes!

karekiz

Strongest yes

SirAndy wrote: »

And anyone carrying the blade of woe for that matter.

Well they technically do. If you kill someone and NPC's see you they go KoS. Otherwise your a member of the Dark Brotherhood if you have the Blade skill at all, and probably know better than to brandish the advertise yourself as a guild member all around town.

Ardan147

NO.

The conjurer isn't defiling the dead, and it's assumed that they have complete control over their summoned daedric beast.

Now what they need to do is make it so that these things don't interfere with player being able to interact with crafting stations and wayshrines and anything else in the game.