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Reduced texture resolution of mounts too extreme, Indriks worst offenders

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Whatever you did to other people's mounts, I think you guys went too far. They're SUPER fuzzy and hard to look at, and I don't think it helped anything.

Is anyone noticing a tangible improvement in performance?

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EDIT: Two things would make this acceptable:
  • Put a toggle in the menu. Let us CHOOSE.
  • People in your group should be exempt from the texture reduction. It looks absolutely ridiculous when you stop on the road with your friend, and you look pristine, and they look like mud.
★ If anyone has any other really egregious examples, please post them here. ★ I've been trying to get screenshots but no one will sit still long enough.

EDIT 2: More screenshots under the spoiler. I tried to get a varied sample. Some of the mounts look worse than others. I leave it to you to decide who got hit the hardest.
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EDIT3: Screenshots were taken on a fairly new PS4 PRO with Super Sampling and 1080p Enhanced enabled. Here are the patch notes for PS4 and for XBOX.


Edited by SickleCider on December 25, 2019 4:53PM
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  • JJBoomer
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    Where was this stated?
  • validifyedneb18_ESO
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    Its possible this is an issue with changes to the LOD system which may have come with this texture change if they're hunting performance increases.

    Seems a bit silly that 5 years after launch they have to start cutting stuff for optimizations. Game just keeps running worse.
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  • SickleCider
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    JJBoomer wrote: »
    Where was this stated?

    Patch notes. They did it to PS4, not sure about other platforms.
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  • SickleCider
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    Its possible this is an issue with changes to the LOD system which may have come with this texture change if they're hunting performance increases.

    Seems a bit silly that 5 years after launch they have to start cutting stuff for optimizations. Game just keeps running worse.

    Perhaps that's the case. This seems TOO extreme to be intentional.
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  • theyancey
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    This is for consoles only and does not apply to PC.
  • RefLiberty
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    JJBoomer wrote: »
    Where was this stated?

    Patch notes. They did it to PS4, not sure about other platforms.

    Not on PC as far as I know,
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    It’s all black silhouettes & mashed potatoes on XBOX NA.

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    It’s all black silhouettes & mashed potatoes on XBOX NA.

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    The mashed potato motif drops in craglorn right?
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    It’s pretty obvious that the game code has grown beyond what some consoles can run well under all conditions. If ZOS is starting to reduce some graphical complexity on consoles to try to compensate, it’s probably a good idea and overdue.
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    Marcus684 wrote: »
    It’s pretty obvious that the game code has grown beyond what some consoles can run well under all conditions. If ZOS is starting to reduce some graphical complexity on consoles to try to compensate, it’s probably a good idea and overdue.

    @Marcus684 Yes, I agree. . . to an extent. I added a screenshot to the OP, now that I've had time to transfer it from the console. I don't know, this seems extreme.
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  • DragonRacer
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    Seems we gotta go to PS1 graphics to try and compensate, but the sad part is many folks still having performance issues as if this hasn't helped any.

    Consoles are nearing crisis mode, I am afraid to say.
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    @DragonRacer No joke, I was going to buy some crowns, but then I saw my friend's Indrik and now I'm like "absolutely not."
    Edited by SickleCider on December 20, 2019 2:29AM
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  • CAB_Life
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    Game looks PS2ish on console now, yeah. Also the viewing distance reduction (also added this patch) gives worse pop in than Tera or BDO—I’ve directly compared and screenshooted to be sure. Actually, BDO on a Pro has better viewing distance than a PC on high for some reason.

    They need to port this game to the new (Next-gen) consoles ASAP. And yes, I’ve made this suggestion multiple times now and will keep bandwagoning it.

    Making other players and the world uglier definitely doesn’t encourage the “must have” syndrome from other players mounts, gear etc, either.
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    CAB_Life wrote: »
    Game looks PS2ish on console now, yeah. Also the viewing distance reduction (also added this patch) gives worse pop in than Tera or BDO—I’ve directly compared and screenshooted to be sure. Actually, BDO on a Pro has better viewing distance than a PC on high for some reason.

    They need to port this game to the new (Next-gen) consoles ASAP. And yes, I’ve made this suggestion multiple times now and will keep bandwagoning it.

    The same new consoles that aren’t fully confirmed and won’t actually be on sale for about a year and won’t have the population of existing console platforms for even longer? Those consoles?

    Even when the new consoles come out ZOS will still have to cater for the old consoles for a while. It’s one way in which an ongoing MMORPG differs from a single player game. Once you’ve set your baseline system, it’s hard to upgrade them.
  • CAB_Life
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    FierceSam wrote: »
    CAB_Life wrote: »
    Game looks PS2ish on console now, yeah. Also the viewing distance reduction (also added this patch) gives worse pop in than Tera or BDO—I’ve directly compared and screenshooted to be sure. Actually, BDO on a Pro has better viewing distance than a PC on high for some reason.

    They need to port this game to the new (Next-gen) consoles ASAP. And yes, I’ve made this suggestion multiple times now and will keep bandwagoning it.

    The same new consoles that aren’t fully confirmed and won’t actually be on sale for about a year and won’t have the population of existing console platforms for even longer? Those consoles?

    Even when the new consoles come out ZOS will still have to cater for the old consoles for a while. It’s one way in which an ongoing MMORPG differs from a single player game. Once you’ve set your baseline system, it’s hard to upgrade them.

    Dev kits are available to all major publishers and have been for a while; likewise specs are internally known and quite accurately sussed out by now (10-12 TF, very fast processors, SSD is standard). Full reveals are all slated before E3 2020.

    Obviously they can’t kill PS4/Xbox One support day one, but a succession and incentivization plan should be in place as we saw with FFXIV, DCUO etc, last gen.

    It’s not as if performance is going to miraculously improve without turning the dials down further and ESO will look really long in the tooth come November 2020 when the new toys are out.
    Edited by CAB_Life on December 20, 2019 8:59AM
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    CAB_Life wrote: »
    Game looks PS2ish on console now, yeah. Also the viewing distance reduction (also added this patch) gives worse pop in than Tera or BDO—I’ve directly compared and screenshooted to be sure. Actually, BDO on a Pro has better viewing distance than a PC on high for some reason.

    They need to port this game to the new (Next-gen) consoles ASAP. And yes, I’ve made this suggestion multiple times now and will keep bandwagoning it.

    Making other players and the world uglier definitely doesn’t encourage the “must have” syndrome from other players mounts, gear etc, either.

    This or finally allow us to transfer to PC if we wanted and take our items and achievement with us.
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    Yuck, that looks awful. Thankfully, PC still looks fine.

    Is this only the base PS4 model, or the Pro as well?
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    Jeez that looks (snip)

    Why aren't there any proper options for graphics? Let people pick it they want frames > fancy. For that matter why are there still no options to make custom control assignments?

    (edited for bypassing profanity filter)
    Edited by ZOS_FalcoYamaoka on December 21, 2019 1:44PM
  • CAB_Life
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    Yuck, that looks awful. Thankfully, PC still looks fine.

    Is this only the base PS4 model, or the Pro as well?

    Pro and X1X as well. It’s possible they could’ve left the enhanced versions alone, but idk.
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    No, if anything, performance has got even worse for me.
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    theyancey wrote: »
    This is for consoles only and does not apply to PC.

    Ah, OK.

    Even so, my performance is ridiculous at the moment.
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    CAB_Life wrote: »
    Yuck, that looks awful. Thankfully, PC still looks fine.

    Is this only the base PS4 model, or the Pro as well?

    Pro and X1X as well. It’s possible they could’ve left the enhanced versions alone, but idk.

    @MLGProPlayer @CAB_Life My screenshot is on a PS4 PRO with Super Sampling and 1080p Enhanced enabled.
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    CAB_Life wrote: »
    Yuck, that looks awful. Thankfully, PC still looks fine.

    Is this only the base PS4 model, or the Pro as well?

    Pro and X1X as well. It’s possible they could’ve left the enhanced versions alone, but idk.

    In the patch notes for xbox it states that these changes do not apply to X1X. I would post a screenshot but that's difficult on a garbage kindle.
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    RefLiberty wrote: »
    JJBoomer wrote: »
    Where was this stated?

    Patch notes. They did it to PS4, not sure about other platforms.

    Not on PC as far as I know,
    It looks like the preload texture to me, the one you get just after porting into an place.
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  • SickleCider
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    zaria wrote: »
    RefLiberty wrote: »
    JJBoomer wrote: »
    Where was this stated?

    Patch notes. They did it to PS4, not sure about other platforms.

    Not on PC as far as I know,
    It looks like the preload texture to me, the one you get just after porting into an place.

    Yup, that's exactly what it looks like. I have a hard time believing this is intentional, especially since the Indriks are the worst affected that I've seen.
    Edited by SickleCider on December 20, 2019 1:22PM
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  • CAB_Life
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    CAB_Life wrote: »
    Yuck, that looks awful. Thankfully, PC still looks fine.

    Is this only the base PS4 model, or the Pro as well?

    Pro and X1X as well. It’s possible they could’ve left the enhanced versions alone, but idk.

    In the patch notes for xbox it states that these changes do not apply to X1X. I would post a screenshot but that's difficult on a garbage kindle.

    I’ll log in and look again, but thank you for the update. Guess I’ll be swapping mostly to Xbox for the remainder of this gen! :) Do you know if they reduced the viewing distance on X1X too? Because that was the most egregious change for me.
    Edited by CAB_Life on December 20, 2019 1:52PM
  • Cerotonin
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    At least you’re the prettiest one in the zone now.
  • SickleCider
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    At least you’re the prettiest one in the zone now.

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  • Zephard
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    I am glad we are PC. Without the addons and now this, my wife would never agree to play ESO.
    It's got to be pretty for her to play.

    I can only sympathize.
  • SickleCider
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    Zephard wrote: »
    I am glad we are PC. Without the addons and now this, my wife would never agree to play ESO.
    It's got to be pretty for her to play.

    I can only sympathize.

    I'm totally the same way, and I know it's a totally shallow girly thing, but I need the mounts to be pretty. I stan your wife.

    I'm also going to use this gif again.

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