Target Iron Attronach is outdated

Olupajmibanan

Hello everybody.

Today I would like to bring an issue that will most likely be thrown out of window by the community being a non-important issue, but hey, what's important nowadays? Important issues like server performance are on dead spot for years anyways.

I feel like Target Iron Attronach is outdated and missing important group buffs/debuffs that are commonly present in a trial.
1. Minor Courage. Target Attro does give Hircine buff which is very rare, but does not give Minor Courage which is always present even in PuG trials?
2. Major Vulnerability. Target Attro gains off-balance for 7 seconds every 20 seconds. It should periodicaly gain Major Vulnerability for 8 seconds every 20 seconds as well. Thanks to missing Major Vulnerability debuff on Target Attro, necro parses look much better than they actualy are in comparison with other classes.

Konstant_Tel_Necris

Wait for new and improved Cold Steel Atronach dummy just for 12K Crowns it's will even self harm to improve your DPS parse for additional 5K!

Heelie

The reason why these two buffs matters very little is that dps increasing buffs will just inflate the numbers across all classes. What makes the Iron Atro so great is how it's perfect at giving a good comparison across classes simulating a very optimized raid group. Hircine comes in here as a sustain tool. The same classes will be on top after these two buffs are added as before.

Olupajmibanan

Heelie wrote: »

The reason why these two buffs matters very little is that dps increasing buffs will just inflate the numbers across all classes. What makes the Iron Atro so great is how it's perfect at giving a good comparison across classes simulating a very optimized raid group. Hircine comes in here as a sustain tool. The same classes will be on top after these two buffs are added as before.

That is true only for Minor Courage. Major Vulnerability is completely another thing that distorts comparison between classes because one class has access to it on Target Attronach while the rest of clases haven't. In a trial, the debuff is accessible to everyone. That's the reason for necro parses are being so much higher than rest of classes. You say that same classes will be on top after adding Major Vulnerability? That may be true or not. Because the top is stamnecro, no objections, but we can't say that it stays on top if other high-parsing classes such as stamsorc or stamplar get access to Major Vulnerability. Counter argument is that stamnecro could forget about Colossus and go with Ballista or Dawnbreaker which are stronger ultis when we abstract from Major Vulnerability component of Colossus. But again, we can't say if ulti change would be enough to keep its top place.

You see? Things could be very different if Major Vulnerability is not necro-exclusive on Target Iron Attronach.

Olupajmibanan

This is how it looks when Major Vulnerability is necro-exclusive:

AgaTheGreat

I agree, it would definitely level the playing field for all classes.