Any working magicka necromancer builds?

Canned_Apples

anyone know of any good/working (no-cp) combos?
They're either tanky and do zero damage, or not tanky and do zero damage.

dorogov.alexeyeb17_ESO

Pvp colossus bomber build. To slam groups in cydoriil

Canned_Apples

dorogov.alexeyeb17_ESO wrote: »

Pvp colossus bomber build. To slam groups in cydoriil

So... no.

Lughlongarm

Some builds here. I can vouch for the build I posted there, very effective(especially in non-cp) .

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/6477781#Comment_6477781

Canned_Apples

"theory crafted" builds are useless, as they are rarely effective. A stamina skill for a magicka build?

This is literally the only class that I cannot find an effective build for.
Just about every skill in its kit is broken.

They really need to rebuild this class from the ground up. Horrible class.

Akinos

Canned_Apples wrote: »

"theory crafted" builds are useless, as they are rarely effective. A stamina skill for a magicka build?

This is literally the only class that I cannot find an effective build for.
Just about every skill in its kit is broken.

They really need to rebuild this class from the ground up. Horrible class.

Theory crafted builds are useless eh? So you think every build ever is useless? lol.
Why do you need to find a build for magicka necro when you can just come up with your own...you know what? I'll just do you a favor and give you want you want. since you seem to be having a hard time

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=194157
This build also works great in no cp.
And some video to prove that it's an effective build: https://youtu.be/X6RPzCYhdHM
No CP BG video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFfrXJcdOus
Good luck.

khajiitNPC

I’m running Bright Throat, BloodSpawn, and Crafty Alfiq on my Magicka Necromancer and it’s working very good. Infused jewelry all spell damage, and the wrothgar drink, still have an obscene pool of magicka and good health. Great damage and great survivability.

Canned_Apples

Akinos wrote: »

Canned_Apples wrote: »

"theory crafted" builds are useless, as they are rarely effective. A stamina skill for a magicka build?

This is literally the only class that I cannot find an effective build for.
Just about every skill in its kit is broken.

They really need to rebuild this class from the ground up. Horrible class.

Theory crafted builds are useless eh? So you think every build ever is useless? lol.
Why do you need to find a build for magicka necro when you can just come up with your own...you know what? I'll just do you a favor and give you want you want. since you seem to be having a hard time

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=194157
This build also works great in no cp.
And some video to prove that it's an effective build: https://youtu.be/X6RPzCYhdHM
No CP BG video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFfrXJcdOus
Good luck.

-by that I mean builds that haven't been tested, or put into practice.

Your video is basically you just spamming Shock Clench and using blastbones once every few minutes.
-You have to admit that something is seriously wrong with a class when you can't effective use a core skill.

Akinos

Canned_Apples wrote: »

Akinos wrote: »

Canned_Apples wrote: »

"theory crafted" builds are useless, as they are rarely effective. A stamina skill for a magicka build?

This is literally the only class that I cannot find an effective build for.
Just about every skill in its kit is broken.

They really need to rebuild this class from the ground up. Horrible class.

Theory crafted builds are useless eh? So you think every build ever is useless? lol.
Why do you need to find a build for magicka necro when you can just come up with your own...you know what? I'll just do you a favor and give you want you want. since you seem to be having a hard time

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=194157
This build also works great in no cp.
And some video to prove that it's an effective build: https://youtu.be/X6RPzCYhdHM
No CP BG video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFfrXJcdOus
Good luck.

-by that I mean builds that haven't been tested, or put into practice.

Your video is basically you just spamming Shock Clench and using blastbones once every few minutes.
-You have to admit that something is seriously wrong with a class when you can't effective use a core skill.

Every few minutes? You meant seconds right? lol. Also every class spams one thing or another, welcome to an mmo where skills don't have cooldowns.

And yes while the class isn't perfect it's far from being 100% broken. I get a ton of blast bone kills, the real issue i see with it is that it doesn't show damage when it hits. So unless you have a combat log like i do it's hard to tell whether it's landing or not. Blastbones should also be cc immune also imo.

Anyways, you got a build that works. I don't know what else you want or if you'll ever be satisfied.

Stridig

Canned_Apples wrote: »

Akinos wrote: »

Canned_Apples wrote: »

"theory crafted" builds are useless, as they are rarely effective. A stamina skill for a magicka build?

This is literally the only class that I cannot find an effective build for.
Just about every skill in its kit is broken.

They really need to rebuild this class from the ground up. Horrible class.

Theory crafted builds are useless eh? So you think every build ever is useless? lol.
Why do you need to find a build for magicka necro when you can just come up with your own...you know what? I'll just do you a favor and give you want you want. since you seem to be having a hard time

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=194157
This build also works great in no cp.
And some video to prove that it's an effective build: https://youtu.be/X6RPzCYhdHM
No CP BG video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFfrXJcdOus
Good luck.

-by that I mean builds that haven't been tested, or put into practice.

Your video is basically you just spamming Shock Clench and using blastbones once every few minutes.
-You have to admit that something is seriously wrong with a class when you can't effective use a core skill.

If your not interested in build ideas, why ask? I'm pretty sure Akinos knows what he's talking about.

Canned_Apples

A build that crutches on a master staff? no thanks. that's an additional 30 hours of farming I'm not willing to put in.

Stridig

Ok. Then just buy a set of Crafty, build a set of Seducer and spam every skill you have for days. Its cheap and easy. No farming needed.

xylena

Canned_Apples wrote: »

Your video is basically you just spamming Shock Clench and using blastbones once every few minutes. You have to admit that something is seriously wrong with a class when you can't effective use a core skill.

It's not the player's fault that Shock Clench is getting better results than the flaming skull spammable. I'll agree there's something wrong with that, a lot of its abilities needs buffs, but Akinos shows the class is at least playable.

OtarTheMad

@Akinos has a good magcro build for sure and it works. Icypanda I think has a similar one and that works (might be the same idk)

The issue for me is that you need a master staff to make the class (or at least that build) work. I am doing BTB and Alfiq at the moment (when doing damage) I am trying different monster sets currently. It works okay but Blastbones while it DOES hit pretty hard it is not consistent, I find that it seems to forget where the enemy is or it just stares at them and then not exploding. I like skulls but it's really slow so I use Force Pulse as my main spammable and Shock Clench up close with BB as my burst. Not a bad combo with Ele drain but that's only when BB works. (BB is also easily CC'd and outrun which is annoying af for an ability that doesn't work 100% of the time)

A master staff, or BRP or whatever else, should be a compliment to a build/class not a requirement. The class is far from broken (I mean make BB work, make Skeleton worth slotting and speed up Skulls and you got a strong class) but it also is frustrating to play if you don't have access to a master staff.

Akinos

Master staff isn't required actually, i can get similar results without, can still get over 11k clench tooltip without master staff. Also greatswords work pretty well for the skull and the scythe skills. I was landing 5k non crit skulls on people the last time i used a greatsword.
And not all the clips in the videos I linked are with master staff either. I don't remember which ones are and which ones aren't though.

Decimus

You can actually use Accelerating Drain as a spammable on magcro; if you cancel it after 0,7s (2 ticks) you'll have dealt more damage than with Clench, Ele Weapon, Skull, Crushing Shock or any other spammable in the game.

I.e. you get more DPS with Drain (on magcro atleast, since you get +15% to DoT dmg from passive) than with a "real" spammable.


As to the topic, let's just say I've been having a lot of fun on my magcro in noCP (running Zaan+Icy Conjuror+Auroran) :P

ImSoPro

I just switched my build to Bloodspawn, New Moon Acolyte, Desert Rose. I figured the sustain from Desert Rose proc would offset some of that 5% increase active skill cost from NMA. On my even using this build for a couple days but it’s performing pretty good so far

Freakin_Hytte

I'm running 5 piece necro, bloodspawn, ancient grace jewelry and master lightning front bar and maelstrom resto backbar. Works like a charm for me and it's a fun aoe damage build. I've never enjoyed tanky mag builds and would rather build around hots for survivability, it works very well for me.

Waffennacht

All I'm really seeing is the same build with slight varients of set choices.

Essentially boils down to an old school mediocre version of sorc.

There's more variety to be had in stamina.

OrderoftheDarkness

Waffennacht wrote: »

All I'm really seeing is the same build with slight varients of set choices.

Essentially boils down to an old school mediocre version of sorc.

There's more variety to be had in stamina.

I would not call it variety, when you abandon class abilities in favor of weapons and guilds, because they are stronger. This is the same Dizzy stam or Whirl stam or Snipe stam with an attempt to introduce necromancer abilities.

Canned_Apples

Waffennacht wrote: »

All I'm really seeing is the same build with slight varients of set choices.

Essentially boils down to an old school mediocre version of sorc.

There's more variety to be had in stamina.

It actually reminds me of the classic magden build, pre-elswyer, with less reliable burst- of course.

amir412

khajiitNPC wrote: »

I’m running Bright Throat, BloodSpawn, and Crafty Alfiq on my Magicka Necromancer and it’s working very good. Infused jewelry all spell damage, and the wrothgar drink, still have an obscene pool of magicka and good health. Great damage and great survivability.

What's the point running max magicka sets, and going infused traits on jewlry?

Akinos

Waffennacht wrote: »

All I'm really seeing is the same build with slight varients of set choices.

Essentially boils down to an old school mediocre version of sorc.

There's more variety to be had in stamina.

There is more variety in stamina...except 95% of stam players jump on the acolyte+fury+bloodspawn meta train and refuse to even think about other sets.

khajiitNPC

@amir412 yeah it’s probably over kill, but xtra damage from infused is good — I could go other routes but it’s just what works for me. Always open to suggestions. I prefer to not run arcane cuz my max stat is already in a comfortable spot. Really about the only other trait I could think of is protective. Idk.

ImSoPro

Just thought I’d come post an update on the build I started running. I’ve ran ALOT of BGs with some good runs in Cyro and I think I will be sticking with it because it works well for me. Very tanky with good burst. Not using ele drain so I focused on stacking penetration as much as I could. I’m still using new moon acolyte, desert rose, and Bloodspawn.
Breton race.
Lover stone. 5 impen 2 divines. Everything is still purple I didn’t gold anything yet.
Full tri stat glyphs on armor
2 spell damage enchant jewelry
1 mag recovery enchant

Flame staff fb sharpened with weapon damage enchant
Crushing shock
Inner light for the usual reasons
Blastbones of course
Accelerating drain, the minor expedition is nice. I generate enough ult as is with Bloodspawn
Degeneration

Lightning staff bb defending (Probably switching to S&B. Needed a destro staff when I was using ele drain)
Elusive mist
Summoners armor to help sustain with 12% cost reduction to BB, mender and mage.
Resistant flesh
Skeletal mage
Spirit guardian

Necro also has some good passives.
Death Knell increases crit chance vs enemies under 25% hp by 10% for each grave lord ability slotted
Dismember gives 1500 spell pen just for the mage being active.
Undead confederate passive gives 200 mag and stam recovery for having mender or mage active
Curative Curse increases healing by 8% when debuffs are placed on you
Passives give a class its identity and I thought it was important to build around them.
I have 28k hp and 32k mag in Cyro with witchmothers. Was running double bloody mara but was having slight sustain issues with that 5% increase from NMA.

Canned_Apples

@ImSoPro are you running light or heavy?

ImSoPro

Canned_Apples wrote: »

@ImSoPro are you running light or heavy?

5 light 1 heavy 1 med

Canned_Apples

Doesn't work.. Blastbones is too unreliable. It just "stands" there far too often and gives the opposing players more than enough time to regen. Stamcro is the same way...
It wouldn't be so bad if they removed the "chase" mechanic and treated it like a projectile.

Unified_Gaming

I have a build on my channel that works well for me. May help you

HowlKimchi

Canned_Apples wrote: »

"theory crafted" builds are useless, as they are rarely effective. A stamina skill for a magicka build?

This is literally the only class that I cannot find an effective build for.
Just about every skill in its kit is broken.

They really need to rebuild this class from the ground up. Horrible class.

Every single build out there was theorycrafted. Maybe don't just look for working builds that you can copy paste? 1. It may not work for you because of the difference in skill and playstyle of the original theorycrafter and you, and 2. you miss out on the fun of making your own build and the rewarding feeling of seeing it work.

Canned_Apples

@HaruKamui
I have my own builds for every class and steer clear from the 2h new moon + fury/seventh builds. -Yes, nearly ALL stamina builds use that setup.
This class is just so buggy and fails on so many levels.
@Unified_Gaming s build is okay, but it's basically a squishy ult bomb.