"ezpz" toxic ?

Saltisol

Just finished a battleground and after the game I said "ezpz" and one of the teammebers replied "not because of you" so I answered that I'd been guarding or relic and his/her response to that was "if you want to be toxic, go play Another game like cs go or fortnite or whatever game"

I know it's an insignifacant thing but still. I couldn't shake it because I have no idea what provoked him/her.

The Uninvited

I would say "not because of you" sounds a lot more toxic than "ezpz".

Saltisol

The Uninvited wrote: »

I would say "not because of you" sounds a lot more toxic than "ezpz".

Yeah, you are right, thanks for saying that.

Heimpai

It's often used when calling opponents bad

If that is the way your group took it then yeah I could see them being salty as you didn't really do much (in their eyes)

Saltisol

Heimpai wrote: »

It's often used when calling opponents bad

If that is the way your group took it then yeah I could see them being salty as you didn't really do much (in their eyes)

I can see your Point, if the other teams could read and interpret it as them being bad that's one thing but within the team ?

In anyones Eyes I would Think that keeping 1 player as guard for the relic maybe not vital but it does help the team to win.

Added, I have no idea why so many of my character get to be capital letters.

Heimpai

Saltisol wrote: »

Heimpai wrote: »

It's often used when calling opponents bad

If that is the way your group took it then yeah I could see them being salty as you didn't really do much (in their eyes)

I can see your Point, if the other teams could read and interpret it as them being bad that's one thing but within the team ?

In anyones Eyes I would Think that keeping 1 player as guard for the relic is if not vital it helps the team to win.

I completely agree, often people don't think so tho ._.

anitajoneb17_ESO

I'd say that, regardless of what your teammates thought of your performance in the battleground, and whether or not it was justified, calling an objective "easy" is minimizing everyone's efforts to reach it and dismissing any potential pride for having reached it.
I'd refrain from saying things like that.

If I am in a dungeon with new players for whom it's their first or one of their first dungeons, I congratulate them upon successful completion and never, ever say "that's easy", even if that dungeon is normal fungal grotto 1. Maybe it was hard, new and exciting for them and they were proud. You can never know.

Saltisol

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

I'd say that, regardless of what your teammates thought of your performance in the battleground, and whether or not it was justified, calling an objective "easy" is minimizing everyone's efforts to reach it and dismissing any potential pride for having reached it.
I'd refrain from saying things like that.

If I am in a dungeon with new players for whom it's their first or one of their first dungeons, I congratulate them upon successful completion and never, ever say "that's easy", even if that dungeon is normal fungal grotto 1. Maybe it was hard, new and exciting for them and they were proud. You can never know.

Quite clear that we are all different and react in many different ways. I can see what you mean and I understand it. And if he'd put it as you said I would listen and Think about it.

But to brush off my part in the match and then claim that I'm toxic and should go play Another game was uncalled for and rude as I see it.

GhostofDatthaw

Who cares, people can't take anything anymore, you said it was easy, was it easy???. If yes then move on to the next game and ignore idiots like that. Just because something is easy doesn't make others bad. toxic is an overused word to the point its lost meaning. Ignore those idiots and move along.

The Uninvited

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

I'd say that, regardless of what your teammates thought of your performance in the battleground, and whether or not it was justified, calling an objective "easy" is minimizing everyone's efforts to reach it and dismissing any potential pride for having reached it.
I'd refrain from saying things like that.

If I am in a dungeon with new players for whom it's their first or one of their first dungeons, I congratulate them upon successful completion and never, ever say "that's easy", even if that dungeon is normal fungal grotto 1. Maybe it was hard, new and exciting for them and they were proud. You can never know.

Or, you could interpret it as "we are all good players, so it was easy". We're talking battlegrounds here, not dungeons.

anitajoneb17_ESO

The Uninvited wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

I'd say that, regardless of what your teammates thought of your performance in the battleground, and whether or not it was justified, calling an objective "easy" is minimizing everyone's efforts to reach it and dismissing any potential pride for having reached it.
I'd refrain from saying things like that.

If I am in a dungeon with new players for whom it's their first or one of their first dungeons, I congratulate them upon successful completion and never, ever say "that's easy", even if that dungeon is normal fungal grotto 1. Maybe it was hard, new and exciting for them and they were proud. You can never know.

Or, you could interpret it as "we are all good players, so it was easy". We're talking battlegrounds here, not dungeons.

Yes, that's another interpretation. But it's risky too, because it includes yourself, so what if the other players thought you were terribad and they did all the work for you ? (that seems to be the case in OP's situation).
I'm usually an easy going person but if someone that I carried heavily and painfully through an instance claims afterwards that it was "ezpz" that's something that can get me really angry...

Saltisol

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

The Uninvited wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

I'd say that, regardless of what your teammates thought of your performance in the battleground, and whether or not it was justified, calling an objective "easy" is minimizing everyone's efforts to reach it and dismissing any potential pride for having reached it.
I'd refrain from saying things like that.

If I am in a dungeon with new players for whom it's their first or one of their first dungeons, I congratulate them upon successful completion and never, ever say "that's easy", even if that dungeon is normal fungal grotto 1. Maybe it was hard, new and exciting for them and they were proud. You can never know.

Or, you could interpret it as "we are all good players, so it was easy". We're talking battlegrounds here, not dungeons.

Yes, that's another interpretation. But it's risky too, because it includes yourself, so what if the other players thought you were terribad and they did all the work for you ? (that seems to be the case in OP's situation).

What made you decide that I was terribad ? You are telling me that I shouldn't use "ezpz" cause it might minimize someone's effort then you yourself with your high standards suggest that I didn't add to the match by guarding our relic.

What in my post made you come to that conclusion ?

anitajoneb17_ESO

Saltisol wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

The Uninvited wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

I'd say that, regardless of what your teammates thought of your performance in the battleground, and whether or not it was justified, calling an objective "easy" is minimizing everyone's efforts to reach it and dismissing any potential pride for having reached it.
I'd refrain from saying things like that.

If I am in a dungeon with new players for whom it's their first or one of their first dungeons, I congratulate them upon successful completion and never, ever say "that's easy", even if that dungeon is normal fungal grotto 1. Maybe it was hard, new and exciting for them and they were proud. You can never know.

Or, you could interpret it as "we are all good players, so it was easy". We're talking battlegrounds here, not dungeons.

Yes, that's another interpretation. But it's risky too, because it includes yourself, so what if the other players thought you were terribad and they did all the work for you ? (that seems to be the case in OP's situation).

What made you decide that I was terribad ? You are telling me that I shouldn't use "ezpz" cause it might minimize someone's effort then you yourself with your high standards suggest that I didn't add to the match by guarding our relic.

What in my post made you come to that conclusion ?

I didn't "decide". I wasn't there. It's an hypothesis on one possible interpretation.
What makes me think that this was the issue in your case is what you reported your teammates replied to you "not because of you".
Again, it may be true, or not, I don't know. You're asking for explanations as to this conflictual situation, that aspect must be taken into consideration : maybe they thought you did not do well in the battleground.
Which doesn't necessarily mean that you did bad. Sometimes a player plays well but the other players in the team see it differently.

Saltisol

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Saltisol wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

The Uninvited wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

I'd say that, regardless of what your teammates thought of your performance in the battleground, and whether or not it was justified, calling an objective "easy" is minimizing everyone's efforts to reach it and dismissing any potential pride for having reached it.
I'd refrain from saying things like that.

If I am in a dungeon with new players for whom it's their first or one of their first dungeons, I congratulate them upon successful completion and never, ever say "that's easy", even if that dungeon is normal fungal grotto 1. Maybe it was hard, new and exciting for them and they were proud. You can never know.

Or, you could interpret it as "we are all good players, so it was easy". We're talking battlegrounds here, not dungeons.

Yes, that's another interpretation. But it's risky too, because it includes yourself, so what if the other players thought you were terribad and they did all the work for you ? (that seems to be the case in OP's situation).

What made you decide that I was terribad ? You are telling me that I shouldn't use "ezpz" cause it might minimize someone's effort then you yourself with your high standards suggest that I didn't add to the match by guarding our relic.

What in my post made you come to that conclusion ?

I didn't "decide". I wasn't there. It's an hypothesis on one possible interpretation.
What makes me think that this was the issue in your case is what you reported your teammates replied to you "not because of you".
Again, it may be true, or not, I don't know. You're asking for explanations as to this conflictual situation, that aspect must be taken into consideration : maybe they thought you did not do well in the battleground.

I'll tell you this, your first post gave me the impression that you had something to say and I could see your point. But, then it's clear that you had already made up your mind that I was the cause and the problem so I'm disappointed and what you say have no value to me.

InaMoonlight

Sorry, but I tend to agree with the person who was a bit upset YOU thought it was "ezpez"... Might have been a easy time for you but, in saying that without reflection on the entire thing, or showing any respect to the ones that made it possible, and in same go insulting the other team... Well, if others actually worked their sittingdevices off to keep it going, you're also not acknowledging that well, it was a "fight". Usually the ones that think anything was easy, are the ones that didn't do the work

Edit: usual typomania.

ChunkyCat

Stop caring what random people think of you.

Saltisol

InaMoonlight wrote: »

Sorry, but i tend to agree with the person who was a bit upset YOU thought it was "ezpez"... Might have been a easy time for you but, in saying that without reflection on the entire thing, ans well, if others actually worked their sittingdevices off to keep it going, you're also not acknowledging that well, it was a "fight". Usually the ones that think anything was easy, are the ones that didnt do the work

I do think that you are inflating the importance of the phrase "ezpz" but then again that's just my personal opinion. So you mean that if someone says that something is easy you get offended ?

GhostofDatthaw

Welcome to the world of everyone gets a trophy and no one is a loser. An entire generation of panzys.

Saltisol

GhostofDatthaw wrote: »

Welcome to the world of everyone gets a trophy and no one is a loser. An entire generation of panzys.

Seing the agespan in this game it's even worse, it's three generations.

Asardes

OK boomer!

Saltisol

Asardes wrote: »

OK boomer!

Good thing you came along and added some real value to this thread!

GhostofDatthaw

Asardes wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

OK boomer!

Good thing you came along and added some real value to this thread!

He had to get his participation trophy

InaMoonlight

Saltisol wrote: »

InaMoonlight wrote: »

Sorry, but i tend to agree with the person who was a bit upset YOU thought it was "ezpez"... Might have been a easy time for you but, in saying that without reflection on the entire thing, ans well, if others actually worked their sittingdevices off to keep it going, you're also not acknowledging that well, it was a "fight". Usually the ones that think anything was easy, are the ones that didnt do the work

I do think that you are inflating the importance of the phrase "ezpz" but then again that's just my personal opinion. So you mean that if someone says that something is easy you get offended ?

When it wasn't and i spent most the time trying to coddle them and keep em alive, having to readjust strategy cause Leeroy Jenkins, NOT letting me do my job as a dps, yea, kinda

Saltisol

ChunkyCat wrote: »

Stop caring what random people think of you.

Yeah I try and rarely react to other ppl's behaviour and I can in the heat of the moment add my own sarcasm but this one surprized me, had no idea what he was talking about and I think that's what got to me.

GhostofDatthaw

InaMoonlight wrote: »

Saltisol wrote: »

InaMoonlight wrote: »

Sorry, but i tend to agree with the person who was a bit upset YOU thought it was "ezpez"... Might have been a easy time for you but, in saying that without reflection on the entire thing, ans well, if others actually worked their sittingdevices off to keep it going, you're also not acknowledging that well, it was a "fight". Usually the ones that think anything was easy, are the ones that didnt do the work

I do think that you are inflating the importance of the phrase "ezpz" but then again that's just my personal opinion. So you mean that if someone says that something is easy you get offended ?

When it wasn't and i spent most the time trying to coddle them and keep em alive, having to readjust strategy cause Leeroy Jenkins, NOT letting me do my job as a dps, yea, kinda

Ill take throw a total hypothetical in here to support my opinion and make op seem like a *** for 2000 alex

anitajoneb17_ESO

Saltisol wrote: »

I'll tell you this, your first post gave me the impression that you had something to say and I could see your point. But, then it's clear that you had already made up your mind that I was the cause and the problem so I'm disappointed and what you say have no value to me.

As it looks you're not looking for any explanation here, nor for anything in your attitude that you could possibly change in the future. You're just looking for random people on the forum who tell you that, in your incident with other randoms, you're the nice one and the others were the bad guys.
Good luck with that.

InaMoonlight

GhostofDatthaw wrote: »

InaMoonlight wrote: »

Saltisol wrote: »

InaMoonlight wrote: »

Sorry, but i tend to agree with the person who was a bit upset YOU thought it was "ezpez"... Might have been a easy time for you but, in saying that without reflection on the entire thing, ans well, if others actually worked their sittingdevices off to keep it going, you're also not acknowledging that well, it was a "fight". Usually the ones that think anything was easy, are the ones that didnt do the work

I do think that you are inflating the importance of the phrase "ezpz" but then again that's just my personal opinion. So you mean that if someone says that something is easy you get offended ?

When it wasn't and i spent most the time trying to coddle them and keep em alive, having to readjust strategy cause Leeroy Jenkins, NOT letting me do my job as a dps, yea, kinda

Ill take throw a total hypothetical in here to support my opinion and make op seem like a *** for 2000 alex

Sadly not hypothetical, I'm ok with having to do that now and then, but yeah, i'd like a "fist pops out of screen and adjust your nos... attitude" emote

VaranisArano

Its notoriously hard to recognize tone in text, and we on the forums won't ever know where the misunderstanding happened. All we can do is guess based on what you've recounted.

Personally, sometimes I can have the best of intentions or think that I was perfectly clear in my meaning...and I wasn't. It happens. I clarify what I can, apologize if I need to, and move on.


My general rule of thumb for people complaining about getting kicked from dungeons might help: If you don't know why and its not a recurring thing, don't sweat it. It's probably more to do with the other people than you. If you know why or its a recurring thing, then you know if you need to look for something to fix.

GhostofDatthaw

InaMoonlight wrote: »

GhostofDatthaw wrote: »

InaMoonlight wrote: »

Saltisol wrote: »

InaMoonlight wrote: »

Sorry, but i tend to agree with the person who was a bit upset YOU thought it was "ezpez"... Might have been a easy time for you but, in saying that without reflection on the entire thing, ans well, if others actually worked their sittingdevices off to keep it going, you're also not acknowledging that well, it was a "fight". Usually the ones that think anything was easy, are the ones that didnt do the work

I do think that you are inflating the importance of the phrase "ezpz" but then again that's just my personal opinion. So you mean that if someone says that something is easy you get offended ?

When it wasn't and i spent most the time trying to coddle them and keep em alive, having to readjust strategy cause Leeroy Jenkins, NOT letting me do my job as a dps, yea, kinda

Ill take throw a total hypothetical in here to support my opinion and make op seem like a *** for 2000 alex

Sadly not hypothetical, I'm ok with having to do that now and then, but yeah, i'd like a "fist pops out of screen and adjust your nos... attitude" emote

In relation to ops topic its a hypothetical. You are guessing the conditions of his game and trying to relate then to games that you play. And nice dude, I have no reasonable argument so I would rather just hit you. Nice 1 dude.

Saltisol

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Saltisol wrote: »

I'll tell you this, your first post gave me the impression that you had something to say and I could see your point. But, then it's clear that you had already made up your mind that I was the cause and the problem so I'm disappointed and what you say have no value to me.

So as it looks you'r not looking for any explanation here, nor for anything in your attitude that you could possibly change in the future. You're just looking for random people on the forum who tell you that, in your incident with other randoms, you're the nice one and the others were the bad guys.
Good luck with that.

No I came to the forum primarily to vent some frustration. I do like a discussion but when it became clear to me that you had come to your conclusions and had your opinions of me and the situation already decided then there is no point in trying to convince you otherwise.

InaMoonlight

GhostofDatthaw wrote: »

InaMoonlight wrote: »

Saltisol wrote: »

InaMoonlight wrote: »

Sorry, but i tend to agree with the person who was a bit upset YOU thought it was "ezpez"... Might have been a easy time for you but, in saying that without reflection on the entire thing, ans well, if others actually worked their sittingdevices off to keep it going, you're also not acknowledging that well, it was a "fight". Usually the ones that think anything was easy, are the ones that didnt do the work

I do think that you are inflating the importance of the phrase "ezpz" but then again that's just my personal opinion. So you mean that if someone says that something is easy you get offended ?

When it wasn't and i spent most the time trying to coddle them and keep em alive, having to readjust strategy cause Leeroy Jenkins, NOT letting me do my job as a dps, yea, kinda

Ill take throw a total hypothetical in here to support my opinion and make op seem like a *** for 2000 alex

Btw, they didn't need help for that...