PVP on life support. Cyrodiil empty. Imperial City empty. Battleground queue doesn’t work.

Skoomah

Just saying...

Online game pretty much dies when no one logs in anymore...

Whatever fixes are coming, may be too little too late...

Alag

BG queue doesn't work? Me and my friend joined several BGs during yesterday and today, it worked well.

Skoomah

Doesn’t work for me.

I typically wait 20-30 minutes for queue pop per match. I have 2 hours to play per week. That means 1.5 hours of waiting for 30 minutes of play time.

That’s broken in my book.

Alag

Skoomah wrote: »

Doesn’t work for me.

I typically wait 20-30 minutes for queue pop per match. I have 2 hours to play per week. That means 1.5 hours of waiting for 30 minutes of play time.

That’s broken in my book.

Well, yea, 30 mins is way too much. Mine wait time was always at like .. max 3 mins? If you wait 30 mins, that it indicates, that it doesn't work perfectly yet, agree.

ChunkyCat

Skoomah wrote: »

Doesn’t work for me.

I typically wait 20-30 minutes for queue pop per match. I have 2 hours to play per week. That means 1.5 hours of waiting for 30 minutes of play time.

That’s broken in my book.

+1

NeillMcAttack

What server are we talking about here? I’m assuming one of the console ones.

Skoomah

I’m on PC NA.

I find the quality of fights in BGs to be superior which is why I prefer it.

But since the wait times are so long, once in awhile I try out Cyrodiil and Imperial City again.

Imperial City is always empty except for maybe when a few guilds brings 30 people with them to farm telvar.

Cyrodiil doesn’t function at all like how it is supposed to. It is made for large battles but there’s always input lag or people just basically Zerg each other down. Rarely do you get a good evenly matched large group vs large group.

Not sure where else a PvP’er is supposed to go to find high quality fights anymore...

ChunkyCat

Skoomah wrote: »

I’m on PC NA.

I find the quality of fights in BGs to be superior which is why I prefer it.

But since the wait times are so long, once in awhile I try out Cyrodiil and Imperial City again.

Imperial City is always empty except for maybe when a few guilds brings 30 people with them to farm telvar.

Cyrodiil doesn’t function at all like how it is supposed to. It is made for large battles but there’s always input lag or people just basically Zerg each other down. Rarely do you get a good evenly matched large group vs large group.

Not sure where else a PvP’er is supposed to go to find high quality fights anymore...

+1

MajBludd

It's the day after Thanksgiving in the states. I dont think you'll see many on this early.

Heatnix90

MajBludd wrote: »

It's the day after Thanksgiving in the states. I dont think you'll see many on this early.

Yes because clearly OP is giving a minute-by-minute update on the state of PvP.

PvP's been dying for a while now, time to move on to better PvP games.

MajBludd

@Heatnix90 I am able to think for myself and I know pvp is in the downslope, but to say the pop situation isn't affected by the holidays is just plain dumb.

Davadin

Skoomah wrote: »

I’m on PC NA.

I find the quality of fights in BGs to be superior which is why I prefer it.

But since the wait times are so long, once in awhile I try out Cyrodiil and Imperial City again.

Imperial City is always empty except for maybe when a few guilds brings 30 people with them to farm telvar.

Cyrodiil doesn’t function at all like how it is supposed to. It is made for large battles but there’s always input lag or people just basically Zerg each other down. Rarely do you get a good evenly matched large group vs large group.

Not sure where else a PvP’er is supposed to go to find high quality fights anymore...

PC NA here EST late night time.

I BG queued in less than 3 min. for about 5 concurrent ones last night when i need a break from Cyrodiil zerging.

Cyro is usually always packed but since EP ripped a new one and pull ahead this far early this month, it's no longer pop-locked 7-days a week. it gets 2-3 bar with constant fight on the usual spot. Weekend still pop-locked 3 ways though.

again, its on Kaalgron campaign, the most populated one.

but the PvP isn't dying at all no matter how much zone chat tells you how the big PvP group is/going to leave... lol... the usual suspects are still there every night EST.

besides, everyone wants to kill dragons these days.

IC has ALWAYS been empty most of the time, there's no change here since Summerset, even after they merge all the campaigns.

Davadin

speaking of campaign, i just remember i saw the "non faction lock standard campaign" on the list.

it's completely empty. been empty for months since its conceived.

where are those people who hated Alliance Locked and BEGGED ZOS to create a lock-free campaign?

NBrookus

Davadin wrote: »

speaking of campaign, i just remember i saw the "non faction lock standard campaign" on the list.

it's completely empty. been empty for months since its conceived.

where are those people who hated Alliance Locked and BEGGED ZOS to create a lock-free campaign?

In the campaign with actual players in it, because there aren't enough players left for two active campaigns.

Kel

Davadin wrote: »

speaking of campaign, i just remember i saw the "non faction lock standard campaign" on the list.

it's completely empty. been empty for months since its conceived.

where are those people who hated Alliance Locked and BEGGED ZOS to create a lock-free campaign?

They are in a self induced loop.....

Refusing to leave locked campaign because it's the "main" campaign.
Crying on the forums about wanting Kaal unlocked because that's where players are.
Forums reasonably tells them the campaign wouldn't be empty if those that wanted an unlocked campaign would move there, filling it up.
Refusing to leave locked campaign because it's the "main" campaign.

And around and round it goes in an endless loop...

Campaign won't fill itself up. If all you like minded "we want an unlocked campaign" would stay in it for more than 5 minutes, it might have a chance to fill. It definitely isn't going to fill itself...

MajBludd

@Davadin they wont go because no pop, or pugs to roll. If they all went to the unlocked they'd be forced to fight each other and wont.

I can understand this as most probably know each other and respect each other for having similar playstyles.

They'll stay where the pop is and from what I see its guilds switching from faction to faction at the end of a camp that affect the balance, more so than the solo and small group players.

cyclonus11

Sweet maybe they will finally remove PVP

Davadin

Kel wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

speaking of campaign, i just remember i saw the "non faction lock standard campaign" on the list.

it's completely empty. been empty for months since its conceived.

where are those people who hated Alliance Locked and BEGGED ZOS to create a lock-free campaign?

They are in a self induced loop.....

Refusing to leave locked campaign because it's the "main" campaign.
Crying on the forums about wanting Kaal unlocked because that's where players are.
Forums reasonably tells them the campaign wouldn't be empty if those that wanted an unlocked campaign would move there, filling it up.
Refusing to leave locked campaign because it's the "main" campaign.

And around and round it goes in an endless loop...

Campaign won't fill itself up. If all you like minded "we want an unlocked campaign" would stay in it for more than 5 minutes, it might have a chance to fill. It definitely isn't going to fill itself...

i just lol'd hard for a solid minute reading this. well said.

redlink1979

Population depends on time of the day... You can't expect much action at 6am...

SidraWillowsky

Skoomah wrote: »

Doesn’t work for me.

I typically wait 20-30 minutes for queue pop per match. I have 2 hours to play per week. That means 1.5 hours of waiting for 30 minutes of play time.

That’s broken in my book.

The MMR system "punishes" players who are better, yeah? The queue pops instantly for me, which is a total waste because if I'm in a BG, I'm being forced to be there and count down the minutes til it's over.

Git worse...???

Qbiken

Kel wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

speaking of campaign, i just remember i saw the "non faction lock standard campaign" on the list.

it's completely empty. been empty for months since its conceived.

where are those people who hated Alliance Locked and BEGGED ZOS to create a lock-free campaign?

They are in a self induced loop.....

Refusing to leave locked campaign because it's the "main" campaign.
Crying on the forums about wanting Kaal unlocked because that's where players are.
Forums reasonably tells them the campaign wouldn't be empty if those that wanted an unlocked campaign would move there, filling it up.
Refusing to leave locked campaign because it's the "main" campaign.

And around and round it goes in an endless loop...

Campaign won't fill itself up. If all you like minded "we want an unlocked campaign" would stay in it for more than 5 minutes, it might have a chance to fill. It definitely isn't going to fill itself...

People play where the action will most likely be. And the population of a campaign has never been influenced by faction lock/ no faction lock (you lowkey just have to look back how it's been for the last 5 years). The unlocked 30 day one faces a Catch 22 problem (feel free to Google it) were people would most likely play there if it was populated, but you kinda hope that others will go there first. The result is an empty campaign like the old 7 day ones (which has always been dead regardless of faction locks being in the game or not)

If you think that the two main campaigns (30 day locked cp and 30 day locked nocp) are the most populated due to faction lock you're delusional...

Rave the Histborn

Skoomah wrote: »

I’m on PC NA.

I find the quality of fights in BGs to be superior which is why I prefer it.

But since the wait times are so long, once in awhile I try out Cyrodiil and Imperial City again.

Imperial City is always empty except for maybe when a few guilds brings 30 people with them to farm telvar.

Cyrodiil doesn’t function at all like how it is supposed to. It is made for large battles but there’s always input lag or people just basically Zerg each other down. Rarely do you get a good evenly matched large group vs large group.

Not sure where else a PvP’er is supposed to go to find high quality fights anymore...

Bg queue is based on

Kel wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

speaking of campaign, i just remember i saw the "non faction lock standard campaign" on the list.

it's completely empty. been empty for months since its conceived.

where are those people who hated Alliance Locked and BEGGED ZOS to create a lock-free campaign?

They are in a self induced loop.....

Refusing to leave locked campaign because it's the "main" campaign.
Crying on the forums about wanting Kaal unlocked because that's where players are.
Forums reasonably tells them the campaign wouldn't be empty if those that wanted an unlocked campaign would move there, filling it up.
Refusing to leave locked campaign because it's the "main" campaign.

And around and round it goes in an endless loop...

Campaign won't fill itself up. If all you like minded "we want an unlocked campaign" would stay in it for more than 5 minutes, it might have a chance to fill. It definitely isn't going to fill itself...

Woah woah there buddy. The forums arent the kind of place for logic and self thought. ZOS needs to bend the knee more.

Kel

Qbiken wrote: »

Kel wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

speaking of campaign, i just remember i saw the "non faction lock standard campaign" on the list.

it's completely empty. been empty for months since its conceived.

where are those people who hated Alliance Locked and BEGGED ZOS to create a lock-free campaign?

They are in a self induced loop.....

Refusing to leave locked campaign because it's the "main" campaign.
Crying on the forums about wanting Kaal unlocked because that's where players are.
Forums reasonably tells them the campaign wouldn't be empty if those that wanted an unlocked campaign would move there, filling it up.
Refusing to leave locked campaign because it's the "main" campaign.

And around and round it goes in an endless loop...

Campaign won't fill itself up. If all you like minded "we want an unlocked campaign" would stay in it for more than 5 minutes, it might have a chance to fill. It definitely isn't going to fill itself...

People play where the action will most likely be. And the population of a campaign has never been influenced by faction lock/ no faction lock (you lowkey just have to look back how it's been for the last 5 years). The unlocked 30 day one faces a Catch 22 problem (feel free to Google it) were people would most likely play there if it was populated, but you kinda hope that others will go there first. The result is an empty campaign like the old 7 day ones (which has always been dead regardless of faction locks being in the game or not)

If you think that the two main campaigns (30 day locked cp and 30 day locked nocp) are the most populated due to faction lock you're delusional...

Never said that. If fact, you've just reinstated what I've said.
So, thank you...😁

Skoomah

I stand by the point of this post.

We used to be able to fill 2 CP enabled and 1 Non CP enabled Cyrodiil campaigns most times of the day. Now we barely fill one.

Imperial City used to fill both top side and sewers. Now we barely get any PvP top side. Sewers fills up once a year for double telvar event.

We used to be able to get BG queues to pop every 5 minutes. Now it takes 20-30 minutes.

PvP is on life support...

TequilaFire

In my guild and circle of friends on PS4 NA we are all waiting to see if the patch next week fixes the constant crashes.
If not it will be RIP ESO.

ImSoPro

I wouldn’t say it’s on life support. I think higher MMR players just have to wait longer for BG queues because the better you get the less populated your specific tier is. If you’re a god mode PvPer then it will take longer to find a BG with other god mode players. My BG queue is anywhere from 5-15 mins. I consider myself pretty good but not elite. As far as IC sewers yeah they’re pretty dead but I was running around in Cyro all day Wednesday and it was far from dead. Everyone exaggerates on the forums

Davadin

SidraWillowsky wrote: »

Skoomah wrote: »

Doesn’t work for me.

I typically wait 20-30 minutes for queue pop per match. I have 2 hours to play per week. That means 1.5 hours of waiting for 30 minutes of play time.

That’s broken in my book.

The MMR system "punishes" players who are better, yeah? The queue pops instantly for me, which is a total waste because if I'm in a BG, I'm being forced to be there and count down the minutes til it's over.

Git worse...???

that explains soooooooooo much LOL

there's PLENTY OF FISHES ON MY SKILL LEVEL! ROFLMAO

Huyen

Skoomah wrote: »

Doesn’t work for me.

I typically wait 20-30 minutes for queue pop per match. I have 2 hours to play per week. That means 1.5 hours of waiting for 30 minutes of play time.

That’s broken in my book.

Thats because nobody joins the bg queue anymore.

iCaliban

BG's punishing players who play more and play well, is obscene.What kind of game punishes its most dedicated players?

Yes we dont want to crush players new to pvp. But the decay system for MMR needs an update badly.

Right now, every 5 minutes the game "lowers" your mmr for matchmaking purposes, and only on 5 minute intervals. If there arent sufficient high mmr players, 15-20 minute waits are very common.

Solution: make MMR decay every 2-3 minutes instead of every 5.

sproattt

As far as XB EU goes, the same groups and zergs that roam the wilderness spamming stuns, roots and slows.
Gets boring after 30 minutes as 85% of now my playtime in PvP is either escaping groups n zergs and that isn't worth my time anymore.

GL getting a BG on XB EU... Either your in an instance solo or your fighting 2 premade teams. Or even better, you que and no one ever joins and your waiting 30/60 mins in the void of ' someone has left the que ' glitch that keeps asking you to join the BG but never does, and if your lucky and you get a BG.... It doesn't allow you to leave after the game and you receive a 15 min penalty.

MentalxHammer

Alag wrote: »

BG queue doesn't work? Me and my friend joined several BGs during yesterday and today, it worked well.

It only works consistently when you queue with multiples, solo queues are very broken