Black Friday PC / EU, help me understand something please

IceQQueen
IceQQueen
Soul Shriven
Hello, returning player here. I started playing again couple of weeks ago, and I only have the standard version of ESO since I quit in May 2014.

I wanted to upgrade to Elsweyr, but I'm kinda confused.

So, there are two digital upgrades offers here:

https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/store/product/eso_elsweyr_upgrade_ce - Elsweyr Collector's Edition, 16.5 Euro
https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/store/product/eso_elsweyr_upgrade - Elsweyr, 13.5 Euro

but neither of those includes Summerset or Morrowind.

But there's also this offer:

https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/store/product/eso_elsweyr_edition for 19 Euro, which includes Morrowind and Summerset.

but this is not a game upgrade pack, it's like purchasing ESO again...? Can I buy this pack to add Elsweyr, Morrowind and Summerset to my existing account?

Sorry if my question is stupid and thanks in advance.
  • RefLiberty
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    IceQQueen wrote: »
    Hello, returning player here. I started playing again couple of weeks ago, and I only have the standard version of ESO since I quit in May 2014.
    I wanted to upgrade to Elsweyr, but I'm kinda confused.

    So, there are two digital upgrades offers here:

    https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/store/product/eso_elsweyr_upgrade_ce - Elsweyr Collector's Edition, 16.5 Euro
    https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/store/product/eso_elsweyr_upgrade - Elsweyr, 13.5 Euro

    but neither of those includes Summerset or Morrowind.

    But there's also this offer:

    https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/store/product/eso_elsweyr_edition for 19 Euro, which includes Morrowind and Summerset.

    but this is not a game upgrade pack, it's like purchasing ESO again...? Can I buy this pack to add Elsweyr, Morrowind and Summerset to my existing account?

    Sorry if my question is stupid and thanks in advance.


    It is very simple really. When we are talking about standard offer

    Editions that have UPGRADE in the name are for the players that already purchased previous content and they only need latest expansion.

    UPGRADE
    In that category you have:
    Elsweyr™ Digital Collector’s Edition Upgrade - 49.99 (now 16.49)
    Elsweyr™ Digital Upgrade - 39.99 (now 13.39)

    Upgrade editions do NOT(!) have previous content and base game is required to play. Collector edition on UPGRADE version are just those collectors items and mounts.

    STANDARD:
    Standard edition version with all expansions.
    Those editions are for new players that never played or purchased anything, so they are bundle.
    They Includes access to The Elder Scrolls Online Base Game, Morrowind™ Chapter, Summerset™ Chapter, and Elsweyr Chapter.

    In that category you have:
    Elsweyr™ Digital Collector’s Edition - 79.99 (now 26.39)
    Elsweyr™ Digital Standard Edition - 59.99 (now 19.79)

    So both of the two include access to Online Base Game, Morrowind™ Chapter, Summerset™ Chapter, and Elsweyr Chapter.
    and ofc Collectors again comes with mounts and those other collector items.


    And at the end, you have Standard Edition - thats just a base game without any expansions - 19.99 (now 9.99)




    Edited by RefLiberty on November 26, 2019 5:51PM
  • Acrolas
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    Standard editions typically work like upgrades. You just won't receive a standalone code for things like the base game that you already have.

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  • FierceSam
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    The 19 euro pack will give you the last 3 chapters - Morrowind, Summerset and Elsweyr, and includes access to the base game.

    You will be buying this via your account, so the chapters should be added to your existing account. (But that’s just my reading of it)

    I agree that ZOS should really write their product descriptions in ways that real people can understand. Because the gibberish they put on these pages is often unintelligible. It’s almost as if they deliberately want to cheat people.

  • RefLiberty
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    Acrolas wrote: »
    Standard editions typically work like upgrades. You just won't receive a standalone code for things like the base game that you already have.

    Nope. wrong, standard are the opposite.
  • IceQQueen
    IceQQueen
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    FierceSam wrote: »
    The 19 euro pack will give you the last 3 chapters - Morrowind, Summerset and Elsweyr, and includes access to the base game.

    You will be buying this via your account, so the chapters should be added to your existing account. (But that’s just my reading of it)

    I agree that ZOS should really write their product descriptions in ways that real people can understand. Because the gibberish they put on these pages is often unintelligible. It’s almost as if they deliberately want to cheat people.

    That's what I'm worried about. That this is not supposed to be a digital upgrade for existing players, so paying 19.5 Euro for the full ESO:Elsweyr which includes Morrowind and Summerset might not work for existing accounts.

    Otherwise I don't get why it's 16 Euro to upgrade just to Elsweyr and those 2 chapters aren't included
  • RefLiberty
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    IceQQueen wrote: »

    but this is not a game upgrade pack, it's like purchasing ESO again...? Can I buy this pack to add Elsweyr, Morrowind and Summerset to my existing account?

    Sorry if my question is stupid and thanks in advance.

    Since you already have just a Base game, and to answer your question more directly, in your case for your would be the best option to buy Elsweyr Digital Standard Edition for 19.79 (or Collectros) because besides Elsweyr, you will also get get the Morrowind and Summerset in budle.

    BUT

    The are 3rd and the 4th option, yes there are 2 more options.

    3rd option is to buy Elsweyr Digital Upgrade for 13.19, and then you can slowly upgrade through DLC Crown Shop if you woild like to unlock forever
    https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/crownstore/category/1

    Or you can buy Elsweyr Digital Upgrade for 13.19 and take ESO+ subscription and gain access to all DLC while the sub is active.
  • Acrolas
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    RefLiberty wrote: »
    Nope. wrong, standard are the opposite.

    Opposite of what?

    You can redeem standard editions on existing accounts. But as it's a single code on your billing history, you won't get a prorate for content you already have.

    If you log in to your account and you cannot use the edition on your account, you will not be able to click Buy Now. It will say You Do Not Qualify For This Product.
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  • IceQQueen
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    RefLiberty wrote: »
    It is very simple really. When we are talking about standard offer

    Editions that have UPGRADE in the name are for the players that already purchased previous content and they only need latest expansion.

    UPGRADE
    In that category you have:
    Elsweyr™ Digital Collector’s Edition Upgrade - 49.99 (now 16.49)
    Elsweyr™ Digital Upgrade - 39.99 (now 13.39)

    Upgrade editions do NOT(!) have previous content and base game is required to play. Collector edition on UPGRADE version are just those collectors items and mounts.

    STANDARD:
    Standard edition version with all expansions.
    Those editions are for new players that never played or purchased anything, so they are bundle.
    They Includes access to The Elder Scrolls Online Base Game, Morrowind™ Chapter, Summerset™ Chapter, and Elsweyr Chapter.

    In that category you have:
    Elsweyr™ Digital Collector’s Edition - 79.99 (now 26.39)
    Elsweyr™ Digital Standard Edition - 59.99 (now 19.79)

    So both of the two include access to Online Base Game, Morrowind™ Chapter, Summerset™ Chapter, and Elsweyr Chapter.
    and ofc Collectors again comes with mounts and those other collector items.


    And at the end, you have Standard Edition - thats just a base game without any expansions - 19.99 (now 9.99)

    I understand the concept behind it. What I am asking is, since I have ESO already, can I buy the 19.79 Elsweyr bundle **which is not meant to be an upgrade**, and includes Morrowind and Summerset, and have those 3 chapters added to my account?
  • RefLiberty
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    Acrolas wrote: »
    RefLiberty wrote: »
    Nope. wrong, standard are the opposite.

    Opposite of what?

    You can redeem standard editions on existing accounts. But as it's a single code on your billing history, you won't get a prorate for content you already have.

    If you log in to your account and you cannot use the edition on your account, you will not be able to click Buy Now. It will say You Do Not Qualify For This Product.

    Just leave it, you have my posts above. OFC it will not be prorate.
    Edited by RefLiberty on November 26, 2019 6:11PM
  • eklhaftb16_ESO
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    RefLiberty wrote: »
    And at the end, you have Standard Edition - thats just a base game without any expansions - 19.99 (now 9.99)

    OK, now I'm confused too: I bought the Standard during the recent free trial week, and Morrowind was included with it.
  • RefLiberty
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    RefLiberty wrote: »
    And at the end, you have Standard Edition - thats just a base game without any expansions - 19.99 (now 9.99)

    OK, now I'm confused too: I bought the Standard during the recent free trial week, and Morrowind was included with it.

    Edit:

    so again:

    If you You bought: https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/store/product/eso_elsweyr_edition
    You got: Morrowind™ Chapter, Summerset™ Chapter, and Elsweyr


    if you both this one: https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/store/product/eso_standard
    You got The Elder Scrolls Online base game and the Morrowind chapter.
    So yes, my mistake, they added Morrowind in Base version, but you don't have Elsweyr which is latest expansion and Summerset
    Edited by RefLiberty on November 26, 2019 6:25PM
  • IceQQueen
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    Okay, so I just purchased the 19.79 version of Elsweyr which is supposed to be the base game + Elsweyr + Morrowind + Summerset. Even though it's not meant to be an upgrade for existing players, it did unlock all of them on my existing account.

    So it's pointless for anyone who doesn't have Morrowind and Summerset to just buy Elsweyr for like 15 Euro from the "Digital upgrades" options.

    Instead, buy the 19.79 full game version of Elsweyr, as it includes all 3 chapters.
  • RefLiberty
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    IceQQueen wrote: »
    I understand the concept behind it. What I am asking is, since I have ESO already, can I buy the 19.79 Elsweyr bundle **which is not meant to be an upgrade**, and includes Morrowind and Summerset, and have those 3 chapters added to my account?

    I don't see any reasons why you should not be able to upgrade with that version.

    Basically you can log in to your account with Base game and select purchase that one, if all is good and your account qualify , on the rights side you should be able to see the list what are you getting with the bundle, it should look like this:

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    Also, keep in mind that DLC's are now available with ESO+, so that is the option too.



  • RefLiberty
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    IceQQueen wrote: »
    Okay, so I just purchased the 19.79 version of Elsweyr which is supposed to be the base game + Elsweyr + Morrowind + Summerset. Even though it's not meant to be an upgrade for existing players, it did unlock all of them on my existing account.

    So it's pointless for anyone who doesn't have Morrowind and Summerset to just buy Elsweyr for like 15 Euro from the "Digital upgrades" options.

    Instead, buy the 19.79 full game version of Elsweyr, as it includes all 3 chapters.

    I agree with you. I would also go for that option in your place.
    But this is ZOS and they have Crown shop.

    So the story behind this is that you can get the upgrade version to get Elsweyr and then ESO+ subscription, because Morrowind and Summerset are now in DLC category, and ESO+ give access to all DLC's, so they put it like that also.

    But yes, I would also select like you in your place.

    Edit:
    Also, when some people are choosing options, keep in mind that standard prices are much different:
    Elsweyr Digital Upgrade - 39.99 (now 13.39)
    Elsweyr Digital Standard Edition - 59.99 (now 19.79)

    So some people go with 39.99 and ESO+ to access DLC's (especially if they plan to be subbed all the time), or just to cheaper upgrade version and then slowly upgrade through DLC crown shop.
    Edited by RefLiberty on November 26, 2019 6:38PM
  • IceQQueen
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    Thanks for your help!

    Yeah well, still, if someone decides to stop being a member, it's nice knowing you have Morrowind and Summerset anyway, they are more important that most DLCs for end-game content.

    I plan to buy Orsinium using Crowns, and I don't think I'd need an ESO+ after that since I'm not really into crafting and the bag wouldn't help much - maxed out bank and char inventory slots are more than enough.
  • RefLiberty
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    IceQQueen wrote: »
    Thanks for your help!

    Yeah well, still, if someone decides to stop being a member, it's nice knowing you have Morrowind and Summerset anyway, they are more important that most DLCs for end-game content.

    I plan to buy Orsinium using Crowns, and I don't think I'd need an ESO+ after that since I'm not really into crafting and the bag wouldn't help much - maxed out bank and char inventory slots are more than enough.

    Again, I agree, but keep in mind that ESO+ is not bag and Morrowind / Summerset, the DLC list now is quite long:
    https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/crownstore/category/1



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