For a healer what to transmute Ebon to?

LordLomax

As a healer I’m beginning to use Ebon more for end game trials but can not find what I need to transmute the jewellery to I presume it will be arcane to get the magic back ? Please can someone tell me what they use ??

tmbrinks

LordLomax wrote: »

As a healer I’m beginning to use Ebon more for end game trials but can not find what I need to transmute the jewellery to I presume it will be arcane to get the magic back ? Please can someone tell me what they use ??

somewhat depends on your preference... but either Arcane or Infused

Jem_Kindheart

Either 3 Arcane or 2 Arcane and 1 Infused. With the Ebon in particular, since you're losing an entire 5-piece in what would be a magicka set for in exchange for a health set, and because you may have to use a couple of the heavy body pieces till you get get staves to drop, strongly consider 1 Infused jewelry with a Reduce Spell Cost glyph. Try that a bit, and worst case, gold glyphs are only 4k gold, put on a Regen glyph if you don't like the cost reduction.

agingerinohio

As a healer for end game content, I would suggest using healing sets not a tank set. Most end game tanks will already be wearing Ebon and you will more than likely be asked to switch sets. But if you already work with a group that is okay with you wearing that, then you will definitely want Arcane.

OG_Kaveman

agingerinohio wrote: »

As a healer for end game content, I would suggest using healing sets not a tank set. Most end game tanks will already be wearing Ebon and you will more than likely be asked to switch sets. But if you already work with a group that is okay with you wearing that, then you will definitely want Arcane.

Thing is, some end game strats have the healer wearing ebon, I have seen one healer in vAS using it, so ebon is relevant to end gamer healers.

Tsar_Gekkou

OG_Kaveman wrote: »

agingerinohio wrote: »

As a healer for end game content, I would suggest using healing sets not a tank set. Most end game tanks will already be wearing Ebon and you will more than likely be asked to switch sets. But if you already work with a group that is okay with you wearing that, then you will definitely want Arcane.

Thing is, some end game strats have the healer wearing ebon, I have seen one healer in vAS using it, so ebon is relevant to end gamer healers.

Is this for Immortal Redeemer runs or just progression? I haven't heard of this yet.

AgaTheGreat

As an end game tank I would advise you not to use ebon on a healer. Use torugs instead so if you need ebon the tank can wear it

tmbrinks

AgaTheGreat wrote: »

As an end game tank I would advise you not to use ebon on a healer. Use torugs instead so if you need ebon the tank can wear it

The OP is talking about organized groups, where they've all talked and decided who is going to wear what. Not PUG groups where you have no clue what the tanks are going to wear.

OG_Kaveman wrote: »

agingerinohio wrote: »

As a healer for end game content, I would suggest using healing sets not a tank set. Most end game tanks will already be wearing Ebon and you will more than likely be asked to switch sets. But if you already work with a group that is okay with you wearing that, then you will definitely want Arcane.

Thing is, some end game strats have the healer wearing ebon, I have seen one healer in vAS using it, so ebon is relevant to end gamer healers.

Haven't seen it in vAS (assuming it'd be on the group healer), but healer certainly can wear it for vCR +3 since they are in group the whole time.

ayu_fever

i changed 2 ebon jewelry to arcane and left 1 with healthy. all got a spell dmg enchant.
i get just over 18k health this way and my mag regen was still over 2500.

more max health was gained from the heavy armor passive because i wear chest and legs instead of weapons but thats because i cant get the ebon lightning staff to drop LOL!

EDIT: oh and make sure you use the ghastly eyebowl food when wearing ebon!!! youll be glad you did. pinky swear.

Mancombe_Nosehair

If more than one group member has ebon, does it double the benefit?

Asardes

Triune is also a decent option, since it gives you some stamina too.

Streega

luton0watford4 wrote: »

If more than one group member has ebon, does it double the benefit?

No, it doesn't.

Zombabe1

Yes our group healer wears ebon for VCR.
I believe they transmuted to arcane.

hasi

Hmm, there are varies Choices!
I prefer to use Full Arcane, but 1 Infused and 2 Arcane also works.

If you need to be fast, like in VCR+3 at times, 2 Swift 1 Arcane is okay aswell. I personally don't need that, but I saw People use it.🙂

hasi

agingerinohio wrote: »

As a healer for end game content, I would suggest using healing sets not a tank set. Most end game tanks will already be wearing Ebon and you will more than likely be asked to switch sets. But if you already work with a group that is okay with you wearing that, then you will definitely want Arcane.

Healers using Healing Sets - that's out of trend for how long already?

Most BiS Sets for Healers are Debuff/Buff Sets nowadays and barely involve healing anything. Also counts in using Ebon, especially because Tanks prefer to use Sets like Alkosh, Yolna, Hircine and what-not in Endgame these Days.

Mancombe_Nosehair

Streega wrote: »

luton0watford4 wrote: »

If more than one group member has ebon, does it double the benefit?

No, it doesn't.

Thanks.

Varana

Has the Ebon weapon swapping bug been fixed? As far as I know (and contrary to patch notes), it's still there, so I assume you just ignore the problem?

Royaji

Varana wrote: »

Has the Ebon weapon swapping bug been fixed? As far as I know (and contrary to patch notes), it's still there, so I assume you just ignore the problem?

You go with jewelry and two armor pieces and wear 5/2

Jem_Kindheart

Yeah, for vCR and vAS+2, a healer wearing Ebon is a common strategy. I still disagree with it, because I think it does indeed reduce that healers' raw healing output. But this is what raid leaders want so... Been asked to wear Hircines lately sometimes too, especially after the sustain nerfs, again I think that is a mistake to cripple a healer instead of asking one of 8 dps to wear a stamina set (Hircines) or make the sacrifice in one dps to wear Ebon instead of a healer. But... I do what I'm asked of to.

tmbrinks

Jem_Kindheart wrote: »

Yeah, for vCR and vAS+2, a healer wearing Ebon is a common strategy. I still disagree with it, because I think it does indeed reduce that healers' raw healing output. But this is what raid leaders want so... Been asked to wear Hircines lately sometimes too, especially after the sustain nerfs, again I think that is a mistake to cripple a healer instead of asking one of 8 dps to wear a stamina set (Hircines) or make the sacrifice in one dps to wear Ebon instead of a healer. But... I do what I'm asked of to.

while I agree that it does "reduce the raw healing output" there aren't many circumstances that require maximum healing output. A majority of the time healers are there to debuff the boss, and buff the group, which is what those sets do. By the time you're in optimized groups that are asking the healers to wear Ebon and/or Hircine (Throw Z'ens and Martial Knowledge in there too) the DPS should be at a level where they are avoiding as much of the damage as possible.

Olupajmibanan

I don't get what's the deal with Ebon on healers. Yolnak and Alkosh are necessary only on 1 tank but it is good to have Alkosh on both tanks for solid uptime. That leaves you with one open slot for a heavy-armor support set. And there certainly aren't many options, Dragon and Ebon being the best of them. But would you really have your healer go with Ebon and tank with Dragon, when you can have tank with Ebon and healer with Jorvuld? Not even saying that Jorvuld slightly overperforms Dragon in terms of Major Force uptime.

But whatever, if raid leader orders so, you must obey. Arguing may bring you into trouble.

In our vCR+3 progression group, two tanks that go downstairs and swap Z'maja wear Yolnak and the third tank that takes care of mini bosses wears Ebon. We do it for the exact reason I stated above. This third tank is with the group always anyways.

RogueShark

Jem_Kindheart wrote: »

Yeah, for vCR and vAS+2, a healer wearing Ebon is a common strategy. I still disagree with it, because I think it does indeed reduce that healers' raw healing output. But this is what raid leaders want so... Been asked to wear Hircines lately sometimes too, especially after the sustain nerfs, again I think that is a mistake to cripple a healer instead of asking one of 8 dps to wear a stamina set (Hircines) or make the sacrifice in one dps to wear Ebon instead of a healer. But... I do what I'm asked of to.

It comes down to the fact that it's more beneficial for the group to have DPS in DPS gear than a healer in raw healing gear. Like tmbrinks says: if you're in a raid where your healers are set up to run hircine, zen's and martial knowledge or other non-healing sets, it's because the group is at a point where a healer "healing more" is redundant and useless. It's better to be supporting your DPS at this point so they can kill the boss faster.

idk

agingerinohio wrote: »

As a healer for end game content, I would suggest using healing sets not a tank set. Most end game tanks will already be wearing Ebon and you will more than likely be asked to switch sets. But if you already work with a group that is okay with you wearing that, then you will definitely want Arcane.

My guess is their raid leader is asking for them to wear Ebon.

WrathOfInnos

Olupajmibanan wrote: »

I don't get what's the deal with Ebon on healers. Yolnak and Alkosh are necessary only on 1 tank but it is good to have Alkosh on both tanks for solid uptime. That leaves you with one open slot for a heavy-armor support set. And there certainly aren't many options, Dragon and Ebon being the best of them. But would you really have your healer go with Ebon and tank with Dragon, when you can have tank with Ebon and healer with Jorvuld? Not even saying that Jorvuld slightly overperforms Dragon in terms of Major Force uptime.

But whatever, if raid leader orders so, you must obey. Arguing may bring you into trouble.

In our vCR+3 progression group, two tanks that go downstairs and swap Z'maja wear Yolnak and the third tank that takes care of mini bosses wears Ebon. We do it for the exact reason I stated above. This third tank is with the group always anyways.

It depends on the strat. We used to have a main tank always on ZMaja and the 2 off tanks would alternate going into the portal. In that case you can’t have the OT in Ebon or uptimes would be terrible. With MT in Yol + Alkosh that leaves one of the healers responsible for Ebon. I don’t run much vCR these days, so can’t comment on the current best strat.

Personally I’m not a big fan of Jorvulds. A few more seconds of Major Force is not worth a 5pc set. Olo, Worm, Hollowfang, Torugs, Martial, and Z’en’s are all better options IMO (though some of these are admittedly more difficult to use than Jorv, so maybe not for progression groups).

agingerinohio

Okay, well that all makes a lot more sense now. Lol Thank you everyone for being informative.