Still no update on cp?

Shadowasrial

It’s been a year since we have gotten more cp. The last thing they told us was for the foreseeable future it wouldn’t be raised until they worked out how it would be changed. So far we have received no insight on what direction they are going. It would be nice if someone on the @ZOS team could give us some insight. Even if it’s not close to finished it would be nice to know what the idea they have planned for it is.

Vapirko

I think they have their hands full lol.

molecule

sssshhh!

they are hoping you had forgotten.

cyclonus11

Acquire 15 baubles, 10 tickets each from events, for a 20CP increase.

virtus753

Last we heard they were still in the “design” phase. (That’s from the roadmap for performance improvements, I believe.)

I take that to mean they have no idea what they’re going to do yet and likely no idea when they will.

LuxLunae

Shadowasrial wrote: »

It’s been a year since we have gotten more cp. The last thing they told us was for the foreseeable future it wouldn’t be raised until they worked out how it would be changed. So far we have received no insight on what direction they are going. It would be nice if someone on the @ZOS team could give us some insight. Even if it’s not close to finished it would be nice to know what the idea they have planned for it is.

CP is a broken system and should be in there with hell..

kojou

They should just leave it at 810 indefinitely. Anything they do to fix it will only make things worse and will likely be a waste of time.

Instead focus on performance issues, getting combat to a fun state, and adding new content.

Shadowasrial

kojou wrote: »

They should just leave it at 810 indefinitely. Anything they do to fix it will only make things worse and will likely be a waste of time.

Instead focus on performance issues, getting combat to a fun state, and adding new content.

I agree but I have 1500 champion points sitting unused

Skall66

A lot of players whined to have CP removed, no more grind and 'vertical' evolution.
So I think CP will be completely removed, character progression will be done via gear update and new skill lines, of course, to obtain those you will have to buy chapters and DLCs, but that's what players asked for.

IndianaJames7

Simmer the frick down... so much is broken atm the last thing they need to do is rebalance another aspect of the game. People have complained about performance for a long time (with good reason) but currently it’s so bad even ZOS must acknowledge that is the first priority.

Shadowasrial

IndianaJames7 wrote: »

Simmer the frick down... so much is broken atm the last thing they need to do is rebalance another aspect of the game. People have complained about performance for a long time (with good reason) but currently it’s so bad even ZOS must acknowledge that is the first priority.

No one is aggressive here we are just asking for an update on what direction it’s headed

roflcopter

IndianaJames7 wrote: »

Simmer the frick down... so much is broken atm the last thing they need to do is rebalance another aspect of the game. People have complained about performance for a long time (with good reason) but currently it’s so bad even ZOS must acknowledge that is the first priority.

lol

Maxx7410

We need something for pregression

Emma_Overload

810 is a lame place to stop. They should raise us up to 1080, so we can at least get all the passives. Past that, I don't care.

CP is the last thing causing problems in this game, regardless of the nonsense you hear on the forums. CP "power creep" is a myth compared to all the ridiculously overpowered gear that has been introduced with each DLC. Every other problem supposedly caused by CP can be solved with Battle Spirit or by re-balancing the mobs. The rest of the complaints are coming from lazy casuals who don't want to grind their account to max level.

In my opinion, they could raise the CP cap all the way to 1600 (half the maximum possible), and the game would be fine.

IndianaJames7

Shadowasrial wrote: »

kojou wrote: »

They should just leave it at 810 indefinitely. Anything they do to fix it will only make things worse and will likely be a waste of time.

Instead focus on performance issues, getting combat to a fun state, and adding new content.

I agree but I have 1500 champion points sitting unused

How is that a problem? You are still able to flex in game and on the forums about how much cp you have, which is about all cp should do once you get that much. I personally don’t think that people who have put 10k hours in this game should continue to get an advantage over newer players because of cp (I’m guessing you playtime is somewhere around there based on my own cp vs time spent). The amount of in game experience you should have gained while getting those points should be enough of an advantage in itself.

big_ear_midget

Shadowasrial wrote: »

It’s been a year since we have gotten more cp. The last thing they told us was for the foreseeable future it wouldn’t be raised until they worked out how it would be changed. So far we have received no insight on what direction they are going. It would be nice if someone on the @ZOS team could give us some insight. Even if it’s not close to finished it would be nice to know what the idea they have planned for it is.

We are still waiting on them to fix bosner stealth. They gave us a crappy darloc brae set which means we can only use one damage set if we use that, not really the fix we were promised, and they have closed any threads regarding this as irrevelant and out of date.

You should know by now that all of ZOS's comments are worth ***. That they make grand proposals after screwing people over over to revisit unpopular revisions and then close and ignore any threads or demands until the community moves on to the next source of outrage. So lol to getting a CP rewrite ...just like bosner stealth.

theyancey

Every RPG has character development levels. Except ESO now. This will be one of the major issues when I decide to renew my ESO+ in May.

barney2525

Yes, it is high time we were told how they are going to fix those Camouflaged Penguins!

casparian

Updating CP isn't something they can advertise to new players to attract people to the game, like dragons, events, cosmetic rewards, and cat people. It's not ever going to be a priority.

DaNnYtHePcFrEaK

IndianaJames7 wrote: »

Shadowasrial wrote: »

kojou wrote: »

They should just leave it at 810 indefinitely. Anything they do to fix it will only make things worse and will likely be a waste of time.

Instead focus on performance issues, getting combat to a fun state, and adding new content.

I agree but I have 1500 champion points sitting unused

How is that a problem? You are still able to flex in game and on the forums about how much cp you have, which is about all cp should do once you get that much. I personally don’t think that people who have put 10k hours in this game should continue to get an advantage over newer players because of cp (I’m guessing you playtime is somewhere around there based on my own cp vs time spent). The amount of in game experience you should have gained while getting those points should be enough of an advantage in itself.

I dOnT tHiNk ThAt PeOpLe WhO hAvE pUt 10k HoUrS iN tHiS gAeM sHoUlD gEt An AdVaNtAgE oVeR nEwEr PlAyAz CoZ oV cP

You serious???

EmEm_Oh

IndianaJames7 wrote: »

Shadowasrial wrote: »

kojou wrote: »

They should just leave it at 810 indefinitely. Anything they do to fix it will only make things worse and will likely be a waste of time.

Instead focus on performance issues, getting combat to a fun state, and adding new content.

I agree but I have 1500 champion points sitting unused

How is that a problem? You are still able to flex in game and on the forums about how much cp you have, which is about all cp should do once you get that much. I personally don’t think that people who have put 10k hours in this game should continue to get an advantage over newer players because of cp (I’m guessing you playtime is somewhere around there based on my own cp vs time spent). The amount of in game experience you should have gained while getting those points should be enough of an advantage in itself.

That's like telling somebody who worked at a company for 30 years, put in their time, and expect something out of it...only to get a nice pat on the back and kick in the ass out the door.

Eventually, the fact is, the players that have been here the longest or have over 810 CP, need to be able to flex it in game. It's not that terrible, it won't OP anything to any significance, and if anything...new players will seek us out to carry them through tough areas (well, not me really as I'm only hovering at around 1220).

ESO has tried the One-Fit-For-Everyone, and it's not going to work out, if ESO wants to retain their longtime players.

That being said, I'm still amazed at the great artwork, and in my opinion, it's not being fully utilized, but not by the artists...but thanks to old code and orphaned code (we know it exists) that needs massive rewrite and audits. I'd be ok with ESO being limited if we were told this and were told it would be several months in the process, and in the meantime, we'd have to deal with what we got, and could change hourly. I'd be ok with that, as long as I knew there was light at the end of the tunnel.

My thinking is ESO wants to do a lot of great things...but they are being hindered by the code, by some outdated systems, and just don't know what to do because possibly...the guys who know the code, are gone and won't come back.

Frozen_Heart246

I think would be cool if they just leave 810 CP cap. All above 810 will transfer into a new currency or some sort of that and you can buy some stuff. Cosmetic stuff (or whatever) in exchange for progress not bad i think.

But still it will not fix all the problems that CP system have so yeah.. People just too used to CP so if it will be removed and not be replaced by something similar or better they will be in rage. And you remember last patch right? That rollercoaster skill balancing and full incompetence. I don’t think they will replace or improve the cp system just to not break anything.

Jayne_Doe

Skall66 wrote: »

A lot of players whined to have CP removed, no more grind and 'vertical' evolution.
So I think CP will be completely removed, character progression will be done via gear update and new skill lines, of course, to obtain those you will have to buy chapters and DLCs, but that's what players asked for.

First, not all players asked for this, I certainly didn't.

Second, since when does ZOS do what players ask for?

I'd like for CP to stay in the game, or at least some sort of progression system. But, I think that they've got a lot of work ahead of them before even being able to address the future of CP.

Dosuul

My guess would be, the overhaul comes with the next chapter.

Already looking forward to the 2020 announcements.

Goregrinder

Skall66 wrote: »

A lot of players whined to have CP removed, no more grind and 'vertical' evolution.
So I think CP will be completely removed, character progression will be done via gear update and new skill lines, of course, to obtain those you will have to buy chapters and DLCs, but that's what players asked for.

I can't wait.

IndianaJames7

DaNnYtHePcFrEaK wrote: »

IndianaJames7 wrote: »

Shadowasrial wrote: »

kojou wrote: »

They should just leave it at 810 indefinitely. Anything they do to fix it will only make things worse and will likely be a waste of time.

Instead focus on performance issues, getting combat to a fun state, and adding new content.

I agree but I have 1500 champion points sitting unused

How is that a problem? You are still able to flex in game and on the forums about how much cp you have, which is about all cp should do once you get that much. I personally don’t think that people who have put 10k hours in this game should continue to get an advantage over newer players because of cp (I’m guessing you playtime is somewhere around there based on my own cp vs time spent). The amount of in game experience you should have gained while getting those points should be enough of an advantage in itself.

I dOnT tHiNk ThAt PeOpLe WhO hAvE pUt 10k HoUrS iN tHiS gAeM sHoUlD gEt An AdVaNtAgE oVeR nEwEr PlAyAz CoZ oV cP

You serious???

There is a difference between giving players advantages as they progress through the game and continuing to reward people in a mmo who have put such a ridiculous amount of hours into it that even most active players will never come anywhere close to reaching.

Not that CP is that big of an advantage past a certain point as others have mentioned due to diminishing returns. The whole thing just seems like a non issue, and is the last thing ZOS should be spending their time looking at right now.

Edit: removed insult to the comment’s TeXt UsEd before mod removes my comment

regime211

Shadowasrial wrote: »

It’s been a year since we have gotten more cp. The last thing they told us was for the foreseeable future it wouldn’t be raised until they worked out how it would be changed. So far we have received no insight on what direction they are going. It would be nice if someone on the @ZOS team could give us some insight. Even if it’s not close to finished it would be nice to know what the idea they have planned for it is.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 "CP" you say???

regime211

Shadowasrial wrote: »

kojou wrote: »

They should just leave it at 810 indefinitely. Anything they do to fix it will only make things worse and will likely be a waste of time.

Instead focus on performance issues, getting combat to a fun state, and adding new content.

I agree but I have 1500 champion points sitting unused

They will just sit there cuh lol

DaNnYtHePcFrEaK

IndianaJames7 wrote: »

DaNnYtHePcFrEaK wrote: »

IndianaJames7 wrote: »

Shadowasrial wrote: »

kojou wrote: »

They should just leave it at 810 indefinitely. Anything they do to fix it will only make things worse and will likely be a waste of time.

Instead focus on performance issues, getting combat to a fun state, and adding new content.

I agree but I have 1500 champion points sitting unused

How is that a problem? You are still able to flex in game and on the forums about how much cp you have, which is about all cp should do once you get that much. I personally don’t think that people who have put 10k hours in this game should continue to get an advantage over newer players because of cp (I’m guessing you playtime is somewhere around there based on my own cp vs time spent). The amount of in game experience you should have gained while getting those points should be enough of an advantage in itself.

I dOnT tHiNk ThAt PeOpLe WhO hAvE pUt 10k HoUrS iN tHiS gAeM sHoUlD gEt An AdVaNtAgE oVeR nEwEr PlAyAz CoZ oV cP

You serious???

There is a difference between giving players advantages as they progress through the game and continuing to reward people in a mmo who have put such a ridiculous amount of hours into it that even most active players will never come anywhere close to reaching.

Not that CP is that big of an advantage past a certain point as others have mentioned due to diminishing returns. The whole thing just seems like a non issue, and is the last thing ZOS should be spending their time looking at right now.

Edit: removed insult to the comment’s TeXt UsEd before mod removes my comment

If I play the game 2 years solid and learn everything there is to know.... damn right I should smash a new player to bits.... oh I'll go join an MMA gym, fight the professional then cry that he has more experience than me....

pod88kk

cyclonus11 wrote: »

Acquire 15 baubles, 10 tickets each from events, for a 20CP increase.

But only 5 Baubles and 3 tickets are available from the event.....the rest are available in the Crown Store

IndianaJames7

That is precisely the point I am making. You should be able to smash new players just as a pro fighter could destroy you in MMA due to the skill and experience attained to get there. CP has nothing to do with skill, it is essentially a handicap, but one that advantages people who you would expect would be better at the game, not newer players who handicaps are typically given to.

A more accurate analogy would be if tiger woods was teeing off from the markers closest to the green, while average golfers hit from regular tees, and beginners hit from the ones furthest from the green.