Nord Stam necro

BoaNoite

is it worth making a nord stam necro this patch? if so which sets would be good?

deLioncourt

It's never worth it to make a nord for any reason.

Sparr0w

Nord is completely viable, not the best option, but you get extra health passives, resistances and still get some max stamina. Plus they are one of the best tanking races & a great PVP race so you have flexibility there

Asardes

deLioncourt wrote: »

It's never worth it to make a nord for any reason.

Actually Nord is quite a good choice for PvE tanking and PvP trough and trough. You can play in 5M2H and have the same resistance as races w/o resistance passives in 5H2M - more damage, more sustain. You will also have better ultimate generation, since there will be always something to damage you. The chilled status effect immunity makes you tankier against magicka Wardens or even some DKs and Templars that use frost staves.

NordSwordnBoard

Nord helps with the expensive class ultimates as well from the ulti gen.

MentalxHammer

Yes that would perform well for pvp, nord is a very strong race, I play nord on all my stam classes. For PvE it would only make sense if you were a tank.

MentalxHammer

deLioncourt wrote: »

It's never worth it to make a nord for any reason.

Ur bad

RMerlin

NordSwordnBoard wrote: »

Nord helps with the expensive class ultimates as well from the ulti gen.

And since ultimates are the meat and gravy of the stam necro at this point, it makes for a good combo IMHO.

My stamcro tank is also a Nord.

However, the main issue is the state of the stamcro in itself. I don't play mine as much anymore. Since all the nerfs to the 2H skills, my tank now hits like a wet noodle (and due to climate changes, this noodle won't freeze anymore, so it stays floppy ) The nerfs to bleed and carve, combined with the broken mechanisms of corpse targeting and blastbone pathing, and the inability to cast Dawnbreaker since they added a cast time that makes it fail to cast in any laggy situation, makes it hard to kill anything anymore with it.

If you want to tank troll, you might have some fun with it... for a time.

ChefZero

Yes but I prefer Imperial.

katorga

Nord is great. Necro, not so much.

That said, I used a free race change to swap to Dunmer...the mag/spell damage passives and hybrid-y sets bump my base stats just high enough to make class healing usable on a stam build. I found the raw stat density more useful than the armor and ulti-regen.

Ragnarock41

deLioncourt wrote: »

It's never worth it to make a nord for any reason.

See this guy up there, don't be this guy.

MentalxHammer

For all the people bashing stam necro I agree the skills do have issues for open world; however, a stam necro did just win the legends dueling tournament on EU.

ChefZero

MentalxHammer wrote: »

For all the people bashing stam necro I agree the skills do have issues for open world; however, a stam necro did just win the legends dueling tournament on EU.

Do you know something about his/her setup?

Asardes

ChefZero wrote: »

Yes but I prefer Imperial.

Yes, Imperial is also a good choice, since Necromancer has a bit of a sustain issue, and that 3% cost reduction from racial passives helps a bit. It also applies to ultimate abilities, and will make Colossus faster to cast. The extra HP is not bad either. If you wanna DPS in PvP you can run parse food (Lava Foot & Saltrice Soup) without sacrificing any points in HP. You'll have almost 16K HP before Ebon and Major Toughness with 1L/5M/1H setup.

BoaNoite

front bar will be 2h, should back bar be dw for BRP dw? or what would anyone reccomend for back bar?

Iskiab

BoaNoite wrote: »

front bar will be 2h, should back bar be dw for BRP dw? or what would anyone reccomend for back bar?

Depends how on your playstyle, Bow or DW BRP both work.

Don’t listen to the haters, Nord’s definitely one of the best pvp races.

Think of it like your race gives you an almost full fortified brass set. 1H and 6m and will give more resistances then 5H builds on other races. I’d much rather have the 5m weapon damage bonus on a Nord then 200 some odd weapon damage bonus on a heavy build using another race.

MentalxHammer

ChefZero wrote: »

MentalxHammer wrote: »

For all the people bashing stam necro I agree the skills do have issues for open world; however, a stam necro did just win the legends dueling tournament on EU.

Do you know something about his/her setup?

It was Gupsy. Using front bar maul, back bar sword and board. He was using the corpse siphon heal, spirit guardian, vigor and rally for defensive mechanisms, as well as puncture, blast bones, skeletal archer, dizzying swing and executioner to dmg.

EtTuBrutus

Nord is a great stamina pvp race

Pauls

MentalxHammer wrote: »

ChefZero wrote: »

MentalxHammer wrote: »

For all the people bashing stam necro I agree the skills do have issues for open world; however, a stam necro did just win the legends dueling tournament on EU.

Do you know something about his/her setup?

It was Gupsy. Using front bar maul, back bar sword and board. He was using the corpse siphon heal, spirit guardian, vigor and rally for defensive mechanisms, as well as puncture, blast bones, skeletal archer, dizzying swing and executioner to dmg.

No dots? Thought necros rely on dots because its theit class advantage. And no proc sets (monster too) you noticed? Interesting.

Jimmy_The_Fixer

Pauls wrote: »

MentalxHammer wrote: »

ChefZero wrote: »

MentalxHammer wrote: »

For all the people bashing stam necro I agree the skills do have issues for open world; however, a stam necro did just win the legends dueling tournament on EU.

Do you know something about his/her setup?

It was Gupsy. Using front bar maul, back bar sword and board. He was using the corpse siphon heal, spirit guardian, vigor and rally for defensive mechanisms, as well as puncture, blast bones, skeletal archer, dizzying swing and executioner to dmg.

No dots? Thought necros rely on dots because its theit class advantage. And no proc sets (monster too) you noticed? Interesting.

Ive been maining a stamcro this patch with no dots. Dots are just so weak this patch that the necro passive isn’t enough to save them.

As for the necro dueling build, it’s not something you really want to play in open world. The whole thing is based on jumping around and cycling through your four healing spells just to kill time until your burst is up and trying to 1-shot your opponent with a Collossus combo.

MentalxHammer

Pauls wrote: »

MentalxHammer wrote: »

ChefZero wrote: »

MentalxHammer wrote: »

For all the people bashing stam necro I agree the skills do have issues for open world; however, a stam necro did just win the legends dueling tournament on EU.

Do you know something about his/her setup?

It was Gupsy. Using front bar maul, back bar sword and board. He was using the corpse siphon heal, spirit guardian, vigor and rally for defensive mechanisms, as well as puncture, blast bones, skeletal archer, dizzying swing and executioner to dmg.

No dots? Thought necros rely on dots because its theit class advantage. And no proc sets (monster too) you noticed? Interesting.

His main dot is skeletal archer, idk what monster set he was using.

Pauls

Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »

Pauls wrote: »

MentalxHammer wrote: »

ChefZero wrote: »

MentalxHammer wrote: »

For all the people bashing stam necro I agree the skills do have issues for open world; however, a stam necro did just win the legends dueling tournament on EU.

Do you know something about his/her setup?

It was Gupsy. Using front bar maul, back bar sword and board. He was using the corpse siphon heal, spirit guardian, vigor and rally for defensive mechanisms, as well as puncture, blast bones, skeletal archer, dizzying swing and executioner to dmg.

No dots? Thought necros rely on dots because its theit class advantage. And no proc sets (monster too) you noticed? Interesting.

Ive been maining a stamcro this patch with no dots. Dots are just so weak this patch that the necro passive isn’t enough to save them.

As for the necro dueling build, it’s not something you really want to play in open world. The whole thing is based on jumping around and cycling through your four healing spells just to kill time until your burst is up and trying to 1-shot your opponent with a Collossus combo.

Tried this skill setup (with some changes) wearing Fury, Bone Pirate and TK 5/2 heavy; no-CP campaign. Swapped siphon heal to necro potency for better ult feeding. In group fights using ress ulti instead of spell wall. Spirit guardian is very nice as defensive thing giving 10% mitigation all the time. Main weakness of build: you're slow and cant catch cloaking NBs or sorcs streaking away.
Should be more bursty with DBoS instead of colossus, with current lags coloss has unpredictable delay that makes it useless against moving targets.

Ragnarock41

Pauls wrote: »

MentalxHammer wrote: »

ChefZero wrote: »

MentalxHammer wrote: »

For all the people bashing stam necro I agree the skills do have issues for open world; however, a stam necro did just win the legends dueling tournament on EU.

Do you know something about his/her setup?

It was Gupsy. Using front bar maul, back bar sword and board. He was using the corpse siphon heal, spirit guardian, vigor and rally for defensive mechanisms, as well as puncture, blast bones, skeletal archer, dizzying swing and executioner to dmg.

No dots? Thought necros rely on dots because its theit class advantage. And no proc sets (monster too) you noticed? Interesting.

stamnecros excel at bursting people, believe it or not.

Raudgrani

deLioncourt wrote: »

It's never worth it to make a nord for any reason.

Stam Nord meta in PVP these days ffs.... ESPECIALLY Necro and Warden.

StrandedMonkey

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

stamnecros excel at bursting people, believe it or not.

for a class that has a passive for dots and crits youd think it would be the opposite

Asardes

StrandedMonkey wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

stamnecros excel at bursting people, believe it or not.

for a class that has a passive for dots and crits youd think it would be the opposite

Stacking DoTs contributes to burst. Put all the DoTs, hit them with Colossus, execute.