BG queue finder should be reverted until it's operational.

MentalxHammer

BG queues are broken, between the long queue times, infinite loading screens, and trouble designating even teams it is almost a miracle to successfully play a BG. I spend about 40% of my play time in BG's, this is really ruining this patch for myself and numerous other players.

Qbiken

Revert the BG queue finder changes until it is functional.

After Monday's patch I'm back to having insanely long que times (PC/EU). Last week was one of the best weeks of BG's I've had. Didn't have to wait more than maybe 3-4 minutes for a BG. But now it seems that zos might have messed with the mmr system again and I'm back to 20+ min as a minimum in waiting time (just so I can be paired against two full 4 man premades).

Jeremy

MentalxHammer wrote: »

BG queues are broken, between the long queue times, infinite loading screens, and trouble designating even teams it is almost a miracle to successfully play a BG. I spend about 40% of my play time in BG's, this is really ruining this patch for myself and numerous other players.

I would be satisfied if they would just disable to desert penalty until it's fixed. Because it's pretty annoying getting stuck in a battleground that never starts and then having to eat a penalty because you had to leave.

I think part of the issue is people just sit in the dead zones. I was in one today where a guy in there said he had been through multiple groups. I asked him how long he had been sitting there and he said he lost track cause he was watching YouTube videos. So they need to come up with a way to close down these zones so people don't just sit in them forever like a black hole sucking up players in the queue.

russelmmendoza

We're happy with how it's operating, keep it as is.

Its working fine now that the vitches festival is over.

Already figured out that whenever there is a event things go haywire for eso.

Working as intended.

akl77

Revert the BG queue finder changes until it is functional.

It’s broken

Araviel2

Revert the BG queue finder changes until it is functional.

I get que times like this -



And while I sit and wait I watch my friends getting into multiple games without being able to fill full teams.

redlink1979

Last time I played a BG the queue wasn't that long for me - I queued alone for a random BG.
Neither the finder seemed broken (last Sunday 11/11, PS4 NA server).

@MentalxHammer @russelmmendoza @akl77 @Araviel2 In which platform and server are you experiencing this?

Araviel2

Revert the BG queue finder changes until it is functional.

redlink1979 wrote: »

Last time I played a BG the queue wasn't that long for me - I queued alone for a random BG.
Neither the finder seemed broken (last Sunday 11/11, PS4 NA server).

@MentalxHammer @russelmmendoza @akl77 @Araviel2 In which platform and server are you experiencing this?

PC EU and I am usually in the top 5 of the leaderboard so guessing that I am pretty high in MMR.
prime-time it seems i can get 2 games/hour.
out of prime-time I get que times like the one i posted above unless I group with someone that can carry me into games and its still freaking long.

I know there are plenty of games going, I can see my friends playing them, but im not getting it.
Its like the game is telling me FU you are too high in MMR and you are not allowed to play anymore.

jcm2606

Revert the BG queue finder changes until it is functional.

Jeremy wrote: »

MentalxHammer wrote: »

BG queues are broken, between the long queue times, infinite loading screens, and trouble designating even teams it is almost a miracle to successfully play a BG. I spend about 40% of my play time in BG's, this is really ruining this patch for myself and numerous other players.

I would be satisfied if they would just disable to desert penalty until it's fixed. Because it's pretty annoying getting stuck in a battleground that never starts and then having to eat a penalty because you had to leave.

I think part of the issue is people just sit in the dead zones. I was in one today where a guy in there said he had been through multiple groups. I asked him how long he had been sitting there and he said he lost track cause he was watching YouTube videos. So they need to come up with a way to close down these zones so people don't just sit in them forever like a black hole sucking up players in the queue.

The dead simple workaround to the issue they're trying to fix, that I've been asking for during the last year or so (Murkmire, Wrathstone, Elsweyr, all three I brought it up), would be to allow players to leave during the "waiting for players" stage without incurring the penalty.

Maybe a half hour out of someone's time to chuck it in, do some artificial testing on their side to ensure it doesn't immediately break literally everything, and boom, problem solved while they find the actual cause. But nah, let's release a new activity finder which has proven to be more broken than the last, and let's leave that in while the BGs community goes insane. That'll solve the problem!

Jeremy

jcm2606 wrote: »

Jeremy wrote: »

MentalxHammer wrote: »

BG queues are broken, between the long queue times, infinite loading screens, and trouble designating even teams it is almost a miracle to successfully play a BG. I spend about 40% of my play time in BG's, this is really ruining this patch for myself and numerous other players.

I would be satisfied if they would just disable to desert penalty until it's fixed. Because it's pretty annoying getting stuck in a battleground that never starts and then having to eat a penalty because you had to leave.

I think part of the issue is people just sit in the dead zones. I was in one today where a guy in there said he had been through multiple groups. I asked him how long he had been sitting there and he said he lost track cause he was watching YouTube videos. So they need to come up with a way to close down these zones so people don't just sit in them forever like a black hole sucking up players in the queue.

The dead simple workaround to the issue they're trying to fix, that I've been asking for during the last year or so (Murkmire, Wrathstone, Elsweyr, all three I brought it up), would be to allow players to leave during the "waiting for players" stage without incurring the penalty.

Maybe a half hour out of someone's time to chuck it in, do some artificial testing on their side to ensure it doesn't immediately break literally everything, and boom, problem solved while they find the actual cause. But nah, let's release a new activity finder which has proven to be more broken than the last, and let's leave that in while the BGs community goes insane. That'll solve the problem!

I wouldn't think it would be that difficult to fix. One would think they could just program it to close down after a certain amount of time so players couldn't stay in the zone to keep it open.

CynicK

We're happy with how it's operating, keep it as is.

Maybe there are longer queue times because people does not queue that much and it is 4 minutes most maximum 10 during the day, of the time and of all the battlegrounds I have done since patch only one ended up in an endless loading screen, the last one was faster but also had a queue limit for players, I think that all those problems have lowered the people that plays BGs, without being live they have on way to test it and now works reasonably well.

Bashev

The queue is already reverted on PC EU as it used to work before the group finder changes.

It will be nice if ZOS explain what actually is happening.

akl77

Revert the BG queue finder changes until it is functional.

redlink1979 wrote: »

Last time I played a BG the queue wasn't that long for me - I queued alone for a random BG.
Neither the finder seemed broken (last Sunday 11/11, PS4 NA server).

@MentalxHammer @russelmmendoza @akl77 @Araviel2 In which platform and server are you experiencing this?

Still broken today.

Aurielle

ZOS needs to seriously overhaul their matchmaking system in general and take some pointers from real PVP games. Absolutely NO ONE should have to wait longer than a few seconds to get into any instance in a game that has a healthy player population.

This is how Battlefield does it, for instance. I can either choose to be randomly placed into a match via the matchmaking system, OR I can join an in-progress match immediately by browsing through a pre-set filter, or a custom filter. I can even sort the list by ping and everything, so that I can join games where my shots actually land and I’m not playing against guys who are rubber banding all over the place!



Imagine if you were able to see every active BG instance, and had the option of porting into a match with players who have similar pings. You could actually fill matches, rather than waiting forever in the queue while three other players are getting completely roflstomped in a match that stays 3v4v4 for the duration!

Qbiken

Revert the BG queue finder changes until it is functional.

Bashev wrote: »

The queue is already reverted on PC EU as it used to work before the group finder changes.

It will be nice if ZOS explain what actually is happening.

Sadly it was "fixed", for once I could que for anything that wasn't a deathmatch without being forced to wait 20min+.

The entire mmr system is a joke and needs an overhaul. If I want to play anything but deathmatch on a character with high mmr I might as well log off, because there's no tell how long I'll be forced to wait for a game.

Just abolish the mmr system until it can be reworked into something meaningful. As it stands right now you get punished the more battlegrounds you do (by adding ridiculous queue times).

Or seperate queues into mmr and no mmr, where mmr games are the only games contributing to leaderboard score (and make the rewards for placing high on leaderboard mean something by giving good rewards).

jlboozer

Revert the BG queue finder changes until it is functional.

I just wish I could stop going against 4-stacks of Grand Overlords when I'm queing solo. My mmr is high, but it shouldn't be that extremely high. It makes it where I can't even have fun, because every game I have to play perfectly since I refuse to go negative...feels bad man!

MentalxHammer

Bashev wrote: »

The queue is already reverted on PC EU as it used to work before the group finder changes.

It will be nice if ZOS explain what actually is happening.

Reeeaaally, zos this needs addressing. On xbox Cyro is unplayable, bgs are broken, the only pvp content is in Wayrest, that is a massive issue! I'm about to stop playing this dumpster fire of a game until they can actually reintroduce meaningful pvp content.

Warndihr

Revert the BG queue finder changes until it is functional.

The queue function is broken I think. It just says "klonk" when trying to queue up. No message or anything.

Canned_Apples

Araviel2 wrote: »

I get que times like this -



And while I sit and wait I watch my friends getting into multiple games without being able to fill full teams.

leave the queue- then rejoin.
Chances are you'll get pop but it'll be a broken BG that results in a 15 minute bad.

Instead of fixing things- they made things worse.