Gold Coast... are all quests like this? - Solved... Kind of...

myskyrim26

Ok, how am I supposed to complete A Lesson in Silence solo? Lvl 41. I need to kill the boss. A lot of mobs surround this boss. Is it some kind of sick joke by ZOS?
Oh sure - ask the guild mates to help, find some friends and all that crap. I will ask my guildmates, that's for sure - I don't have any other option. But what about my questing experience? I moved through the quest flawlessly. Never been caught by guards or noticed by citizens. All enemies died quietly and quickly. I RPed a perfect assasin, I enjoyed this quest for a couple of hours. And now what? Gu-uys, come he-elp me to do a que-est! Are all Gold Coast quests like this one? Do I need to cry out for help completing each? If so, to Oblivion with DB quest line...

UPD: I tried to kill the boss and mobs several times more and failed. Than I called for help in a zone chat. Luckily, a player came and the character was dressed in Shrouded Armor -that helped me to save the remaints of my RP.

The things I'm frustrated with... it is not the combat. It the way the quest ended. The quest design. It should not be like that.

Casul

Those are dailies, they exist in every dlc zone and require a boss kill.

myskyrim26

BuildMan wrote: »

Those are dailies, they exist in every zone and require a boss kill.

Not, not Mino or Arena. This is a Dark Brotherhood questline. I end up in a cave with a boss + too much mobs. I end up figting all of them at once. I can take some down, but not all. Nowhere to crouch to take them one by one, or to take boss down...

Juponen

As far as I recall...

When I did it I first made the mistake of going for a assassin style kill ie. sneaking to main target for a backstab. This aggroed every enemy simultaneously....

When I did it like a brash hero - an open frontal assault - the enemies came at me in small waves, easily defeated piecemeal.

So, the quest writer wants glass cannon assassins to behave in combat like tanky drunk nords

Tebari

Don't rush into them, let them come to you. They come at you in groups of three if I remember correctly, with the boss in the boss in the last wave. Make sure you have a self-heal on your bar. Stay mobile and use a ranged attack against the boss.

daemonios

There are tons of options to handle that fight. Shield up. Heal up. Root/stun the trash so you don't have to fight them all at once. Are you using food and pots? Watch your resources and recharge them with heavy attacks so you're not out when you need it. Know that Doshia, a boss from the very first fighters guild quest, used to be far worse than anything you can find in overland content these days. And you couldn't team up for her as she was instanced to the player, and the player alone.

myskyrim26

Juponen wrote: »

As far as I recall...

When I did it I first made the mistake of going for a assassin style kill ie. sneaking to main target for a backstab. This aggroed every enemy simultaneously....

When I did it like a brash hero - an open frontal assault - the enemies came at me in small waves, easily defeated piecemeal.

So, the quest writer wants glass cannon assassins to behave in combat like tanky drunk nords

I tried that - they come in protions, but too fast... I can't handle all. I tried several times and the boss kills me. She has little health left, yet kills me... My RP is ruined to ash. Suppose I need some Nords and mead to handle this quest

Major_Lag

myskyrim26 wrote: »

Ok, how am I supposed to complete A Lesson in Silence solo? Lvl 41. I need to kill the boss. A lot of mobs surround this boss. Is it some kind of sick joke by ZOS?

It's perfectly doable, I've completed it on characters of every basegame class even with heavily suboptimal builds.

What class is your character?
Every class has in their toolkit the required abilities to deal with large crowds of "trash mobs" as they are called, you just need to use the right combination of abilities.

myskyrim26

Major_Lag wrote: »

myskyrim26 wrote: »

Ok, how am I supposed to complete A Lesson in Silence solo? Lvl 41. I need to kill the boss. A lot of mobs surround this boss. Is it some kind of sick joke by ZOS?

It's perfectly doable, I've completed it on characters of every basegame class even with heavily suboptimal builds.

What class is your character?
Every class has in their toolkit the required abilities to deal with large crowds of "trash mobs" as they are called, you just need to use the right combination of abilities.

StamNB, just recently I got a lot of helpful advices on skills to use for kill and heal... I feel just fine doing quests and even publick dungeons now. But this! Another try, another fail...

Toanis

Stay away and let her send the other mobs in pairs at you, in the end you face only the boss and two others.
AOE helps, as do dots. AOE dots FTW.

Also check if your gear is at your level. At 40-50 you're slowly losing your lowbie buff, when your gear is outdated, and you're losing stats from there as well, combat in a DLC zone may be too hard.

Major_Lag

myskyrim26 wrote: »

StamNB, just recently I got a lot of helpful advices on skills to use for kill and heal... I feel just fine doing quests and even publick dungeons now. But this! Another try, another fail...

Here's a trick that worked quite well for me when levelling my crafter/mule alt (stamDK), this should work on characters on any class:
Drop a Sanguine Altar before starting the fight, then apply Soul Splitting Trap so that every enemy has the effect active on them.
For even better results, drop Caltrops or another ground AoE DoT so that the enemies are also standing in that.
The resulting healing is insane - you pretty much can't die, even if you have 20+ enemies on you.

rumple9

Gold coast actually has the best questline in the game

Major_Lag

rumple9 wrote: »

Gold coast actually has the best questline in the game

Oh yes, I really liked the conclusion of it.
Some of the (unique) locations you visit in the process are also really cool, and can't be accessed in any other way.

Unfortunately, in that one quest the OP is referring to, there's a big fight that simply cannot be avoided; even on a magNB it's not possible to assassinate the "boss" because there's no woeblade prompt

Hallothiel

@daemonios

Just out of curiosity, when was Doshia ‘nerfed’?

Raisin

I don't know how many ranged mobs there are here, but try either stacking on at least one of them, or kiting the group until they are stacked. Use dawnbreaker.
Alternatively if the damage is too much, use Bolstering Darkness on a stacked group(which should fit your RP feel at least a little better also). Then keep using your AOE spammable (Whirlwind morph I'm guessing). Kite the group if needed (Twisted or Refreshing path will give you movement speed and proc Shadow skilltree resistance passive). You can use Lotus Fan on a single enemy and the ones in range will all game minor vulnerability (so they take more damage). Dark Cloak would help you with incoming damage but I'm sure you have the other morph and that's fine.
Try to use your positioning to your advantage. Don't let yourself get surrounded. Stand to the side of a pillar or the stone stair wall near the boss so enemies can only come to you from that direction. A great assassin can win a fight even without stealth, and has to know how to make use of all resources available to them. Find the smartest, most efficient way to kill, even if you'd rather just sneak and Blade of Woe.

ArchMikem

Hallothiel wrote: »

@daemonios

Just out of curiosity, when was Doshia ‘nerfed’?

Years ago, look up videos of Doshia during the PC Beta. She went from a menace to a pushover. From what i could gleam though it was mostly the healing orbs. She just kept healing too much.

Hallothiel

@ArchMikem
Ta but was hoping for the date as must have fought her on PS4 in about Oct/Nov 2015 (oh my good god have i really been playing that long?!) and iirc she was horrid then.

Piece of cake now 😉

myskyrim26

rumple9 wrote: »

Gold coast actually has the best questline in the game

I really enjoyed it up to that boss... I wish other Gold Coast quests will not require calling for help and thus ruining the atmosphere

Raisin

myskyrim26 wrote: »

rumple9 wrote: »

Gold coast actually has the best questline in the game

I really enjoyed it up to that boss... I wish other Gold Coast quests will not require calling for help and thus ruining the atmosphere

I absolutely don't mean this as an insult... But you've got to understand that needing to call for help with that boss absolutely isn't the norm. It's honestly hard for many of us to even imagine how you could struggle with it. Your experience in this case is not what ZOS should base difficulty level on. And it's hard for anyone to tell you about if other quests will also give you trouble because it seems like anything could be difficult for you, even if it's hard for others to imagine.

daemonios

Hallothiel wrote: »

@daemonios

Just out of curiosity, when was Doshia ‘nerfed’?

Very very early on. Like, first few months after launch.

Major_Lag

Raisin wrote: »

I absolutely don't mean this as an insult... But you've got to understand that needing to call for help with that boss absolutely isn't the norm. It's honestly hard for many of us to even imagine how you could struggle with it.

This is correct - the boss fight in question is pretty tame; yes it's somewhat more difficult than the average "overland" (quest) content, but nothing out of the ordinary.

If you want to see some truly challenging quests, do the Imperial City questline... especially the Arena and Temple district quests, those are quite brutal.

I suspect that the OP's problem is that they aren't using any healing/mitigation/buff abilities, or at least not the appropriate ones.
Either that, or running out of resources?

myskyrim26

Major_Lag wrote: »

Raisin wrote: »

I absolutely don't mean this as an insult... But you've got to understand that needing to call for help with that boss absolutely isn't the norm. It's honestly hard for many of us to even imagine how you could struggle with it.

This is correct - the boss fight in question is pretty tame; yes it's somewhat more difficult than the average "overland" (quest) content, but nothing out of the ordinary.

If you want to see some truly challenging quests, do the Imperial City questline... especially the Arena and Temple district quests, those are quite brutal.

I suspect that the OP's problem is that they aren't using any healing/mitigation/buff abilities, or at least not the appropriate ones.
Either that, or running out of resources?

Yep, I'm running out of resources and the boss gets me no matter how hard I try. Anyway, the quest is already done with a help from other player.

As for Imperial City questline - I tried and failed with a StamDk, than PetSorc. I did Temple district up to the final boss, but never managed to win. I tried really hard on maxed lvl chars with CPs, and food, and etc...

method__01

use Mirage and Vigor in your front bar or where you have your ranged weapon (bow)