Abilities and item sets that grant Physical and Spell Resistances now grant an equal amount of both as a singular stat – Armor – rather than 2 separate stats.
It got nerfed... No one knows why but ZOS is ZOS.
OG_Kaveman wrote: »It got nerfed... No one knows why but ZOS is ZOS.
it is very clear why, it was overbuget for the armor it provided. simple. before you had 2975 spell or physical resists. now you get 1487 of both on a set bonus, to mirror the spell/physical penetration set bonus. since we know that ZoS wants 5 piece set to be 2.31x the set bonus, that leaves the 3460 to be the correct one to have on brass. brass is now the exact armor/resists mirror of hundings/julianos. 129 weapon/spell multiplied by 2.31 is ~299. it is also the mirror for spriggan/spriggans.
the reason is clear. the 5 piece set bonus was over budget. a 5 piece is, by ZoSs own statements, suppose to be 2.31x a single set bonus. and since a single set bonus of armor is now 1487 armor, both spell and physical, the 5170 resists from brass needed to be lower to 3460 to have the set adhere to ZoSs stated goal. whether you agree with this goal, is another ball of wax.
OG_Kaveman wrote: »It got nerfed... No one knows why but ZOS is ZOS.
it is very clear why, it was overbuget for the armor it provided. simple. before you had 2975 spell or physical resists. now you get 1487 of both on a set bonus, to mirror the spell/physical penetration set bonus. since we know that ZoS wants 5 piece set to be 2.31x the set bonus, that leaves the 3460 to be the correct one to have on brass. brass is now the exact armor/resists mirror of hundings/julianos. 129 weapon/spell multiplied by 2.31 is ~299. it is also the mirror for spriggan/spriggans.
the reason is clear. the 5 piece set bonus was over budget. a 5 piece is, by ZoSs own statements, suppose to be 2.31x a single set bonus. and since a single set bonus of armor is now 1487 armor, both spell and physical, the 5170 resists from brass needed to be lower to 3460 to have the set adhere to ZoSs stated goal. whether you agree with this goal, is another ball of wax.
I shouldn't need an advanced math degree to figure out my armor
OG_Kaveman wrote: »It got nerfed... No one knows why but ZOS is ZOS.
it is very clear why, it was overbuget for the armor it provided. simple. before you had 2975 spell or physical resists. now you get 1487 of both on a set bonus, to mirror the spell/physical penetration set bonus. since we know that ZoS wants 5 piece set to be 2.31x the set bonus, that leaves the 3460 to be the correct one to have on brass. brass is now the exact armor/resists mirror of hundings/julianos. 129 weapon/spell multiplied by 2.31 is ~299. it is also the mirror for spriggan/spriggans.
the reason is clear. the 5 piece set bonus was over budget. a 5 piece is, by ZoSs own statements, suppose to be 2.31x a single set bonus. and since a single set bonus of armor is now 1487 armor, both spell and physical, the 5170 resists from brass needed to be lower to 3460 to have the set adhere to ZoSs stated goal. whether you agree with this goal, is another ball of wax.
I shouldn't need an advanced math degree to figure out my armor
OG_Kaveman wrote: »It got nerfed... No one knows why but ZOS is ZOS.
it is very clear why, it was overbuget for the armor it provided. simple. before you had 2975 spell or physical resists. now you get 1487 of both on a set bonus, to mirror the spell/physical penetration set bonus. since we know that ZoS wants 5 piece set to be 2.31x the set bonus, that leaves the 3460 to be the correct one to have on brass. brass is now the exact armor/resists mirror of hundings/julianos. 129 weapon/spell multiplied by 2.31 is ~299. it is also the mirror for spriggan/spriggans.
the reason is clear. the 5 piece set bonus was over budget. a 5 piece is, by ZoSs own statements, suppose to be 2.31x a single set bonus. and since a single set bonus of armor is now 1487 armor, both spell and physical, the 5170 resists from brass needed to be lower to 3460 to have the set adhere to ZoSs stated goal. whether you agree with this goal, is another ball of wax.
.TL;DR: Their balancing efforts often trend towards heavy-handed and inconsistent.
Then we have 2 piece weapon sets like Blackrose Resto and DW that are much more impactful than Brass, a 5pc set.
OG_Kaveman wrote: ».TL;DR: Their balancing efforts often trend towards heavy-handed and inconsistent.
I disagree with this. They are being pretty clear about the way zos wants their game.Then we have 2 piece weapon sets like Blackrose Resto and DW that are much more impactful than Brass, a 5pc set.
The resto and dw are behind content though, you have to earn them, even if you think nbrp is trival, brass is a crafted, anyone can craft it, so the weapon sets ought to be more impactful.
Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »OG_Kaveman wrote: ».TL;DR: Their balancing efforts often trend towards heavy-handed and inconsistent.
I disagree with this. They are being pretty clear about the way zos wants their game.Then we have 2 piece weapon sets like Blackrose Resto and DW that are much more impactful than Brass, a 5pc set.
The resto and dw are behind content though, you have to earn them, even if you think nbrp is trival, brass is a crafted, anyone can craft it, so the weapon sets ought to be more impactful.
I would disagree, putting “more powerful” sets in the game isn’t the design of ESO, weapon sets should be another option and never a straight upgrade.
OG_Kaveman wrote: »Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »OG_Kaveman wrote: ».TL;DR: Their balancing efforts often trend towards heavy-handed and inconsistent.
I disagree with this. They are being pretty clear about the way zos wants their game.Then we have 2 piece weapon sets like Blackrose Resto and DW that are much more impactful than Brass, a 5pc set.
The resto and dw are behind content though, you have to earn them, even if you think nbrp is trival, brass is a crafted, anyone can craft it, so the weapon sets ought to be more impactful.
I would disagree, putting “more powerful” sets in the game isn’t the design of ESO, weapon sets should be another option and never a straight upgrade.
Like, yes it is, that is why every DPS has a vMA staff/bow or master bow. You give up a lot to run a weapon, so it best be a straight upgrade.
I just noticed this is in the PvP section, look, pvp especially, you need good reasons that I just not run 2 five piece sets, so weapon sets need to do better then a second 5 piece.
Also, I never said "more powerful", the phrase was "more impactful".
Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »OG_Kaveman wrote: »Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »OG_Kaveman wrote: ».TL;DR: Their balancing efforts often trend towards heavy-handed and inconsistent.
I disagree with this. They are being pretty clear about the way zos wants their game.Then we have 2 piece weapon sets like Blackrose Resto and DW that are much more impactful than Brass, a 5pc set.
The resto and dw are behind content though, you have to earn them, even if you think nbrp is trival, brass is a crafted, anyone can craft it, so the weapon sets ought to be more impactful.
I would disagree, putting “more powerful” sets in the game isn’t the design of ESO, weapon sets should be another option and never a straight upgrade.
Like, yes it is, that is why every DPS has a vMA staff/bow or master bow. You give up a lot to run a weapon, so it best be a straight upgrade.
I just noticed this is in the PvP section, look, pvp especially, you need good reasons that I just not run 2 five piece sets, so weapon sets need to do better then a second 5 piece.
Also, I never said "more powerful", the phrase was "more impactful".
The weapons need to be worse than a second 5 piece since you can do backbar/frontbar setups to run a weapon and get the full value of a 5 piece. Making the weapons overly strong gives a disadvantage to builds that can’t make good use of one of the arena weapons.
Or is the current PvE meta to run vMA without a frontbar 5set?
OG_Kaveman wrote: »Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »OG_Kaveman wrote: »Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »OG_Kaveman wrote: ».TL;DR: Their balancing efforts often trend towards heavy-handed and inconsistent.
I disagree with this. They are being pretty clear about the way zos wants their game.Then we have 2 piece weapon sets like Blackrose Resto and DW that are much more impactful than Brass, a 5pc set.
The resto and dw are behind content though, you have to earn them, even if you think nbrp is trival, brass is a crafted, anyone can craft it, so the weapon sets ought to be more impactful.
I would disagree, putting “more powerful” sets in the game isn’t the design of ESO, weapon sets should be another option and never a straight upgrade.
Like, yes it is, that is why every DPS has a vMA staff/bow or master bow. You give up a lot to run a weapon, so it best be a straight upgrade.
I just noticed this is in the PvP section, look, pvp especially, you need good reasons that I just not run 2 five piece sets, so weapon sets need to do better then a second 5 piece.
Also, I never said "more powerful", the phrase was "more impactful".
The weapons need to be worse than a second 5 piece since you can do backbar/frontbar setups to run a weapon and get the full value of a 5 piece. Making the weapons overly strong gives a disadvantage to builds that can’t make good use of one of the arena weapons.
Or is the current PvE meta to run vMA without a frontbar 5set?
They need to be better then a five piece at least 50% of the time, so it makes sense to back bar them. Come on man, that is what we are talking about, not this herr der front bar vMA weapons durr stuff.
OG_Kaveman wrote: »Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »OG_Kaveman wrote: »Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »OG_Kaveman wrote: ».TL;DR: Their balancing efforts often trend towards heavy-handed and inconsistent.
I disagree with this. They are being pretty clear about the way zos wants their game.Then we have 2 piece weapon sets like Blackrose Resto and DW that are much more impactful than Brass, a 5pc set.
The resto and dw are behind content though, you have to earn them, even if you think nbrp is trival, brass is a crafted, anyone can craft it, so the weapon sets ought to be more impactful.
I would disagree, putting “more powerful” sets in the game isn’t the design of ESO, weapon sets should be another option and never a straight upgrade.
Like, yes it is, that is why every DPS has a vMA staff/bow or master bow. You give up a lot to run a weapon, so it best be a straight upgrade.
I just noticed this is in the PvP section, look, pvp especially, you need good reasons that I just not run 2 five piece sets, so weapon sets need to do better then a second 5 piece.
Also, I never said "more powerful", the phrase was "more impactful".
The weapons need to be worse than a second 5 piece since you can do backbar/frontbar setups to run a weapon and get the full value of a 5 piece. Making the weapons overly strong gives a disadvantage to builds that can’t make good use of one of the arena weapons.
Or is the current PvE meta to run vMA without a frontbar 5set?
They need to be better then a five piece at least 50% of the time, so it makes sense to back bar them. Come on man, that is what we are talking about, not this herr der front bar vMA weapons durr stuff.
OG_Kaveman wrote: »It got nerfed... No one knows why but ZOS is ZOS.
it is very clear why, it was overbuget for the armor it provided. simple. before you had 2975 spell or physical resists. now you get 1487 of both on a set bonus, to mirror the spell/physical penetration set bonus. since we know that ZoS wants 5 piece set to be 2.31x the set bonus, that leaves the 3460 to be the correct one to have on brass. brass is now the exact armor/resists mirror of hundings/julianos. 129 weapon/spell multiplied by 2.31 is ~299. it is also the mirror for spriggan/spriggans.
the reason is clear. the 5 piece set bonus was over budget. a 5 piece is, by ZoSs own statements, suppose to be 2.31x a single set bonus. and since a single set bonus of armor is now 1487 armor, both spell and physical, the 5170 resists from brass needed to be lower to 3460 to have the set adhere to ZoSs stated goal. whether you agree with this goal, is another ball of wax.
universal_wrath wrote: »Fyi, armor master was giving almost an equal amount of resistance as brass fortified, one was nerf and other stayed the same.
It got nerfed... No one knows why but ZOS is ZOS.
:crickets: looking at pariah, NMA, BRP DW and resto :scratchingmyhead: I don't think we should balance sets like this, because some things are scaling and calculating differently.
OG_Kaveman wrote: »Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »OG_Kaveman wrote: ».TL;DR: Their balancing efforts often trend towards heavy-handed and inconsistent.
I disagree with this. They are being pretty clear about the way zos wants their game.Then we have 2 piece weapon sets like Blackrose Resto and DW that are much more impactful than Brass, a 5pc set.
The resto and dw are behind content though, you have to earn them, even if you think nbrp is trival, brass is a crafted, anyone can craft it, so the weapon sets ought to be more impactful.
I would disagree, putting “more powerful” sets in the game isn’t the design of ESO, weapon sets should be another option and never a straight upgrade.
Like, yes it is, that is why every DPS has a vMA staff/bow or master bow. You give up a lot to run a weapon, so it best be a straight upgrade.
I just noticed this is in the PvP section, look, pvp especially, you need good reasons that I just not run 2 five piece sets, so weapon sets need to do better then a second 5 piece.
Also, I never said "more powerful", the phrase was "more impactful".
OG_Kaveman wrote: »Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »OG_Kaveman wrote: »Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »OG_Kaveman wrote: ».TL;DR: Their balancing efforts often trend towards heavy-handed and inconsistent.
I disagree with this. They are being pretty clear about the way zos wants their game.Then we have 2 piece weapon sets like Blackrose Resto and DW that are much more impactful than Brass, a 5pc set.
The resto and dw are behind content though, you have to earn them, even if you think nbrp is trival, brass is a crafted, anyone can craft it, so the weapon sets ought to be more impactful.
I would disagree, putting “more powerful” sets in the game isn’t the design of ESO, weapon sets should be another option and never a straight upgrade.
Like, yes it is, that is why every DPS has a vMA staff/bow or master bow. You give up a lot to run a weapon, so it best be a straight upgrade.
I just noticed this is in the PvP section, look, pvp especially, you need good reasons that I just not run 2 five piece sets, so weapon sets need to do better then a second 5 piece.
Also, I never said "more powerful", the phrase was "more impactful".
The weapons need to be worse than a second 5 piece since you can do backbar/frontbar setups to run a weapon and get the full value of a 5 piece. Making the weapons overly strong gives a disadvantage to builds that can’t make good use of one of the arena weapons.
Or is the current PvE meta to run vMA without a frontbar 5set?
They need to be better then a five piece at least 50% of the time, so it makes sense to back bar them. Come on man, that is what we are talking about, not this herr der front bar vMA weapons durr stuff.
OG_Kaveman wrote: »Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »OG_Kaveman wrote: ».TL;DR: Their balancing efforts often trend towards heavy-handed and inconsistent.
I disagree with this. They are being pretty clear about the way zos wants their game.Then we have 2 piece weapon sets like Blackrose Resto and DW that are much more impactful than Brass, a 5pc set.
The resto and dw are behind content though, you have to earn them, even if you think nbrp is trival, brass is a crafted, anyone can craft it, so the weapon sets ought to be more impactful.
I would disagree, putting “more powerful” sets in the game isn’t the design of ESO, weapon sets should be another option and never a straight upgrade.
Like, yes it is, that is why every DPS has a vMA staff/bow or master bow. You give up a lot to run a weapon, so it best be a straight upgrade.
I just noticed this is in the PvP section, look, pvp especially, you need good reasons that I just not run 2 five piece sets, so weapon sets need to do better then a second 5 piece.
Also, I never said "more powerful", the phrase was "more impactful".OG_Kaveman wrote: »Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »OG_Kaveman wrote: »Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »OG_Kaveman wrote: ».TL;DR: Their balancing efforts often trend towards heavy-handed and inconsistent.
I disagree with this. They are being pretty clear about the way zos wants their game.Then we have 2 piece weapon sets like Blackrose Resto and DW that are much more impactful than Brass, a 5pc set.
The resto and dw are behind content though, you have to earn them, even if you think nbrp is trival, brass is a crafted, anyone can craft it, so the weapon sets ought to be more impactful.
I would disagree, putting “more powerful” sets in the game isn’t the design of ESO, weapon sets should be another option and never a straight upgrade.
Like, yes it is, that is why every DPS has a vMA staff/bow or master bow. You give up a lot to run a weapon, so it best be a straight upgrade.
I just noticed this is in the PvP section, look, pvp especially, you need good reasons that I just not run 2 five piece sets, so weapon sets need to do better then a second 5 piece.
Also, I never said "more powerful", the phrase was "more impactful".
The weapons need to be worse than a second 5 piece since you can do backbar/frontbar setups to run a weapon and get the full value of a 5 piece. Making the weapons overly strong gives a disadvantage to builds that can’t make good use of one of the arena weapons.
Or is the current PvE meta to run vMA without a frontbar 5set?
They need to be better then a five piece at least 50% of the time, so it makes sense to back bar them. Come on man, that is what we are talking about, not this herr der front bar vMA weapons durr stuff.
100% wrong.
now it is very hard to justify sets like armor master, Pariah , Bloodspawn
.Nords resistance passives are also a rule breaker now compared
.1 moster set bonus resistance passive(pirate skeleton) are almost the same as 5 set bonus resistance(brass).
. So ya, the standards for resistances are all over the place.