Purchasable or increased drop rate/sources - transmute crystals

Dogzey

Hear me out before you hate lol. With all the HUGE changes every 3 months it is becoming a huge chore to keep up with the constant meta shift whether it is different monster sets, weapons, jewellery etc. I personally can farm a decent amount of transmutes from pvp but its getting to the stage where I have none all the time now because of how frequent I need to change stuff. If ZOS are gonna stick to the big changes for a year or so to fix things up it would be nice to be able to purchase gems whether for crowns, event tickets or gold. If not having them purchasable increase the amount you can obtain from geodes.

Do you agree?

EDIT: more focus on increased drop rate, sources or lower the cost to transmute. I agree that purchasing is a bad slope just venting with my struggle lol.

pdblake

OTHER

Think it would be nice if they dropped from other sources too, like writs and rare drops from nodes etc, and (they may be already, I don't know) transferable so they can be sold in guild traders etc.

redlink1979

NO

We can farm a decent amount of transmutes from various sources already:

Guaranteed drops:
Alliance War Campaign End Rewards
Arena, Trial, and Battlegrounds Leaderboards
Random Daily Activity Finder (1st activity completed per day)
Rewards for the Worthy (1st per day)
Trial Weekly Quests
Undaunted Pledges
Veteran Dragonstar Arena
Veteran Maelstrom Arena

Potential drops:
Dungeon Master Boss
Random Daily Activity Finder (after 1st activity)
Rewards for the Worthy (after 1st reward)

BNOC

OTHER

I'd rather they were either easier obtained in game or the cost per item was reduced to 25 (example) to be honest as it's a chore to get them.

Though, I also find that despite shifting metas, you don't really ever need to change anything unless it's been totally *** which unless you were running 100% stink before, never really affects you.

From a PvP perspective, I've ran the same setup since Murkmire and still compete with top players on my platform so have gems coming out of my ass.

But yeah, wouldn't hurt if they were easier obtained, costs were reduced or you could over-collect them, I must have about 40 inventory slots wasted on unopened crystal sacks that I can't use because I'm at limit.

Dogzey

redlink1979 wrote: »

We can farm a decent amount of transmutes from various sources already:

Guaranteed drops:
Alliance War Campaign End Rewards
Arena, Trial, and Battlegrounds Leaderboards
Random Daily Activity Finder (1st activity completed per day)
Rewards for the Worthy (1st per day)
Trial Weekly Quests
Undaunted Pledges
Veteran Dragonstar Arena
Veteran Maelstrom Arena

Potential drops:
Dungeon Master Boss
Random Daily Activity Finder (after 1st activity)
Rewards for the Worthy (after 1st reward)

When you say farm, getting 2 for a dungeon run when you need 50 is like farming during the famine lol. 5 for a vma complete that is 5 hours of constant 30 minute runs. I get mmos have a certain aspect of grinding but mmos shouldn't be trying to figure out identity 5 years in changing stuff more than I change my underwear.

Jephry

YES

It would be nice if I didn't ever have to go into Cyrodiil or Battlegrounds again. Hate hate hate PVP, and it takes far too long to get them through other sources...

VaranisArano

Not likely to happen.

Have you considered...
A. That getting you to spend time grinding for new gear/transmutes is part of why ZOS changes the meta periodically?
B. Not chasing the meta?

Its working as intended.
ZOS never intended for transmute crystals to be the primary way of obtaining armor/weapons in the trait you desire.

richo262

You should be able to make Transmute Glyphs in the enchanter station.

75 Transmutes + 25 Rekuta = 1 Transmute Glyph (Transmutes any item) Can be stacked, and sold.

Ratzkifal

NO

Slippery slope. Next thing you know they add vMA weapons as a "time saver", since at that hypothetical point you can already buy the right trait anyway.

BNOC

OTHER

richo262 wrote: »

You should be able to make Transmute Glyphs in the enchanter station.

75 Transmutes + 25 Rekuta = 1 Transmute Glyph (Transmutes any item) Can be stacked, and sold.

It's only 50 at the minute to change an item, without the 50% overload, and the 25 rekutas - Seems like an odd and pricey glyph.

Dogzey

VaranisArano wrote: »

Not likely to happen.

Have you considered...
A. That getting you to spend time grinding for new gear/transmutes is part of why ZOS changes the meta periodically?
B. Not chasing the meta?

Its working as intended.
ZOS never intended for transmute crystals to be the primary way of obtaining armor/weapons in the trait you desire.

A. ammm no it is not, they got a new combat dev team this year who are gone doing an "audit" changing putting everything on its head. If your trying to tell me scalebreaker DOT meta was intentional your delusional

B. Sorry I like to run PVE end game. Before you say "well that is your own decision" go back to last year the changes weren't as ridiculous or big every 3 months so I thought the crystals were ideal then

So any QoL change isn't intended? right dude

srfrogg23

NO

No, because:

1. There's already enough "convenience" items in the crown store. Too many, imo.
2. See number 1.
3. Stop chasing the META.

ELawlis

OTHER

Higher drop rates and more sources (Guaranteed from Master writs, possible drop from dolmen/delve/public dungeon/world bosses, but never nodes or other easy to farm locations). Should not be purchasable unless a separate currency similar to AP is created for trials and dungeons (Like the undaunted keys or writ vouchers).

The currency could be used to buy unidentified dungeon/trials armor like the AP/TV vendors, with separate currency for Non-DLC and DLC content, be purchasable based on achievements for that character (like achievement vendors) and to purchase transmute geodes and dungeon style materials, possibly furnishings and recipes.

I also think this gear should be character bound, and limited to armor pieces to keep people in dungeons/trials for the weapons and jewelry, but that's just me.

Dogzey

Ratzkifal wrote: »

Slippery slope. Next thing you know they add vMA weapons as a "time saver", since at that hypothetical point you can already buy the right trait anyway.

I get what you mean. I think people are focusing too much on purchasable (my own fault for the title), I also suggested increasing drop amounts. The two aren't comparable, I don't need to stack 100's of vma weapons every patch to keep up with ZOS unknown road map.

richo262

BNOC wrote: »

richo262 wrote: »

You should be able to make Transmute Glyphs in the enchanter station.

75 Transmutes + 25 Rekuta = 1 Transmute Glyph (Transmutes any item) Can be stacked, and sold.

It's only 50 at the minute to change an item, without the 50% overload, and the 25 rekutas - Seems like an odd and pricey glyph.

Its kinda the point.

It is meant to make you seriously consider holding Geodes, Transmuting your self, or if you are seriously overburdened with Transmutes, to sell them off.

It is not necessarily pricey for the person making the Transmute Glyph, it is pricey for the end consumer though .

More than 50 gems - Because if it wasn't more, it would just be a no-brainer to do it.
25 Rekuta - Because Rekuta serves no real purpose in the game save for the occasional furniture crafting.

Ta - Daily writs
Jejota - Nothing*
Denata - Furniture / levelling enchant on alts
Rekuta - Nothing*
Kuta - BIS

*Small amount of furniture.

redlink1979

NO

Dogzey wrote: »

When you say farm, getting 2 for a dungeon run when you need 50 is like farming during the famine lol. 5 for a vma complete that is 5 hours of constant 30 minute runs. I get mmos have a certain aspect of grinding but mmos shouldn't be trying to figure out identity 5 years in changing stuff more than I change my underwear.

I will break it down: PvE if you're not in a hurry, PvP if you are in a hurry - BG is the fastest way to accumulate them. But if you aren't in a hurry, check when the 30 day campaigns end. Get 4 characters into Cyrodiil and get them up to tier 1 rewards (25000 AP). When the campaign ends you have your 200 Transmute Stones.

markulrich1966

I'm not a good PVPlayer, my 10 characters are PVE setups.
But reaching Tier 1 in a new campaign with each char usually takes less than 1 hour.

Just wait until your own alliance is not completely outnumbered, then enter the campaign, and follow a zerg. After conquering 2 keeps and some of the resources (farms/mills) you have 28k action points and tier 1, so you will get the 50 transmutation crystal reward.

So I personally don't see the need to purchase them.
I however understand the wish if people can't use all characters because of faction lock, I added 3 afterwards to be able to get enough crystals for my main characters.

Dogzey

markulrich1966 wrote: »

I'm not a good PVPlayer, my 10 characters are PVE setups.
But reaching Tier 1 in a new campaign with each char usually takes less than 1 hour.

Just wait until your own alliance is not completely outnumbered, then enter the campaign, and follow a zerg. After conquering 2 keeps and some of the resources (farms/mills) you have 28k action points and tier 1, so you will get the 50 transmutation crystal reward.

So I personally don't see the need to purchase them.
I however understand the wish if people can't use all characters because of faction lock, I added 3 afterwards to be able to get enough crystals for my main characters.

This requires a fairly active pvp server to join a zerg + like you said you having all alts in the same alliance. (now it doesn't matter because they brought in unlocked again, but its dead on ps4 eu so far)

preevious

NO

-_-'

Dogzey

redlink1979 wrote: »

Dogzey wrote: »

When you say farm, getting 2 for a dungeon run when you need 50 is like farming during the famine lol. 5 for a vma complete that is 5 hours of constant 30 minute runs. I get mmos have a certain aspect of grinding but mmos shouldn't be trying to figure out identity 5 years in changing stuff more than I change my underwear.

I will break it down: PvE if you're not in a hurry, PvP if you are in a hurry - BG is the fastest way to accumulate them. But if you aren't in a hurry, check when the 30 day campaigns end. Get 4 characters into Cyrodiil and get them up to tier 1 rewards (25000 AP). When the campaign ends you have your 200 Transmute Stones.

BGS is slow. Rewards of the worthy and the daily rewards is once a day dude and 4 most of the time. 25 once in a blue moon. 200 is 4 transmutes stam dw takes up 2 instantly and idk how many times its shifted between nirn + either precise/sharpened for different classes recently. Campaigns are alliance locked ... they brought 1 unlocked now this week to console but it's dead.

VaranisArano

Dogzey wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Not likely to happen.

Have you considered...
A. That getting you to spend time grinding for new gear/transmutes is part of why ZOS changes the meta periodically?
B. Not chasing the meta?

Its working as intended.
ZOS never intended for transmute crystals to be the primary way of obtaining armor/weapons in the trait you desire.

A. ammm no it is not, they got a new combat dev team this year who are gone doing an "audit" changing putting everything on its head. If your trying to tell me scalebreaker DOT meta was intentional your delusional

B. Sorry I like to run PVE end game. Before you say "well that is your own decision" go back to last year the changes weren't as ridiculous or big every 3 months so I thought the crystals were ideal then

So any QoL change isn't intended? right dude

This "audit" is more of the same type of "horizontal progression" we've seen ever since One Tamriel. In big or small ways, the meta is always changing to keep the game from stagnanting and players getting bored. Of course, eventually players get tired of constant changes, but it takes longer to hit that point.

Thus, there will always be a demand for more transmute crystals from players who chase the meta.

The real question is why would ZOS make it easier to get transmute crystals when they can get players to grind for them instead? Again, ZOS doesn't want transmutation to be the primary way you get armor/weapons in your desired trait - they've outright said so. So "it would be better QOL for me" isn't a very convincing reason for why they should change their mind. Crown sales might have a slightly better case, since ZOS can make money off it, but making it available for gold goes against the way ZOS gates stones behind specific content to,drive players to grind if they want those transmute stones.

Come up with an actual reason your suggestion benefits ZOS given their current design of the game, and maybe it'll happen.


Though I have to admit, it would be a little amusing to read the posts complaining "ZOS changed the gear meta so they can sell more transmute stones!!!!" You know it would happen.

markulrich1966

Dogzey wrote: »

This requires a fairly active pvp server to join a zerg + like you said you having all alts in the same alliance. (now it doesn't matter because they brought in unlocked again, but its dead on ps4 eu so far)

yes had this problem, just 4 of my 7 toons could enter the main campaign, the other 3 were different alliances. This is why i added 3 more to the first 4.
These 3 new are mainly just farmers, for transmutation crystals and jewelry crafting. They are not optimized and serve no other purpose, so they can give their rewards to my optimized favourite toons.

No perfect solution, but meanwhile suitable enough to have my fav toons fully transmuted. I don't oppose your wish to buy crystals, but would suggest to use this way as an alternative, as I doubt you will be able to buy the crystals somewhen.

SoLooney

They just need to make earning transmutes between pvp and pve more balanced

Every 20k ap, you earn a geode from rotw that can give 4 to 25 transmutes and 50 transmutes everytime you earn 25k for a 30 day campaign

You get jack squat in terms of pve, no one likes doing vet hm dungeons just to get like 2 or 4 transmutes, such a waste of time

Trials are no better, you get a coffer once a week per toon giving you a crappy 5 stones.

Weekly trial rewards need to reward you with more than 5 stones, heck, I'm down for hm dungeons giving you 5 stones everytime you complete and same with trials

Katahdin

NO

Increased drop rate/additional sources
Yes

Purchase with crowns, gems, tickets....
HELL NO!

Taleof2Cities

NO

Dogzey wrote: »

A. ammm no it is not, they got a new combat dev team this year who are gone doing an "audit" changing putting everything on its head. If your trying to tell me scalebreaker DOT meta was intentional your delusional

B. Sorry I like to run PVE end game. Before you say "well that is your own decision" go back to last year the changes weren't as ridiculous or big every 3 months so I thought the crystals were ideal then

So any QoL change isn't intended? right dude

You choosing not to run the types of content that yield easy transmute stones isn’t anyone else’s problem ... especially not the game’s problem.

Everyone knows it takes minimal effort to get the 50-stone transmute geodes from Cyrodiil. That’s just one example though ...

L_Nici

OTHER

I remember the days as Clockwork launched and you got a transmutationgeod out of every single "Reward of the Worthy" in Cyrodiil. At that time they didn't even got used much, since everyone had farmed Sets with the already right trait, so they just ended up blocking everything, since you can't even place them in the bank.

After they reduced the droprate to one geod in the first reward and random after it, it was way better in my opinion, but sometimes I do wish there would be a reliable source, to get them, or that the geods would drop more crystals. I also want to be able to place them in the bank, if all 200 Crystals are full. It is just stupid if they block your inventory, the crystals are counted accountwide, so the geods really shouldn't be bound to character.

BXR_Lonestar

OTHER

I voted "Other." Honestly, purchasable gold mats or transmute crystals feels a little to close to P2W, but it would be great if they looked at:

1. increasing the sources of drops, increasing the amount that drops, and increasing the activities where you are guaranteed a drop; and
2. when you dismantle a gold item, you should get ALL, or at least HALF, your gold mats back

It would go a long way if they did these two things.

Shawn_PT

OTHER

Just remove the 100/200 capacity altogether. I'm swimming in geodes of all sizes and shapes. Heck I still have boxes from the anniversary event because they have crystals in them and I can't collect them.

Yes I transmute things now and then. Just last week I did two pieces. Yes I know all about extracting nirncrux from them. It's what I do when I need the stone. No, I'm not playing the meta dance and switching gear every month. I am waiting for the "balance" overhaul to be officially over and only then will I change things.

Geodes from dungeon bosses. Geodes from pledges. Geodes from trials. Geodes from campaign rewards. Geodes from Rewards of the Worthy. I don't know how much longer before my inventory collapses

Anony_Mouse

OTHER

I would like to see the cap lifted on how many transmute crystals you can hold at any one time.

Why is it capped at 200? That’s not even enough for a full 5 piece set.

If you do pledges along with PvP you’ll end up with tons of Geodes in your inventory that you cannot use as you are at your limit. And they don’t STACK in your inventory so take up our already precious inventory which has also not increased despite all these new items and sets being added to the game constantly.

NordSwordnBoard

NO

At a certain point you earn enough when you don't need them that you have a surplus. Keep the 50 geode camp rewards in the mail as long as possible. Just doing the stuff I normally do I get crystals regularly. It's nice to transmute a bunch of farmed gear to reduce the grind and get back to playing the game, the storage is just bad.

You do have to wonder why its not a 600 limit for plus players and 200 or 300 for regulars. 100 more is not a significant enough amount imo as that's only two inventory slots saved. You should have enough on hand as a veteran player to avoid time-sink weapon trait farms. As a plus member you should be able to retrait a 5 piece set and a weapon.

TLDR: Increase the storage not the drop rate.

J2JMC

OTHER

I'd prefer ZOS actually try to incentivize playing their content.

• Remove Transmute crystals.
• Make all gear besides Monster Gear and Arena Weapons BOE.
• Add New BOP "Monster" Jewelry to trials.
• Add BOP "Monster" Weapons to PVP (How they should be acquired tbd)
• Add a token system for each veteran dungeon, trial, and arena.
• 50 tokens can be spent to craft a specific piece (Weight & Trait) of BOE Gear
• 150 tokens can be spent to craft a specific piece (Weight & Trait) of BOP Gear
• 100 Undaunted Keys can be used to craft a specific shoulder piece (Weight & Trait)
• Veteran Final Boss Dungeons Will 2 give Tokens
• Veteran Arena Final Bosses will give 5 tokens
• Veteran Trial Bosses will give 10 Tokens
• Remove 2 hour Group Trading for BOP items
• Remove BOP Items from Golden Vendor (Regular Dungeon Sets are Now BOE based on bullet 2 so they would stay)
• Golden Vendor will sell the jewelry pieces from all BOE sets of one Zone and one Dungeon Every Week.

My suggestions (especially the removal of BOP trading) still have an arguably massive gear grind because this is an mmorpg. It's important that people have reasons to run the pve content for the game to sustain itself (pvp is largely self-sustaining). Anyone wanting something else honestly needs to find a different genre (or somehow reinvent the genre, which I am open too). That being said, my suggestions put a cap on how bad you can be screwed by RNG. At the end of the day, if you're looking for one particular piece of something (or a full set) you know the exact amount of runs you'll need to get it. With the numbers I put together, you'll most likely find what you're looking for prior to needing to use tokens, But if you don't, you'll have the option.

They also open up more money making avenues for end-game pve and pvp players as they'll be able to sell dungeon drops they don't need for gold.