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Help with StamNB Build tweaks (sorry for long post)

NTC150
NTC150
Hi. First of all I wanna clear out some things, I'm not a "good" player still have a ton to learn (for example animation cancel bash consistently, over spamm, positioning, using LOS and so on), don't have any interest in ganking and I like to build more for recoveries and dodge for survivability so medium armor and normally go for a sustain set and a damage one.
As of now I'm using Bloodspawn/Troll King still deciding which is better Bone Pirate and Gryphon all these are goldened out except jewelry traits and enchants as follows
Head: Bloodspawn/Troll King (Heavy) tri-stat Impen

Shoulder: Bloodspawn/Troll King (Medium) stam Impen

Body: Bone Pirate tri-stat on the legs and chest and Impen on them and the other 3 stam and well fitted

Jewelry: Gryphon infused with weapon dmg enchants

Weapons: front bar: Gryphon's Maul nirnhoned weapon damage for 5s. back bar: Master's Bow infused with disease enchant (weapon for 5s doesn't reapply on poison injection but the disease one does and even tho it would allow me to achieve higher weapon damage I can't keep it up consistently still need to l2p)

food: Dubious Camoran Throne

With Dragonhold the Ancient Dragonguard set seemed really appealing and artaeum takeaway broth give a lot more stats than dubious. So with artaeum Bone Pirate so Eternal Hunt came to mind (also as the added effect that I can use the rune to stop ppl in their tracks) so same Traits and enchants just switching gryphons and bone pirate for ancient dragonguard and eternal hunt

In terms of skills in using

1st bar: Relentless Focus, Surprise Attack, Ambush, Rally, Camo Hunter Ult: Incap

2nd bar: Cloak, Poison inject, Phanthasmal escape (I know shuffle is better but this reduces stress to my stam bar), Resolving Vigor, Evil Hunter Ult: Temporal Guard/Soul Siphon (still deciding which is better, still trying to understand why a healing defensive ult has a cast time i could kinda understand the others even though im still against it a defensive ult with a cast time seems even more painful since its meant to be used in a pinch)

The spot of phantasmal escape i have been using it as a flex spot switching from it to shade and reaper's mark and leeching strikes to try to find the one that suit the build better.

i know there are other good sets for nb such as Ravager Shacklebreaker and since it lost major fracture could take the mark option of the flex spot and use night mothers gaze

Just want some input and to try some fun ideas and try to better not only my personal skill but also my setup so all criticism is more than welcome and some tips on others aspects of the game aswell :smile:
  • NTC150
    NTC150
    Forgot to say that this is supposed to be CP PVP i dint put my CP's here cause i wouldn't want it to be even bigger that it already was but if someone asks I will post it
  • Iskiab
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    I can give some tips as a magblade because I use some of the same abilities, but being a magblade means I’d value different things and they might not translate to stamblade.

    I assume you play CP pvp? I’ve never used the roll dodge armour trait to see how much it helps with roll dodge cost, but just be aware how much survivability you’re giving up. I’ve been digging crit builds recently and I’m starting to think crit resists are just as important as armour.

    I’ve dropped shade in favour of mist form because of the high magicka cost of shade. If you’re already good with shade stick with it, but the cost is high. Especially with good stam regen mist form lasts 4 seconds which is the roll dodge debuff duration - so mist into roll dodge maybe?

    Switch out Soul Siphon for Soul Tether. Soul Siphon basicly has a 1 second cast time making it pretty bad in pvp. Tether has an up front heal and stun you can use to escape.

    You’re missing a cast time attack. Maybe snipe on your back bar? Cast time attacks are great, you cloak and cast one (or heavy attack) and they do the damage at the end of the GCD allowing you to do a normal attack right after for a bit of burst. Standing there out in the open with a cast time sucks yea, but cloak into it and it’s good. You also get the cloak weapon damage passives that way.

    I’d also add some speed somehow. You really do need some form of speed added to every pvp spec these days or you’ll get run down.

    Work in light attack weaving if you don’t have it down. NBs without light attacks are just gimped versions of other classes.

    Hope that helps a bit
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  • susmitds
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    Can we get a fully buffed stats screenshot or build editor link? That will give us a more complete idea of your build so we can rule out potential build issues. Also state mundus and race.
  • susmitds
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    Also dont bother to touch Snipe. Backbar snipe barely has any damage. Once you start using it, 95% of the time, you get destined to never be good at PvP.
  • NTC150
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    susmitds wrote: »
    Also dont bother to touch Snipe. Backbar snipe barely has any damage. Once you start using it, 95% of the time, you get destined to never be good at PvP.

    Don't like that skill not even a bit so dont worry
  • susmitds
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    Your build editor links points to a different build than mentioned though.

    Your build lacks all damage stats except critical hit chance. On a proc-less builds, you should be have at least 6k pen, 6k weapon damage, 30k stamina minimum(you can have one stat below par but then the rest would have to make up for it) at full buffs to have a shot to kill successfully in this tank meta. You have excess HP but low critical resists that I would consider having on a stamblade which is prone to burst. Also for a Khajiit, your max magicka as well as mag recovery is on the lesser end.

    I would suggest dropping Ambush to front bar Turn Evil, so you can use it offensive. Otherwise Magnum shot is superior as a back bar stun which you can also use offensively by bar swap cancelling it. Also you should some form of escape apart from Cloak, as in snare removal and Shadow Image.
    Edited by susmitds on November 2, 2019 3:25AM
  • NTC150
    NTC150
    susmitds wrote: »
    Your build editor links points to a different build than mentioned though.

    Your build lacks all damage stats except critical hit chance. On a proc-less builds, you should be have at least 6k pen, 6k weapon damage, 30k stamina minimum(you can have one stat below par but then the rest would have to make up for it) at full buffs to have a shot to kill successfully in this tank meta. You have excess HP but low critical resists that I would consider having on a stamblade which is prone to burst. Also for a Khajiit, your max magicka as well as mag recovery is on the lesser end.

    I would suggest dropping Ambush to front bar Turn Evil, so you can use it offensive. Otherwise Magnum shot is superior as a back bar stun which you can also use offensively by bar swap cancelling it. Also you should some form of escape apart from Cloak, as in snare removal and Shadow Image.

    The build I linked is the one I plan on making this patch the one im using now has 32k stamina but less weapon damage, the crit resist part im using 4 impen 3 well fitted since i roll dodge alot but i can bump the impen numbers up, the penetration dunno if you are counting the 20% pen that the maul offers so it would be 20% of their physical resist+3960 from cp, the 6k weapon damage can't figure out how to reach it without losing the sustain set (even with ravager at full stacks 500 WD it would only have 5721 WD if i switched up dragonguard) so any help there is welcome. The excess Hp is a wasted stat but the only hp increases i have are food, racials, the percent from CP, 3% from shadow passives and 1 stat line in the ancient dragonguard (without it i would have around 24,6k hp) so other than the set dunno how to get the hp lower so i can focus on the other damage stats like stam for example
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