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There is a cooldown on public dungeon boss loot that affects plunder skulls.

Minyassa
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It seems to be three minutes. If you see people waiting around a spawned boss not attacking it, it's because they're waiting on their cooldown. Since it takes just seconds to kill a boss, and the maximum amount of time you'd have to wait would be three minutes (assuming they had gotten to that boss a millisecond before you), an easy way to be an awesome person is to not rush in ahead of them and attack. A quick Say asking if they are waiting on cooldown would be a super cool thing to do.
  • idk
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    It used to have a 3 minute timer and Zos merely brought it back.

    Though, if you are wanting members of the general population to hold off killing a boss due to your timer as I think you are asking I do not think that will work most of the time. They all have their own timer.
  • Minyassa
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    idk wrote: »
    It used to have a 3 minute timer and Zos merely brought it back.

    Though, if you are wanting members of the general population to hold off killing a boss due to your timer as I think you are asking I do not think that will work most of the time. They all have their own timer.

    That's why I suggested it is an easy way to be an awesome person. Clearly in this game, few care about being awesome people, but on the off chance that some might like that and were not actually aware of the timer, I've done my part to inform. Maybe someone will see how little it costs to help other people.
  • idk
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    I do not see it as that way at all. First of all, they are rushing in and may not even see you. At that they would have no idea why you are just standing around and it is asking a lot to have someone stop what they are doing every time they see someone just standing near a boss they want to kill.

    The game does not revolve around any one person, or small group. Your idea is asking for it to do so. Yes, I understand the mild frustration involved but it would probably work much better to get over it and find a new target to kill as everyone is pretty much rushing to get the loot for the event.
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    You're arguing with me informing people of a mechanic and a reason for seeing people not attack in case they want to do the nice thing? Why? How does it harm you for people to be made aware that there's a situation they could take advantage of to be generous?
  • redspecter23
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    Public dungeon bosses respawn fairly quickly in most cases. Camping a boss is actually a very poor way to acquire skulls. Find a small public dungeon like Deshaan and just loop around killing bosses. While you're on cooldown, feel free to loot chests and keep yourself busy. You could even swap toons while on cooldown to get more skulls. Even better, leave the public dungeon and go to a group dungeon where there is no loot cooldown and you can get a skull every 2 minutes or faster.

    Anyone waiting up to 3 minutes or more on a single boss has now been informed of mechanics leading to much better ways to farm skulls
  • idk
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    What? In no way have I suggested it is a bad thing to try to inform people. You are putting words into my mouth in suggesting that.

    I am merely suggesting they are likely aware of the mechanic (the timer) and are in a hurry. I am also suggesting it is a lot to expect for people to stop and ask anyone who is standing nearby why they are standing there when they are in a hurry themselves. They are also not very likely to see your thread as the forum population pales compared to the game population. I think you need to relax a bit if you take that as me begin hurt by your thread.
  • UrbanMonk
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    The best way to farm Plumders, so far I've experienced is nFG1 Get 4DD group, skip all trash and run from 1 Boss to next. Takes about 4-5 min to complete one run and with 5 bosses that's 5 skills in 5 minutes. Beats any other method from my perspective.
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  • Welanduz
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    Minyassa wrote: »
    It seems to be three minutes. If you see people waiting around a spawned boss not attacking it, it's because they're waiting on their cooldown. Since it takes just seconds to kill a boss, and the maximum amount of time you'd have to wait would be three minutes (assuming they had gotten to that boss a millisecond before you), an easy way to be an awesome person is to not rush in ahead of them and attack. A quick Say asking if they are waiting on cooldown would be a super cool thing to do.

    OK, let us compare

    Case 1:
    I waited 3 min. Now I come to "your" boss and have to wait 2 min due to your cooldown.
    --> Me: 5 min
    --> You: 3 min

    Case 2:
    I waited 3 min. Now I come to "your" boss and kill him
    --> Me: 3 min
    --> You: 1 min + respawn time boss = ~ 5 min

    You see your mistake?

    What we have in common:
    We both want to minimize our waiting time. For exactly the same "selfish" reasons!

    The differenz:
    I don't call you a not "awesome person"

    Best regards
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  • sudaki_eso
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    Dont farm public dungeons for skulls, its not effective :wink: If you can do a public dungeon by yourself you can also solo nDungeons like FG1, DC1 and CoA1, bosses in there have no cooldown and you can just kill one by one and always get the skull. It took me 25 minutes for all 3 alone and you will always end up with 17 skulls this way. When done repeat...
    Edited by sudaki_eso on October 29, 2019 9:34AM
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  • Ragged_Claw
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    I find the best thing to do is to fall in step with other people doing the circuit, that way we're all more or less on the same timer. If I need a break, I wait by one boss until they've done another loop then continue. It doesn't always work because the public dungeons are chaotic atm and some groups go a different way around etc. Then for a bit of peace and quiet I go solo some group dugeons, no worries then about people unloading on the boss before you can get there :lol:
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  • Lord_Ninka
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    It's easy to get upset about stuff like this, and you're right it would be really nice if everyone was always super considerate to whatever you and I are doing, but try to see if it ever actually delays your next plunder skull by as much as a minute. I doubt it if you're grinding public dungeons for the skulls.

    My best advice is to remember how little you are delayed and not expect to get the skull exactly on cooldown, expect maybe 4 and a half minutes between and you won't be disappointed so easily. And enjoy that you managed to log in during an event! Many of us just get error messages from an overloaded server as usual.

    You can't reach everyone with this post and even if you could, should everyone really stop to ask about your timer and then wait a minute with you so that your next skull won't be delayed a minute? They too just want to just get in there and get the loot as soon as possible, just like you. And they might not even know about the timer or speak English. Even if they do they may have forgotten for a minute, so you know, it's no use letting it bother you if you can help it.

    Have a nice day :smile:
    Edited by Lord_Ninka on October 29, 2019 12:24PM
  • Langdon64
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    I really don't mind people killing the boss when I'm on cooldown. I am usually afk or reading a book and sipping coffee while I wait. I prefer a leisurely farm over rushing around non-stop. But that's just my playstyle. I understand everyone plays differently. I would not expect another player to wait at my convenience, however.
  • redlink1979
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    All the content has a cool down timer.

    Example: Delves bosses have a +- 5 minute cool down timer. If you loot him/her again before that, you will just get a few gold coins.

    Not all are aware that it just takes a hit or 2 to be able to loot the creature - you don't have to annihilate it before anyone gets close....
    Edited by redlink1979 on October 29, 2019 12:29PM
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  • Mr_Walker
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    4 dps. nFG1. 7-8 mins tops. 0 cooldown. 5 skulls.

    Thank me later.
  • VaranisArano
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    All the content has a cool down timer.

    Example: Delves bosses have a +- 5 minute cool down timer. If you loot him/her again before that, you will just get a few gold coins.

    Not all are aware that it just takes a hit or 2 to be able to loot the creature - you don't have to annihilate it before anyone gets close....

    Group dungeons don't have the cooldown timer. I can get all five plunder skulls from Fungal Grotto 1 in a less than 10 minute run.

    On my tank, the queue is nearly instant, so it's the most efficient way I've found to farm.
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    All the content has a cool down timer.

    Example: Delves bosses have a +- 5 minute cool down timer. If you loot him/her again before that, you will just get a few gold coins.

    Not all are aware that it just takes a hit or 2 to be able to loot the creature - you don't have to annihilate it before anyone gets close....
    That is another cooldown, if an delve boss respawn fast and you kill it again you will not get loot.
    if you have never done the delve before the boss will always spawn but others who just killed it will not get loot now.
    Its no cooldown on public dungeon bosses, but its an 3 minute one for the skulls in public dungeons.

    As other say its none in group dungeons so you could farm nFG1
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • Jayman1000
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    Yup, and some public dungeons the bosses are especially close to each other and fast to reach. But that 3 minute cooldown seems pretty wonky. Sometimes I kill a boss, get the loot, then a minute later I kill second boss (that I didnt kill in that play session before) but get no loot. And this happens regularly. Seems sometimes the cooldown affects not only the boss you killed, but also other bosses you have yet to kill, or that you havent killed in a good while. Other times you can kill two bosses almost right after eachother and both gives the loot.
    Edited by Jayman1000 on October 29, 2019 1:02PM
  • Nestor
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    The simple thing to do, is to wait if you see others standing around waiting. Then get a hit in when others attack.
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  • SidraWillowsky
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    I don't usually pay attention, so thanks for the heads-up. Next time I’m in a public dungeon or delve I’ll put a note in zone chat that the boss is up. It’s been utter chaos in every single delve and public dungeon that I’ve been in, so I’ve just been trying to get hits in on bosses. People are running in a million different directions and a lot of times I can’t find *any* bosses up, period. My frustration has been mounting, so I’ve probably been a little less considerate than I’d normally be.
  • Zephard
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    Mr_Walker wrote: »
    4 dps. nFG1. 7-8 mins tops. 0 cooldown. 5 skulls.

    Thank me later.

    So got a different question.

    I am assuming you have your group, and you go to the dungeon directly.
    You finish the dungeon.
    If you just leave and go back in, are you not in the same "finished" dungeon?
    Do you have to break up the group to reset the dungeon?
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    Zephard wrote: »
    Mr_Walker wrote: »
    4 dps. nFG1. 7-8 mins tops. 0 cooldown. 5 skulls.

    Thank me later.

    So got a different question.

    I am assuming you have your group, and you go to the dungeon directly.
    You finish the dungeon.
    If you just leave and go back in, are you not in the same "finished" dungeon?
    Do you have to break up the group to reset the dungeon?

    I use the dungeon finder to queue for "Specific Dungeons", so I haven't had that problem. Finish the dungeon, say "tyfg", leave group and dungeon, then queue again.
  • wnights
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    Welanduz wrote: »
    Minyassa wrote: »
    It seems to be three minutes. If you see people waiting around a spawned boss not attacking it, it's because they're waiting on their cooldown. Since it takes just seconds to kill a boss, and the maximum amount of time you'd have to wait would be three minutes (assuming they had gotten to that boss a millisecond before you), an easy way to be an awesome person is to not rush in ahead of them and attack. A quick Say asking if they are waiting on cooldown would be a super cool thing to do.

    OK, let us compare

    Case 1:
    I waited 3 min. Now I come to "your" boss and have to wait 2 min due to your cooldown.
    --> Me: 5 min
    --> You: 3 min

    Case 2:
    I waited 3 min. Now I come to "your" boss and kill him
    --> Me: 3 min
    --> You: 1 min + respawn time boss = ~ 5 min

    You see your mistake?

    What we have in common:
    We both want to minimize our waiting time. For exactly the same "selfish" reasons!

    The differenz:
    I don't call you a not "awesome person"

    Best regards

    Thank you! Exactly my thoughts. I am all for being thoughtful of other people but this is a situation when everyone is sacrificing a little of their time and you just have to learn to deal with it.
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  • LadySinflower
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    I've been soloing nFG1 every day. I'm a NB so I can stealth by the trash to get to the bosses. It doesn't take long to run through, exit, go back in, repeat.
  • stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO
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    Public dungeon bosses have significantly less HP than even the low-end group dungeon bosses, so my relatively low DPS healer gets through the public dungeons solo quite a lot faster. For a high DPS build, either option would probably give about the same PSPM (plunder skulls per minute), but I prefer public dungeons. Besides, for the past few days, zoning in and out of a group dungeon to reset it has taken several minutes during prime time, while in a public dungeon you can simply stay and farm skulls for as long as you want.
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    I've been soloing nFG1 every day. I'm a NB so I can stealth by the trash to get to the bosses. It doesn't take long to run through, exit, go back in, repeat.

    Another option is to just die by the mobs and run to the boss while you are in ghost mode. Super effective in vBRF when you don't want to fight for 15 minutes in between boss encounters.
  • DarcyMardin
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    If I see someone standing around not fighting a boss, I assume they are having a snack, taking a break, or using their browser. The public dungeons are so crowded and bosses respawn so quickly that I don’t see any reason to wait around just in case some dude standing there decides to fight.
  • Royaji
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    Zephard wrote: »
    Mr_Walker wrote: »
    4 dps. nFG1. 7-8 mins tops. 0 cooldown. 5 skulls.

    Thank me later.

    So got a different question.

    I am assuming you have your group, and you go to the dungeon directly.
    You finish the dungeon.
    If you just leave and go back in, are you not in the same "finished" dungeon?
    Do you have to break up the group to reset the dungeon?

    Leader ports out. Switches the dungeon to vet, then immediately back to normal. Voila, the rest of the group gets "you are not in your instance" message and gets ported out. The leader can port into a fresh instance.
  • sudaki_eso
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    Zephard wrote: »
    So got a different question.

    I am assuming you have your group, and you go to the dungeon directly.
    You finish the dungeon.
    If you just leave and go back in, are you not in the same "finished" dungeon?
    Do you have to break up the group to reset the dungeon?

    Teleport directly into another one like dc1 or coa1, both are easy and fast to solo and are dropping 6 skulls per run - this way you dont have to worry about resetting the dungeon, just move from fg1 -> dc1 -> coa1 -> fg1 -> dc1....

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  • Taleof2Cities
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    Lots of good suggestions in this thread.

    Hopefully, the OP can use one of those instead of trying to micromanage players.
  • cyclonus11
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    When I see someone near a delve boss, I feel like I have to attack it or the others will melt the boss to 0 before I have a chance to even land a hit.

    Also, some people might just be after the boss to finish a quest or complete the delve/dungeon, and are not interested in the plunder skulls.
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