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I hate the Witches event.

  • jircris11
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    Aptonoth wrote: »
    Too much stuff is locked behind group content. At this point just going to buy tickets to get what I want since playing isn't fun right now. I hate social games like ESO and I feel like ESO has been neglecting its solo player base for too long. If people didn't suck because of the new patch I could soldier on but when a big sweeping patch comes out and your expecting people to do hard content to get stuff its never going to happen.

    I want in solo in game ways to earn everything except trials content.

    I hate grouping but I took this chance to help some new ppl learn a dungeon a day.
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  • Jayman1000
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    Aptonoth wrote: »
    Too much stuff is locked behind group content. At this point just going to buy tickets to get what I want since playing isn't fun right now. I hate social games like ESO and I feel like ESO has been neglecting its solo player base for too long. If people didn't suck because of the new patch I could soldier on but when a big sweeping patch comes out and your expecting people to do hard content to get stuff its never going to happen.

    I want in solo in game ways to earn everything except trials content.

    But you can solo most everything besides trials and vet DLC dungeons. Well maybe not that bugged fire boss in South Elsweyr but pretty much everything else can.

    And as far as witches event go you can earn exorbitant amount of event loot soloing all things overland galore (delves, public dungeons, dolmens, WB's).
    Edited by Jayman1000 on October 26, 2019 2:37PM
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  • Eldartar
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    The only thing I can not do in the Witches event is the Trial part. Everything else I have done Solo OR with other players being there too.

    If you want to play ESO totally Solo, then you're in the wrong place.
  • belial5221_ESO
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    If you own Morrowind,easiest way to get a gold plunder box and ticket is Huntmaster in Ald Ruhn.The miniboss is super easy to solo,and counts as public and sweeps,and I tihnk the random vamp/WW/daedric spawns count too.People are always in alikir doing dolmens,so easy peasy there for that insurgent box.Stonefalls,you can go fight the crab WB since alot of ppl are usually farming it,or in elsweyr since it new and ppl like farming the new stuff.Do undaunted delve(not pledges) and get easy delve boss to fight solo.There's 4 of the boxes that aren't locked behind group content,and are easy to do.
  • Linaleah
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    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    If you're good at the game and have access to Orsinium, the only gold skull you won't get playing solo is the Trials skull. Even an average solo player should be able to solo normal fungal grotto, normal maelstrom, and many of the base game world bosses.

    If you cannot, I wouldn't be pointing fingers at how much anyone else sucks. Because all of the above can be done with like 25k damage.

    Er, less than 25k. Much less. More like 10 to 15k for the easier dungeons and normal Maelstrom.

    The key to soloing the easy group dungeons with lower DPS is simply to have a survivable build. For a new player trying it, if you can solo a public dungeon and a base game WB, you can absolutely solo an easy group dungeon.

    You'll fight a lot of mobs, so bring AOE. And be prepared to self-heal proactively because you'll spend a lot of time being CC'ed by the final boss if you do anything harder than Fungal Grotto 1. I think I had like 7k DPS on Kinlord Rilis when I first soloed Banished Cells 1 just because of constant CCs. Most of my damage came from making sure I had my ground DOTs on him consistently.

    So its totally doable with rather low DPS if players are willing to try.

    last night I watched my SO do entirety of maelstrom arena on normal on my semi abandoned, khajiit sorceress, who was wearing primarily lvl 26 leather gear at lvl 35 (he threw on whatever pieces dropped in arena, as he went and most of them weren't magika either), whom he respecced to magika cause its what he is more comfortable with, except her destro skill line was all of 3 and the only staff she has was white quality birch staff with no traits or enchants. it took him hours and there were some pretty rough moments here and there, but he was able to do it. he wanted to try if he could and yep.. he could. needless to say, her dps was... not high at all. (understatement of the century)

    in before nerf sorc. no. bring other classes up to that level. but I digress. the point is if you have patience and decent reflexes, there is a good amount of content on normal that doesn't have enrage timers or strict dps checks. its easier WITH high dps, but its doable without. and to reiterate, because it just occurred to me that people might use it as proof that the game is too easy. doable =/= easy. doable = can be done, sometimes with a great deal of effort. hard things are doable. impossible things should not exist in video games IMO.
    Edited by Linaleah on October 26, 2019 4:27PM
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  • upquark
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    Eruceninde wrote: »
    Troll is trolling.

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  • LukosCreyden
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    This bait gets a 7 out of 10, because loads of people seem to have fallen for it.
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  • I_killed_Vivec
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    Eruceninde wrote: »
    Troll is trolling.

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  • HjorrMundGandr
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    Aptonoth wrote: »
    I hate social games like ESO.

    Well its an MMO and by nature they are social games, I guess you can wait for Elder Scrolls 6 if its too much..?
    Aptonoth wrote: »
    and your expecting people to do hard content
    Yes... they are, that is the point of a game.
    Literally all the content in this event can be done in normal and solo'd except for the Trial Dremora Coffer and that in itself is a cake walk, go to Craglorn and get a nCR run and bam. Done.

    Hard Content....pffffftt.. Sounds more like people are turning away from challenges....... because they are ......Challenges!
  • mayasunrising
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    Aptonoth wrote: »
    I miss single player games so much. Sooooo so much on a fundamental level you people will never understand anymore.

    I have pretty high social anxiety both online and off, so I truly get why interaction with other players could be hard for you. But if that's the case, why force yourself to have the social interaction when you could load Skyrim, or play something like Assasins Creed Odyssey instead? Both are beautiful games and could potentially deliver unlimited hours of play. Or buy a single player game that resonates with you. You can't expect any MMO to cater 100% to single players. That's not why they were created.

    As to witches festival rewards being locked behind multi-player content; that's just not true. I don't think there's any reward - or title - that can't be obtained by soloing something (delve bosses, WBs, or easier dungeon like Fungal Groto I) or by simply buying with gold in game. Even the rune boxes for the masks are trade-able. Outfit pages and the momento are available on the Prestige vendor.
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  • Nerouyn
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    Aptonoth wrote: »
    Too much stuff is locked behind group content.

    ZO is embarassingly desperate for people to play their group content, especially trials, and this is a pathetic attempt to push people into it. Same as how they're desperate for people to pvp so they added pvp stuff to the Jester's festival.

    On the plus side, you can buy your way around this one with gold, i.e. buy the style pages from other players. That's something. But it shatters the very thin illusion that achievements are actually an achievement.

    For me it's a death blow to the Witches Festival achievements and by extension, all of the holiday ones. I don't care about or do them any more.

    I get my indrik tickets and get gone.

    And next year I will be ignoring the ticket madness too. It's a stupid, drawn out, exhausting year long grind which just makes me hate the game.
  • mcagatayg
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    Aptonoth wrote: »
    I hate social games like ESO

    Well you know... It's an MMO after all... Who could've guessed...
  • Tubben
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    mcagatayg wrote: »
    Aptonoth wrote: »
    I hate social games like ESO

    Well you know... It's an MMO after all... Who could've guessed...

    But there is no T for Together in MMO :-)
  • Hanokihs
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    Personally, the only trash thing about events is everyone camping everywhere, 110% in my way. And I'm sure they also consider me to be in their way. But it's impossible to go anywhere or do anything without someone making it tedious, is the point.

    Getting my gold skull from delves takes about 5 minutes too long because the boss is being camped (and therefore gone by the time I get to it). Ugh.

    Then I move to a world boss that never sees traffic any other day, only to find fifteen people potentially killing it too fast for me to get a skull. So I have to wait. Ugh.

    If I jump to any given dolmen, there's 30+ players stacked on it, lagging it out beyond all reason. UGH.

    Can't grind public dungeons because, without fail, someone wants to loop the opposite way and jack up my boss timers just when I'm hitting my groove. UGH!

    Can't even go fishing because now the spots tell you what kind they are and the bait tells you where to use it, so all of a sudden, people who normally don't give a dump about guts and crawlers are rinsing all the fishing spawns I need to finish up. UUUGGGHHH!

    Maelstrom is tedious even on normal for regular plunder farming, and I haven't found anyone offering noob trial carries for the gold skull this year (console endgame is dead at the best of times), so that achievement is pointless on my characters who don't have it. Now I'm hiding in Fungal Grotto, being a Halloween Humbug and waiting for everyone to quit again and let the world go back to normal.

    For new players, I'm sure it's lovely to clear the maps and have some help with levelling low characters, but I've done it all like 18 times and really just want a quiet place to get my skulls and vendor some loot. Makes me feel like a grumpy old man in a convention town, wondering why all these new folks gotta breeze through and crowd out my serenity. Solo instances would make the experience infinitely better. How much I gotta pay? Because I'll fling my wallet wherever I gotta, I don't even care at this point.
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  • Rave the Histborn
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    Aptonoth wrote: »
    Too much stuff is locked behind group content. At this point just going to buy tickets to get what I want since playing isn't fun right now. I hate social games like ESO and I feel like ESO has been neglecting its solo player base for too long. If people didn't suck because of the new patch I could soldier on but when a big sweeping patch comes out and your expecting people to do hard content to get stuff its never going to happen.

    I want in solo in game ways to earn everything except trials content.

    You can do all of the content on normal. If you can't clear that find a game that suits you better.
  • EllieBlue
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    They're taking care of it for you. Now you don't have to worry about the Witches Festival anymore. Can't worry about it when you can't even login, right!
    Edited by EllieBlue on October 27, 2019 4:43AM
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  • LadySinflower
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    The first day I got most of the gold plunder skulls solo. I ran a delve, participated in a dolmen, walked up to world bosses and killed them with others who were standing around, ran FG1 alone, killed a dragon with another group of folks who were standing around... Didn't formally group with anybody for any of that. I solicited a group in Craglorn for Dragonstar arena but you can run maelstrom solo for the arena skull. The only one I didn't get was the trial one because I was tired and went to bed. You don't have to group up to get most of the gold skulls. The only one absolutely impossible to get solo is the one from the trial bosses. This is a great event. Lots of stuff to do, fun.
    Edited by LadySinflower on October 27, 2019 4:24AM
  • O_LYKOS
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    "I hate social games like ESO"

    Social being the key word here. It's an MMO.
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  • Stibbons
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    Very rare event to actully get any of the achievments. Try to get the rare resipes :D
  • barney2525
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    casparian wrote: »
    Aptonoth wrote: »
    Too much stuff is locked behind group content. ... I want in solo in game ways to earn everything except trials content.

    Solo player here. Every kind of Dremora Plunder Skull is earnable through soloable content without a great deal of skill, except trials.

    Arenas: normal Maelstrom is incredibly easy.

    Dungeons: just do normal Wayrest 1 or something.

    World bosses: most base game world bosses are very easy to solo.

    Dolmens: very easy to solo.

    Public dungeons: very easy to solo. If you're having trouble, the Stonefalls public dungeon has particularly easy bosses -- they are alone with no adds, fight in enclosed spaces, and if you're having trouble, it's easy to run around the corner where they can't get you and heal up.

    Delves: this content is intended to be soloed.

    None of this content is hard, and I've been getting every kind of dremora skull solo except for trials with no issue. If you're not sufficiently leveled or skilled yet to solo some of the content mentioned above, don't complain about content being gated -- not all content is meant to be available or easy for all players. But for a decently skilled, high-ish level player, the event is almost entirely soloable.


    Been to a Dolmen recently, that you could solo? Between the 6000 characters and the piles of dead NPcs you can't even Find the boss.

    B)
  • vilio11
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    Aptonoth wrote: »
    I miss single player games so much. Sooooo so much on a fundamental level you people will never understand anymore.

    Then go and play single player gamez
  • starkerealm
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    Jeremy wrote: »
    Aptonoth wrote: »
    Too much stuff is locked behind group content. At this point just going to buy tickets to get what I want since playing isn't fun right now. I hate social games like ESO and I feel like ESO has been neglecting its solo player base for too long. If people didn't suck because of the new patch I could soldier on but when a big sweeping patch comes out and your expecting people to do hard content to get stuff its never going to happen.

    I want in solo in game ways to earn everything except trials content.

    Two out of seven skulls are locked behind group content.... dungeons and trials. The game has an activity finder to help solo players find groups for dungeons. The exception is trials, which should be added to the activity finder. But ironically that is the one thing you don't see to have a problem with. So no offense, but your criticism here is without merit. ESO is an extremely solo-friendly game.

    @Jeremy, trials really aren't designed for a groupfinder system. It's not just bigger boss health pools, the mechanics require a degree of coordination you're just not going to see out of most PUGs.
  • LadySinflower
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    I agree that trials wouldn't really work in group finder. Most dungeons that I've PUGged, people just start running and expect everyone to keep up. Most of the time nobody is on comms, so there's no communication. In the trials I've gone through you really do need coordination. It wouldn't work with a bunch of people just thrown together who weren't talking to each other.
  • Mayrael
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    Lol? Only the trial dremora skull requires you to run with group. Everything else I've done completely solo.
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  • theyancey
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    I want more solo content as well. They got it right I the base game. There were many epic fights that provided you with NPC group members. It is not that difficult to allow that option today. Four person dungeon but only 2 of you? Let the game add a couple. This simple option would open up much of the game's content to everyone at the expense of no one.
  • brtomkin
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    In the context of this event, dragons should count as trial bosses instead of insurgent.

    Edited by brtomkin on October 27, 2019 3:25PM
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  • gplumblingnrb18_ESO
    WELL I STILL CANT LOGIN! GETS TO CHARACTER LOAD... SELECT CHARACTER - DISCONNECTED... CONTINUOUSLY

    And I completely blame this event.
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    So far pretty much everything can be bought or traded and I think there's been a price crash on the trial and arena Dremora pages too.

    Events like this -- the best part is when you get rolling and you start finishing some achievements and you have all these leftovers that you can give away to help others.
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    barney2525 wrote: »
    casparian wrote: »
    Aptonoth wrote: »
    Too much stuff is locked behind group content. ... I want in solo in game ways to earn everything except trials content.

    Solo player here. Every kind of Dremora Plunder Skull is earnable through soloable content without a great deal of skill, except trials.

    Arenas: normal Maelstrom is incredibly easy.

    Dungeons: just do normal Wayrest 1 or something.

    World bosses: most base game world bosses are very easy to solo.

    Dolmens: very easy to solo.

    Public dungeons: very easy to solo. If you're having trouble, the Stonefalls public dungeon has particularly easy bosses -- they are alone with no adds, fight in enclosed spaces, and if you're having trouble, it's easy to run around the corner where they can't get you and heal up.

    Delves: this content is intended to be soloed.

    None of this content is hard, and I've been getting every kind of dremora skull solo except for trials with no issue. If you're not sufficiently leveled or skilled yet to solo some of the content mentioned above, don't complain about content being gated -- not all content is meant to be available or easy for all players. But for a decently skilled, high-ish level player, the event is almost entirely soloable.


    Been to a Dolmen recently, that you could solo? Between the 6000 characters and the piles of dead NPcs you can't even Find the boss.

    B)

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