Char build

Petoften

Hi, I'm making another nightblade (khajit). I didn't want to 'cookie cutter', but something different. So I was thinking of prioritizing the usually little used fighters guild/undaunted.

Then I found you can't really make a build out of them. So, do what I can with them, plus whatever.

The only armor set I could find that uses them was Spelunkers, which uses undaunted; then out of various 'good' sets I noticed Mother's Sorrow, and made/looted those sets.

So, what should I do? Are those so bad I need to change them? Better to check before I start putting yellow glyphs on.

What would be some skills to use? I like to keep that simple - a bread and butter attack, a 'setup'/timed/dot type attack to open with, a 'heal/leech' attack, a 'finisher' attack.

Undaunted/Fighters Guild where possible, dual wield or class skills probably, something interesting. Basic decent build - dungeon/vet, shouldn't that work for normal trial also?

Taleof2Cities

That setup will work fine, @Petoften.

Unless you’re chasing leaderboards or doing vet DLC trials, you can more or less run whatever you want.

Even skill selection is pretty wide open. Play what’s fun for you.

Petoften

Well, I've tried two vet dungeons so far, and on both after about 3 hours, we couldn't kill the final boss; it didn't feel like my DPS was that good. There's a lot of guessing on things like skills.

UntilValhalla13

Spelunker is honestly probably one of the worst sets in the game. It's also a medium armor stamina set, and mother's sorrow is a light armor magic set, so you're losing out on both fronts.

Petoften

Not mother's sorrow, I was wrong, I meant night mother's gaze.

azjuwelz

There are several things that go into your dps, and sets is 1 of them, but your skills and rotation is another. (Also, you do have all your attribute points in Stamina for your stamina build, correct?) Another thing that can impact your damage is making sure to have all the right passives and CP.

Just to get an idea, what's your weapon damage? Also what level are you?

Petoften

this char is 50, about cp497. I used the alcast guide for cp, and all the points are in stam (as of recently, when I found I hadn't hit save on them and they had no points). Weapons are yellow, so 1300 and some damage. Lots of passives.

I don't really like 'rotations'; I described the sort of attacks I like in the OP. I'm mainly now using one dual wield skill about every 10 seconds, with a few others.

I'm aware skills affect dps, that's why I posted this, I was looking more for specifics.

UntilValhalla13

Honestly, rotations are what kill things. Having multiple dots ticking damage at the same time. If you treat dungeons like a ganker in PVP or something, it's...going to take 3 hours, which isn't fair to the rest of the group

Petoften

Looks like I'm not going to get much more than 'here's the optimal, you should do that cookie cutter.'

Petoften

They should just take out choice, and level you cookie cutter as you level.

Royaji

You can start by taking a standard build and replacing parts of it with FG/Undaunted abilities. Out of all of them you can use:

Silver Shards as a spammable (might be hard to sustain though)
Trap as a DoT/buff (commonly used already)
Dawnbreaker to replace your ulti
Expert Hunter is pretty bad but you can make it work since I'm guessing you are not using pots
Shadow Silk as a DoT

But in reality, your problem is not this specific build. Without a rotation and with your general approach you will struggle to perform anywhere beyond the easiest vet dungeons regardless of your build.