Stop nerfing Magden pvp

Psijic42

Dear ZOS,

Please stop nerfing pvp Magden.

After the recent changes to destructive reach, wherein the 40m range morph no longer procs stun/cc, and with the upcomming 10% nerf to screaming cliff racer (only stam gets a bleed, mag just gets a straight nerf), magdens are going to be somewhat weak for their spammable. Yes, swarm is gaining a minor vulnerability debuff, which is nice, however in PvP direct damage > dots, also 'off balance' does basically nothing in PvP.
Also, I personally never found Arctic Blast to be "awkward". It is an amazing skill!!! A stun with a strong self heal? Yes please and thank you. Now it will become a weak aoe dot, with a 6 meter radius that only stuns after 3 procs? aka not going to happen...
Basically anyone who loves magden should just play magplar at this point, better heals, better damage, and they have an execute.

Please, I love ESO, I have nearly 4000 hours in the game and magden is my favorite pvp class, but at this point magplar is just so much better. Please please, stop nerfing pvp Magden. If anything they need a slight buff. In terms of lore, a magica wielding nature druid is a perfectly valid archetype, there is no reason for the nerfs. Thank you for your consideration. I love this game.

Sincerely,
Psijic42

LeHarrt91

As a Warden main, I agree the removal of the Stun from Shock Clench/ Reach sucks for MagDen, they should have changed how the Masters Staff interacted with the skill.
I did prefer the old Blast over the new one but it was cluncky to weave and i didnt need more heals i needed damage, so i dont use a stun atm, but with the change to Dive (off balance) we get a stun from doing a heavy attack.
As for Dive, i do not use this ability in PvP (but might with off balance change), its too slow, and is just flat damage, Crushing Shock is far better imo as its fast, easy to weave, interrupts, and can proc burning, concussed and chilled.
The change to Swarm is nice tho, even if it did received a damage nerf.

Vapirko

Off balance is strong in PvP especially if you are a DoT mag build and can get that exploiter passive. But either way it’s still a 10% buff which is not insignificant. And it can be used at range which is good pressure. Idk about maidens much but I know off balance is very nice to have.

SidraWillowsky

How bout we apply this to PvE too?

LeHarrt91

SidraWillowsky wrote: »

How bout we apply this to PvE too?

The addition of minor Vulnerability is great for PvE, and the off balance uptime too. On Live with the current DoT meta MagDen is pretty decent, its just Necro overshadows everyone.

ESO_Nightingale

Vapirko wrote: »

Off balance is strong in PvP especially if you are a DoT mag build and can get that exploiter passive. But either way it’s still a 10% buff which is not insignificant. And it can be used at range which is good pressure. Idk about maidens much but I know off balance is very nice to have.

Exploiter isnt worth it in pvp. You're losing out on 75 cp points to buff something that doesn't have anywhere near enough uptime. And you're only buffing fetcher if you're using it, and Northern storm.

ChunkyCat

Psijic42 wrote: »

Dear ZOS,

Please stop nerfing pvp Magden.

leepalmer95

ESO_Nightingale wrote: »

Vapirko wrote: »

Off balance is strong in PvP especially if you are a DoT mag build and can get that exploiter passive. But either way it’s still a 10% buff which is not insignificant. And it can be used at range which is good pressure. Idk about maidens much but I know off balance is very nice to have.

Exploiter isnt worth it in pvp. You're losing out on 75 cp points to buff something that doesn't have anywhere near enough uptime. And you're only buffing fetcher if you're using it, and Northern storm.

what about the new aoe dmg cc thing?

ESO_Nightingale

leepalmer95 wrote: »

ESO_Nightingale wrote: »

Vapirko wrote: »

Off balance is strong in PvP especially if you are a DoT mag build and can get that exploiter passive. But either way it’s still a 10% buff which is not insignificant. And it can be used at range which is good pressure. Idk about maidens much but I know off balance is very nice to have.

Exploiter isnt worth it in pvp. You're losing out on 75 cp points to buff something that doesn't have anywhere near enough uptime. And you're only buffing fetcher if you're using it, and Northern storm.

what about the new aoe dmg cc thing?

Arctic Blast? not worth it. too unreliable.