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Sunderflame + similar sets diversity

Dogzey
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Does anybody miss these style sets? I think it was pre Summerset but I could be wrong. I liked the whole diversity and responsibility you had in end game raiding i.e if you were X stam class you needed these sets to buff the group etc. Also the need for a stam templar for potl. I see they are kinda going back to this with the PTS changes to stonefist and engulfing flames.

Nowadays its just all stam in rele + loki and mag in siroria + mothersorrow, everything feels too cookie cutter. Master architect and war machine feel a lot more redundant also with loki and more stams in trials other than vCR and vSS.

Just a discussion that came up amongst my core team recently, anybody else wish sets like these came back?

Edit: to avoid confusion I mean add more sets like sunderflame back into the game
Edited by Dogzey on October 2, 2019 10:59AM
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PvE High Elf Mag DK - Irelia Dragneel (Voice of Reason) (Dro-m'Athra Destroyer)
PvE Orc Stam DK - Minato Uzamaki
PvE Breton Templar - Ashura Namikaze (Voice of Reason)
PvE Altmer Magcro - Zeref Dragneel
PvE Orc Stamcro - Saphira Dragonsbane (Dro-m'Athra Destroyer)
PvE Orc Stam Sorc - Laxus Dreyar
PvE Imperial DK Tank- Tartarus the Abyss
PvE Dumner Magblade - Apex the Destroyer (Flawless Conqueror)
PvE/PVP Orc Stamblade - IIzuna Uchiha
PvE Altmer Warden Healer - Lady Netch

PVP Dumner Mag DK - Lady Embers

Clears
vAS HM
vMoL HM
vHoF HM
vCR +1
vSS
Craglorns HM

Sunderflame + similar sets diversity 12 votes

Yes - I wish more sets like these were introduced
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PhilhypeCorpiermzprxCoggoMaleAmazonHarrdarrzarrCatastrophicSuccesscolossalvoidsDreadDaedroth 9 votes
No - I prefer it the way it is now
0%
Other
25%
AsardestyggerbobFierceSam 3 votes
  • Asardes
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    Lokkestiiz is really unbalanced, since you get 15s of Major Slayer for just activating a synergy. So with just 1 synergy you get 75% up time provided you hit it on cool-down, which is relatively easy.

    Relequen does 7-10K DPS all by itself, for just spamming light attacks at the target, which is considerably more than almost all player skills, come Dragonhold nerfs.

    Most stamina DDs just equip those 2 sets and a monster set: Velidreth or Maarselok, with either Maester or Maelstrom bow back bar.

    Very diverse builds indeed.
    Edited by Asardes on October 2, 2019 10:47AM
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  • FierceSam
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    I’d rather there were fewer sets in the game, but more genuinely competitive diversity.

    I’d be perfectly happy to have far fewer sets which dropped in more varied locations. So maybe parts of a set dropped in one dungeon and other parts in another.

    I get that ZOS used BiS gear sets to encourage purchase of chapters, DLCs and ESO+ subs and I’m fine with that...

    The issue for me with using varied sets is more one of lack of storage space and poor descriptions of what the sets actually do. I don’t have enough storage space to blindly collect and compare sets that ‘might’ be useful, the only place that’s happening is on the PTS, where all the sets are handed to you. On the Live server, if it’s not getting worn, it’s being deconstructed immediately. And I am amazed that there isn’t an in game help page on what each buff/debuff actually does which might allow you to assess the benefits of one set over another.

    Also, ZOS need to seriously look at doing something for stam builds, because at the moment they’re all wearing Relequen’s and sporting the same 5 backbar skills, none of which is class specific.

  • MaleAmazon
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    Yes - I wish more sets like these were introduced
    Sure.

    Sidenote: Sunderflame is still good IMO. Not 'top DPS when compared to golded out trial gear' good, but good. They upped the flame damage by a lot.
  • Dogzey
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    MaleAmazon wrote: »
    Sure.

    Sidenote: Sunderflame is still good IMO. Not 'top DPS when compared to golded out trial gear' good, but good. They upped the flame damage by a lot.

    Yeah that’s true. When you want to be hitting as high as you can though you’ll go with the meta. Would just be nice if they were relevant again add a bit more of a choice.

    PS4 EU [810CP] - (Clairvoyance)

    PvE High Elf Mag DK - Irelia Dragneel (Voice of Reason) (Dro-m'Athra Destroyer)
    PvE Orc Stam DK - Minato Uzamaki
    PvE Breton Templar - Ashura Namikaze (Voice of Reason)
    PvE Altmer Magcro - Zeref Dragneel
    PvE Orc Stamcro - Saphira Dragonsbane (Dro-m'Athra Destroyer)
    PvE Orc Stam Sorc - Laxus Dreyar
    PvE Imperial DK Tank- Tartarus the Abyss
    PvE Dumner Magblade - Apex the Destroyer (Flawless Conqueror)
    PvE/PVP Orc Stamblade - IIzuna Uchiha
    PvE Altmer Warden Healer - Lady Netch

    PVP Dumner Mag DK - Lady Embers

    Clears
    vAS HM
    vMoL HM
    vHoF HM
    vCR +1
    vSS
    Craglorns HM
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