Dedicated crafter (non main) - yes or not?

Edelner

What do you think about dedicated crafter (non main)? What are pros and cons?

VaranisArano

I think its worth it to have a dedicated crafter, and in my case, its my main. There's enough skills points to do it all.

Reasons why:
A. Conveience. Its a lot easier to be able to craft everything on one character, especially if you don't have addons to track your research progress

B. Motif knowledge increases the chance of Master Writs dropping from max level crafting writs, and unless you want to duplicate motif knowledge, its much cheaper to do it on one character


YMMV, but those are why I have one main crafter. My other alts can craft max level writs, but they don't have the research or motif knowledge that my main does because I can't be bothered to duplicate that effort.

xpixelatedtkox

Yes

VaranisArano wrote: »

I thibk its worth it to ha e a dedicated crafter, and in my case, its my main. There's enough skills points to do it all.

Reasons why:
A. Conveience. Its a lot easier to be able to craft everything on one character, especially if you don't have addons to track your research progress

B. Motif knowledge increases the chance of Master Writs dropping from max level crafting writs, and unless you want to duplicate motif knowledge, its much cheaper to do it on one character


YMMV, but those are why I have one main crafter. My other alts can craft max level writs, but they don't have the research or motif knowledge that my main does because I can't be bothered to duplicate that effort.

Basically what this guy said. All my recipes/motifs go to my crafter. If crafter already knows it, then it's sold.

Kalik_Gold

No

My main is my dedicated crafter. I don’t see why you couldn’t do the same on an Alt (non main), just remember to keep 3 in medicinal use in Alchemy on your main.

If your are into achievements though crafting does earn some, and your main won’t have them.

DTStormfox

Yes

Since you will have all traits, motifs and skills unlocked on one character.
You do not have to switch characters all the time to craft different types of gear and consumables.

It is, imo, most time-efficient.

Asardes

No

I like having all achievements on my main character, so he also learns all recipes, motifs and blueprints. He has 414 skill points (total available is 430 but he's only AR 34) so there's plenty around to spec every combat ability that I need for multiple PvP & PvE builds. The other characters only do the traits, cheap recipes, blueprints & motifs that aren't worth selling in guild stores (MM < 1K gold).

From my extensive experience duplicating more expensive motif knowledge is not worth it. The drop rate for master writs on a 9 trait crafters with most motifs learned - 70 out of 75 - and one who only has 15-18 out of 75 is not that different. Learning all motifs on a character takes a huge amount of time and 10-15M gold, so I'll have to play forever to have a return on that kind of investment.

SipofMaim

Yes

Worth.

xpixelatedtkox

Yes

Kalik_Gold wrote: »

My main is my dedicated crafter. I don’t see why you couldn’t do the same on an Alt (non main), just remember to keep 3 in medicinal use in Alchemy on your main.

If your are into achievements though crafting does earn some, and your main won’t have them.

I admit, all the achievements on one would be nice. I just don't have the patience

eklhaftb16_ESO

Yes

You want provisioning and alchemy on all characters anyway, to benefit from the passives. And since some furniture designs require multiple crafting professions, it's best to have them all on one character.

Tip: make your crafter an Imperial to get Imperial motif for free.

xpixelatedtkox

Yes

eklhaftb16_ESO wrote: »

You want provisioning and alchemy on all characters anyway, to benefit from the passives. And since some furniture designs require multiple crafting professions, it's best to have them all on one character.

Tip: make your crafter an Imperial to get Imperial motif for free.

Would that still work if I use a race change token??

Michae

No

I like to have everything on my main so I levelled crafting on that toon. It's a matter of convenience, I just craft what I need and I mostly use it on this character so I don't have to bank everything and relog. The other toons exist mainly for crafting writs and rp. And maybe for occasional Battlegrounds or Random Normal.

redlink1979

No

I do everything with my main char. Crafting, farming, Pve n Pvp.

Morgul667

No

I do it on my main
And ive developped my second and third main also so i dont have to change too s for crafting

FierceSam

Yes

If you don’t have ESO+ and the extra storage and endless crafting bag it’s almost impossible to have a regular character who also does crafting.

The sheer number of different ingredients and materials dwarfs the bag space you have. Add in the 50 or so style stones you might need to do master writs and you’re totally screwed.

I like to do all the research on all my characters, but on a practical level crafting is an endgame pursuit for a non-main character if you don’t have ESO+

Commancho

No

Dedicated crafter should be your main. There is more skill points than you can spend in this game. I suggest stacking achievements also on your main. You will thank me later.

Asardes

No

FierceSam wrote: »

If you don’t have ESO+ and the extra storage and endless crafting bag it’s almost impossible to have a regular character who also does crafting.

The way I did it before I got ESO+ was to keep all the gear on storage alts, a few stacks of max tier materials, runes, solvents and plants in bank. I did most crafting on my first character but I also had 3 more as crafters with a few stacks of rubedite, ruby ash, ancestor silk and rubedo leather on each. It worked OK for a while but the time it took to switch and the number of storage character I needed was pretty annoying. I had 1:2 or more, so basically for every active character I had to keep 2 as storage with 200/200 full almost all the time. After I subscribed I was able to activate and play a lot more character, and now I only have 2:1, so 1 auxiliary character for every 2 active ones and they only have 160-180/200 slots filled. I keep some slots free so I can do crafting writs on all, and that wasn't possible with the encumbrance issue.

VaranisArano

xpixelatedtkox wrote: »

eklhaftb16_ESO wrote: »

You want provisioning and alchemy on all characters anyway, to benefit from the passives. And since some furniture designs require multiple crafting professions, it's best to have them all on one character.

Tip: make your crafter an Imperial to get Imperial motif for free.

Would that still work if I use a race change token??

Race change tokens don't change your original racial motif.

So if you have an Imperial and change race, you will still know the Imperial motif, but not vice versa.

https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/35417/~/why-cant-i-craft-in-the-style-of-my-new-race-after-changing-it-with-a-race

Blackleopardex

Is it worth to have dedicated crafter (non main)?

Nice poll

xpixelatedtkox

Yes

VaranisArano wrote: »

xpixelatedtkox wrote: »

eklhaftb16_ESO wrote: »

You want provisioning and alchemy on all characters anyway, to benefit from the passives. And since some furniture designs require multiple crafting professions, it's best to have them all on one character.

Tip: make your crafter an Imperial to get Imperial motif for free.

Would that still work if I use a race change token??

Race change tokens don't change your original racial motif.

So if you have an Imperial and change race, you will still know the Imperial motif, but not vice versa.

https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/35417/~/why-cant-i-craft-in-the-style-of-my-new-race-after-changing-it-with-a-race

Bummer. Thanks for the info though.

mague

Is it worth to have dedicated crafter (non main)?

I do it on main.

Pro dedicated would be: Lots of bag space for surveys and maybe a harvest friendly build.

Tryxus

Yes

I have a main and a dedicated crafter (which doubles are a mule) Both are Grand Master Crafters

Sylvermynx

VaranisArano wrote: »

I think its worth it to have a dedicated crafter, and in my case, its my main. There's enough skills points to do it all.

Reasons why:
A. Conveience. Its a lot easier to be able to craft everything on one character, especially if you don't have addons to track your research progress

B. Motif knowledge increases the chance of Master Writs dropping from max level crafting writs, and unless you want to duplicate motif knowledge, its much cheaper to do it on one character


YMMV, but those are why I have one main crafter. My other alts can craft max level writs, but they don't have the research or motif knowledge that my main does because I can't be bothered to duplicate that effort.

This.

ayu_fever

Yes

my main gal is my master crafter, but for years she was my only character so it HAD TO be her.

now i have more toons but i still have her as my main gal and my crafter to help others

Kagukan

No

I only have 1 character and that character does everything.

Nemesis7884

No

i would recommend making your main also your crafter - it has many benefits...you will have most skill points on your main anyway...and then you dont have to switch constantly for doing writs, farming/learning motifs, crafting etc...my main has all crafting lines maxed out and i have tons of skill points left...

ghastley

Is it worth to have dedicated crafter (non main)?

There needs to be a main crafter that gets all the new motifs coming in, but there's also no reason not to let all your characters do some. There are enough skill points that you don't have trade crafting skills against combat ones. Any character can do both. I like all my characters to be able to make their own potions, food, etc. so they can replace what they use as they go.

In my case, once I had a crafter at 9/9 traits, I let another character start on the Nirn line. All of the others are at 8/9, as that doesn't cost any Nirncrux, and junk to research floods in whether you chase it or not. Since they all do writs for the gold, the little extra time for research at each station isn't significant.

PrimusNephilim

Yes

My main will change from time to time depending on what I'm doing or just to have a change of pace, but when I first started, my first toon was my only main, so as I changed up toons, I still crafted with the first toon, now able to craft 9/9 traits.

so no, your main doesn't have to be your crafter. As I pick up recipes, motifs or crafting, they go into the bank so my crafter can open them.

Dusk_Coven

No

TL;DR early game it looks like a great idea but late game it means you have to skyshard hunt more on your crafter.

In the early game, you can spread out the points onto alts.
If you adventure a lot you will have a stupid amount of skill points on your main and you can easily fit all your crafting onto that toon.
Your main is also likely to hit CP160 first, meaning if you also have your blacksmithing, clothing, jewelry, and woodworking at max crafting level, all your gathering nodes will be top-tier instead of 50/50 split between your toon level and your crafting level.

So, something you can do is start your trait research on your main and top up their points later when they have an excess of points.
Meanwhile, on various alts, max your alchemy, enchanting, provisioning, and other crafts.
This also means you might have to sell a lot of master writs you can't use because you don't have the motif/research combination required. But jewelry requires fewer points, less research, and blue writs use iridium which you can farm so it's "free" -- so vouchers shouldn't be a problem.

zaria

No

Depend on play style I guess, if your main do all the quests and dungeons you get more skill points than you can use.
if so use you main as primary crafter, he has probably picked up most of the motifs, blueprints and receipts anyway.

This will usually be your first character, so keep him as main crafter. Has crafting on some of the others but not fully, alchemy is always useful.

idk

VaranisArano wrote: »

I think its worth it to have a dedicated crafter, and in my case, its my main. There's enough skills points to do it all.

Reasons why:
A. Conveience. Its a lot easier to be able to craft everything on one character, especially if you don't have addons to track your research progress

B. Motif knowledge increases the chance of Master Writs dropping from max level crafting writs, and unless you want to duplicate motif knowledge, its much cheaper to do it on one character


YMMV, but those are why I have one main crafter. My other alts can craft max level writs, but they don't have the research or motif knowledge that my main does because I can't be bothered to duplicate that effort.

This.

Though I cannot answer the poll as the replies are muddled. Two yeses, one for non-main and one is just yes.

Dojohoda

No

For Achievements:

Your dedicated crafter, the character that learns all of the motifs and everything else related to crafting, should be your main character.
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For Top Level Material, Potion and Glyph Crafting, Better Writ Rewards:

All of your characters should get level 50 in all of the crafts, but not necessarily learn all of the traits. All characters need to be able to craft its own level for potions.
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If Important to you-For Improved Master Writ Drop:

In addition to getting level 50 in all of the crafts, all characters should learn the vanilla motifs as well as the easiest to obtain motifs. I do not know the motif-knowledge threshold for master writ drop, but it is obtainable with some effort.