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Do you prefer CP pvp or NON CP pvp?
Mariusghost84
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I havent got around to doing PVP in Cyrodil yet and PVP for me is basically Battlegrounds. I hate the fact that most builds on youtube focus on CP pvp and i have trouble finding non CP builds. Battlegrounds is all i know and i like the idea of a quick 15 min fight, with a definitive ending - win og lose.
Im wondering if cyrodil is as much fun and if im maybe missing out on something? I would love to get into Cyrodil but part of me feels like its kinda chaotic and overwhelming. What do you guys enjoy the most?
Im wondering if cyrodil is as much fun and if im maybe missing out on something? I would love to get into Cyrodil but part of me feels like its kinda chaotic and overwhelming. What do you guys enjoy the most?
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Casul✭✭✭✭✭
✭I prefer CP because I can respond to damage better as proc sets and crit aren't as strong.PvP needs more love.4 -
Commancho✭✭✭✭✭Non cp. More balanced and you can play PVE and pvp effectively after swapping gear and few abilities.16 -
Jurand80✭✭✭✭in non cp people die fast. in cp you end up with duels that last forever.
non cp cyro is just a zerg fest. i'd stick to bg if you are looking for non cp fun. at least the teams are balanced and you won't get overrun. plus you'll get to experience pvp and not pvd.1 -
Sahidom✭✭✭✭The no-CP campaigns.
@Commancho is right. Playing in a no-CP campaign is more balanced. You see more on how your skills function without the padding from champion points. Depending on your gear and build setup, you could consider a trait other than impenetrable.
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agegarton✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Non-Cp for me. I find I spend less time chasing players around trees wondering why I’m not making a dent in their health pool.2 -
Emma_Overload✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭CP because damage shields are terribly gimped in No-CP.#CAREBEARMASTERRACE4 -
Cirantille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Well non-Cp because I am at 258 CP
So, it will not be that effective if I go fight with CP 810s
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BaiterOfZergs✭✭✭✭✭Doesn’t really make a difference to me but I’d prefer the devs remove cp.Edited by BaiterOfZergs on September 30, 2019 8:47AMZerg of House Smallscale, First of his name, wielder of Volendrung, battleground hero, Cyrodiil butcher, the swifft footed, OG of the Templars and first pvpers, defender of scrolls and baiter of zergs.2 -
NeillMcAttack✭✭✭✭✭
✭How many CP do you have OP?
It is much easier to learn how to PvP in CP PvP than no-CP. In no-CP as soon as I hit the wrong skill, pot doesn’t go off, or my bar doesn’t switch it’s extremely difficult to recover. In CP PvP I could nearly go for a cigarette break mid fight and come back and continue at my own convenience.
So if you have over 600 CP or there about, you will learn how to react in fights and in duels easier in a CP enabled environment.PC EU - NoCP PvP, is real PvPTiidehunter Nord StamDK EP PvP MainLegion Commander Tresdin Stamplar DC PvE MainSephirith Altmer MagPlar EP Gondar the Bounty Hunter Khajiit StamBlade DCThe Dirge Redguard StamNecro EP Disruptor Stormcrafter Nord StamSorc ADLone Druid Bosmer Stam Warden EP Necro-Phos Argonian MagBlade AD@ McAttack in gamePlayed since beta, and then on console at release, until the game became unplayable on console.2 -
probabkyravi✭✭✭Non-CP...
Blessed passive is overpowered in CP and fights are endless, its less skill and tactics based gameplay there.
Non-CP is much more fluid, duels are fast and taking a Keep involves more dynamics.
Population is similar to CP, don't let them tell you its dead.4 -
Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭CP because with 280 ping you literally just explode in no CP. CP also let’s you push builds a bit further. Sustain is obviously way better so you can kite better. People still die super easily. That said I’m also completely fine playing no CP. Sometimes I do it just for a different feel and play style.Edited by Vapirko on September 30, 2019 10:24AM2 -
Grianasteri✭✭✭✭✭
✭I prefer non cp, because I can switch my pve characters into pvp with far more easy, just switch out skills/sets etc.2 -
BNOC✭✭✭✭✭No-CP.
Cyrodil is not PvP, Cyrodil for 99% of the people there is PvE; carry this, cap that, teleport here, siege that.
Unless you're strong enough to sit at the back of 20-40 guys and pull them off 1 by 1 without them screeching for help, or you don't care about contributing and are quite happy beating players you see 24v1 whilst doing the 4 things above, then you'll hate it.
You'll probably get a taste of these types of player in BG's - They'll be the ones that are capping flags, will run away without finishing the cap when you get near and will go cap whatever next one has no PvP at it.
They'll end the game with 30k damage done and a score like 0-15-0.vMSA - Magplar - Xbox EU - 15/11/16
578,000 - 36 Minutes 58 Seconds (Top 2 World?)
vMSA - Magplar - Xbox NA
569,000 - 40 minutes (350CP, Non optimised runs)0 -
x48rph✭✭✭✭✭
✭Both. It depends on the character and build. Some I prefer more for CP, others for No CP. CP can make up for doing non meta stuff, such as my bosmer magden who's sustain isn't nearly as good in No CP.0 -
Iskiab✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭CP pvp. They’ve continually nerfed defense in the game, it’s getting ridiculous. I would have said no-CP pvp a couple patches ago.
I started early enough that I’m max CPs. IDK what I would have done if I wasn’t, probably just stopped playing the game.Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
Havoc Warhammer - Alair
LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
Condemned and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten1 -
StarOfElyon✭✭✭✭✭
✭I usually play in BG (no CP). It's just quicker.
The downside is that my magplar has to be built like a hybrid because everyone is trying to stun, fear, and root all the time. My stamina bar is thicc.0 -
Xologamer✭✭✭✭cp pvp
u can customize ur charactor more than i no cp and its more convinent to get ur sustain jsut from cps than using sets and than doing no dmg in no cp...0 -
MattT1988✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I hate PvP in this game and only go in to get Vigor, warhorn etc. So I’ll vote non-CP as It’s less of a pain in the arse to set up for it without having change my CP from a PvE set up.Edited by MattT1988 on September 30, 2019 12:59PM1 -
redlink1979✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭CP, all the way. Any day."Sweet Mother, sweet Mother, send your child unto me, for the sins of the unworthy must be baptized in blood and fear"- Sons of the Night Mother [PS5][EU] 2165 CP
- Daggerfall's Mightiest [PS5][NA] 1910 CP
- SweetTrolls [PC][EU] 1950 CP
- Bacon Rats [PC][NA] 1850 CP
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Skarbrand666✭✭✭Depends on what you like.
Do you like being zerged down and being next to useless alone?
Then no-cp is for you!
Do you like not even seeing any enemies, and immediately crashing to the login screen after leaving your gates?
Then CP is for you!
Really though, i prefer CP, because while there's still broken stuff it's SLIGHTLY, SLIGHTLY less broken than no-cp0 -
Odovacar✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I enjoy both really...BG's is fast paced and pretty competitive. I really love playing all modes but team DM is for obvious reasons my favorite.
Nothing wrong imo for CP campaign kaal either ...aside from the annoying uber tank meta (doesn't really hurt my feelings rather than it takes more of our time) but our group still can wear and burn most of them down when need be.
If I had to make a choice between the two I'd say BG's for sure though.
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Dreyloch✭✭✭✭✭I've played both and still kinda prefer CP. Only because the sustain is better. Damage is better in terms of time to kill in non-CP, but that's overall. That's the same for everyone. Sustain on the other hand, makes CP a better choice for me. I tend to spam some skills here and there and like to have that little bit of leeway instead of having to wear a pure sustain set, reducing my damage output."The fear of Death, is often worse than death itself"0 -
Kalik_Gold✭✭✭✭✭
✭CP - I don't want my character to feel slightly different when I PvP which happens now in Battlegrounds.Main: (PvP & PvE)PS5/NA - Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar - Daggerfall Covenant • 1550+ Champion
Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar, the Vestige
PvP:
Aurik Siet'ka a Redguard Necromancer
Cacique the Sage of Ius a Redguard Warden
Jux Blackheart a Redguard Nightblade
Goliath of Hammerfell a Redguard Dragonknight
Kaotik Von Dae'mon a Redguard* Sorcerer
PvP: (Specialty)
Tyrus Septim an Imperial Lycan Sorcerer
Tsar af-Bomba a Redguard Vampiric Nightblade
Movárth Piquine a Nord Vampiric Necromancer
Uri Ice-Heart the Twin a Nord Vampiric Warden
PvE:
Cinan Tharn an Imperial Dragonknight
Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar an Imperial Dragonknight
Herzog Zwei the Genesis an Akavari* Templar
Tav'i at-Shinji a Redguard** Warden
Lucky Hunch the Gambler - a Redguard Nightblade
Leveling...
Zenovia at-Tura a Redguard** Sorcerer
Yesi af-Kalik a Redguard Templar
Voa a Priest of Sep a Redguard* Necromancer
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Passives of another race used. (RP)
*Breton
**Imperial
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Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.
Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.
Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...
Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.
Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.
The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.
The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.
Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.
Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)
And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.
After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.
After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...
Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.
Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.
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