Gank builds (for gankers)

ThePhantomThorn

Hey everyone
Disclaimer: this post is for gankers. Don’t come here to give a salty rant cuz as hilarious as it would be, it’s not the point of this

That aside, I would like a few people to share some gank builds and styles and to theorycraft new ones as a community, cuz i think the gank community is very... desolate.

So rn the current gank meta (as far as I know) is:
Stam - swamp raider/automaton + Spriggans + kena + kraghs
Mag - war maiden + spinners + balorghs

I really want to see more variety in gank builds and more interesting combos than just sniping and ele wep into soul harvest

Edit : I don’t know why there are 2 posts
Maybe I clicked 2wice or something

Metemsycosis

Heavy attacks

Udrath

For magblade no-cp/battleground:
Use mage mundas and slot inner light front bar.

5-1-1
1 Nerien'eth or Balrogh or 1 Llambris 1 Infernal Guardian or Whatever monster set
5 Caluaarion
5 Spinners with sharpened staff w/ fight or lightning enchant.

Combo(s):
Elemental weapon>Light Attack>Lotus Fan>Fear>Soul Harvest. ( Nerien'eth will hit most of the time cause of fear along with Caluuarion. )

Concealed weapon>(Caluuarion)>soul harvest.

Elemental weapon>Light attack>Soul harvest works too.

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Not really a gank set but I've seen it take nearly 70% hp of 20k hp squishy players in the first shot. Just remember it has a 2 second cooldown and 20% chance to proc. Force pulse gives it a nice chance to proc. Could use impale somewhere in there so find a spot for it on your bar just in case and use it when needed.
5-1-1
1 Illambris
1 Domihaus or 1 Infernal Guardian
5 Torug Pact
5 Way of Fire with infused staff w/ fire or lightning enchant.

Combo:
Mark>Force Pulse>Light attack>elemental weapon>Cloak>Force Pulse>Light attack>elemental weapon>impale if possible.

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After testing a lot of stuff, my opinion is that caluuarion is the most efficient magblade gank build for battlegrounds and no-cp if you want super fast results. But it comes down to how you define what you consider a gank. I see it as killing someone within the duration of a fear or before they know what is happening. Three seconds or less.

susmitds

New moon would replace Automaton/Swamp Raider next patch.

Also Caluurion is one of the next magicka ganking set if not the absolute best.

ThePhantomThorn

Metemsycosis wrote: »

Heavy attacks

Care to elaborate?

Veinblood1965

Jabs

ThePhantomThorn

Veinblood1965 wrote: »

Jabs

Lol kills u quick enough 😂

ThePhantomThorn

Any ideas for a stamina gank spec? Dot builds would be interesting or a proc set build
Something like vicecannon + sheer venom or vipers sting with vele

ThePhantomThorn

Udrath wrote: »

For magblade no-cp/battleground:
Use mage mundas and slot inner light front bar.

5-1-1
1 Nerien'eth or Balrogh or 1 Llambris 1 Infernal Guardian or Whatever monster set
5 Caluaarion
5 Spinners with sharpened staff w/ fight or lightning enchant.

Combo(s):
Elemental weapon>Light Attack>Lotus Fan>Fear>Soul Harvest. ( Nerien'eth will hit most of the time cause of fear along with Caluuarion. )

Concealed weapon>(Caluuarion)>soul harvest.

Elemental weapon>Light attack>Soul harvest works too.

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Not really a gank set but I've seen it take nearly 70% hp of 20k hp squishy players in the first shot. Just remember it has a 2 second cooldown and 20% chance to proc. Force pulse gives it a nice chance to proc. Could use impale somewhere in there so find a spot for it on your bar just in case and use it when needed.
5-1-1
1 Illambris
1 Domihaus or 1 Infernal Guardian
5 Torug Pact
5 Way of Fire with infused staff w/ fire or lightning enchant.

Combo:
Mark>Force Pulse>Light attack>elemental weapon>Cloak>Force Pulse>Light attack>elemental weapon>impale if possible.

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After testing a lot of stuff, my opinion is that caluuarion is the most efficient magblade gank build for battlegrounds and no-cp if you want super fast results. But it comes down to how you define what you consider a gank. I see it as killing someone within the duration of a fear or before they know what is happening. Three seconds or less.

Few questions:
Is torags good at all? I know you have listed it but how does ut compare to spinners or war maiden? I’ve seen Kristopher eso use it but he isn’t exactly a ganker
Do u use arcane or infused jewels
Ty

Udrath

Torug is kind of an older set a lot people used before Elswyer. It's not bad but max magicka is said to be better. Arcane is good enough unless you want infused spell reduction, magicka recovery, potion reduction, etc.

cmvet

ThePhantomThorn wrote: »

Any ideas for a stamina gank spec? Dot builds would be interesting or a proc set build
Something like vicecannon + sheer venom or vipers sting with vele

So I'm currently running an insane dot build, it is kinda ridiculous. I need to put a build vid up on it. If sloads was working in PVP I would use that, however, it is not so I got creative.

Base set is Sheer venom (my main gripe is the dot tick pulls you out of stealth, but will finally be fixed next patch apparently)Vicecanon also pulls you out of stealth when the dot ticks and it runs too long to have that happen. Might be better next patch..
Then I run 3 piece Agility and 2 piece Stormfist.
Weapons I the Blackrose prison Bow, and Maelstrom 2h Axe.

I use Double dot poisons on Bow and I slot Dawnbreaker as ulti.

Skills I use that apply/proc a dot are....
1) crit charge (procs maelstrom 2h dot)
2)carve
3) light attack for 2h axe bleed
4)Leathal arrow (applies poison status effect which drops a dot based off your stats)
5)Draining shot (applies brp bow dot)
6)poison inject (applies its dot and procs sheer venom dot)
7)soul trap (nice physical dot)
8)dawnbreaker.

All those skills will also proc stormfist all the damn time which applies it's own dot. (If sloads worked I would run that over agility and stormfist).

So a player could have 12 dots ticking on them at 1 go. Have fun using your magicka cleansing that. Easy to reapply.

Templars are a pain right now because those sweeps are so damn quick it's hard to escape if they catch you, so you may need to slot fear if you have an issue getting away.

Gzorbditw

These are the two i run for No-CP

Magblade:
used to be impossible to stop but can be survived by good players due to cast time on incap

Slimecraw/Caluurion/Spinner's Nirnhoned inferno staff.All divine im using arcane on rings but could go infused spell damage.
If you time it right you can get the light attack and concealed from cloak to both crit. Will destroy most players in nocp, templars and high hp dk's sometimes a struggle.

Few clips (some from CP but same build):
https://www.twitch.tv/gzordbitw/clip/CleverDifferentTubersBatChest
https://www.twitch.tv/gzordbitw/clip/ObliqueDoubtfulMarjoramAliens
https://www.twitch.tv/gzordbitw/clip/DeadAssiduousRatBudBlast (NO-CP)

Stamblade:
Works great on all targets, bit more effort required as it relies on ultimate being recharged between each kill. Stacking massive +wep damage bonuses' to 2H abilites and using Dizzy swing from cloak into Onslaught.

Balorgh/Automaton/Sword singer Nirnhoned 2H mace with weapon damage enchant, infused weapon damage jewelry. All divine if possible.

First clip was scuffed but still did silly damage, these clips are in No-Cp:
https://www.twitch.tv/gzordbitw/clip/ExuberantCaringKoupreyStoneLightning
https://www.twitch.tv/gzordbitw/clip/ArtsyCooperativeMoonRuleFive

ThePhantomThorn

Gzorbditw wrote: »

These are the two i run for No-CP

Magblade:
used to be impossible to stop but can be survived by good players due to cast time on incap

Slimecraw/Caluurion/Spinner's Nirnhoned inferno staff.All divine im using arcane on rings but could go infused spell damage.
If you time it right you can get the light attack and concealed from cloak to both crit. Will destroy most players in nocp, templars and high hp dk's sometimes a struggle.

Few clips (some from CP but same build):
https://www.twitch.tv/gzordbitw/clip/CleverDifferentTubersBatChest
https://www.twitch.tv/gzordbitw/clip/ObliqueDoubtfulMarjoramAliens
https://www.twitch.tv/gzordbitw/clip/DeadAssiduousRatBudBlast (NO-CP)

Stamblade:
Works great on all targets, bit more effort required as it relies on ultimate being recharged between each kill. Stacking massive +wep damage bonuses' to 2H abilites and using Dizzy swing from cloak into Onslaught.

Balorgh/Automaton/Sword singer Nirnhoned 2H mace with weapon damage enchant, infused weapon damage jewelry. All divine if possible.

First clip was scuffed but still did silly damage, these clips are in No-Cp:
https://www.twitch.tv/gzordbitw/clip/ExuberantCaringKoupreyStoneLightning
https://www.twitch.tv/gzordbitw/clip/ArtsyCooperativeMoonRuleFive

Unfortunately the onslaught gank sucks now cuz of no refund 😭

Iskiab

ThePhantomThorn wrote: »

Gzorbditw wrote: »

These are the two i run for No-CP

Magblade:
used to be impossible to stop but can be survived by good players due to cast time on incap

Slimecraw/Caluurion/Spinner's Nirnhoned inferno staff.All divine im using arcane on rings but could go infused spell damage.
If you time it right you can get the light attack and concealed from cloak to both crit. Will destroy most players in nocp, templars and high hp dk's sometimes a struggle.

Few clips (some from CP but same build):
https://www.twitch.tv/gzordbitw/clip/CleverDifferentTubersBatChest
https://www.twitch.tv/gzordbitw/clip/ObliqueDoubtfulMarjoramAliens
https://www.twitch.tv/gzordbitw/clip/DeadAssiduousRatBudBlast (NO-CP)

Stamblade:
Works great on all targets, bit more effort required as it relies on ultimate being recharged between each kill. Stacking massive +wep damage bonuses' to 2H abilites and using Dizzy swing from cloak into Onslaught.

Balorgh/Automaton/Sword singer Nirnhoned 2H mace with weapon damage enchant, infused weapon damage jewelry. All divine if possible.

First clip was scuffed but still did silly damage, these clips are in No-Cp:
https://www.twitch.tv/gzordbitw/clip/ExuberantCaringKoupreyStoneLightning
https://www.twitch.tv/gzordbitw/clip/ArtsyCooperativeMoonRuleFive

Unfortunately the onslaught gank sucks now cuz of no refund 😭

Onslaught’s better than ever. It lets you tank your penetration and focus solely on tooltip damage. Highest I’ve seen is 18k in CP.

I’ve been messing around with a gank build but am not the best. I want something for CP pvp able to take down 30k targets.

I’ve been debating between sets using Onslaught and the shadow mundus with either:

Vicious death, shalk exo skeleton and balorgs

Vicious death, balorgs and caluurion.

Which do you think is better? Dumb question, how do you build ultimate as a ganker? Another question... is there a handy weapon set I can use on my off bar? Last question, is it possible to build up with shalk and then switch sets in cloak when you’re out of combat, any tricks to it?

ThePhantomThorn

Iskiab wrote: »

ThePhantomThorn wrote: »

Gzorbditw wrote: »

These are the two i run for No-CP

Magblade:
used to be impossible to stop but can be survived by good players due to cast time on incap

Slimecraw/Caluurion/Spinner's Nirnhoned inferno staff.All divine im using arcane on rings but could go infused spell damage.
If you time it right you can get the light attack and concealed from cloak to both crit. Will destroy most players in nocp, templars and high hp dk's sometimes a struggle.

Few clips (some from CP but same build):
https://www.twitch.tv/gzordbitw/clip/CleverDifferentTubersBatChest
https://www.twitch.tv/gzordbitw/clip/ObliqueDoubtfulMarjoramAliens
https://www.twitch.tv/gzordbitw/clip/DeadAssiduousRatBudBlast (NO-CP)

Stamblade:
Works great on all targets, bit more effort required as it relies on ultimate being recharged between each kill. Stacking massive +wep damage bonuses' to 2H abilites and using Dizzy swing from cloak into Onslaught.

Balorgh/Automaton/Sword singer Nirnhoned 2H mace with weapon damage enchant, infused weapon damage jewelry. All divine if possible.

First clip was scuffed but still did silly damage, these clips are in No-Cp:
https://www.twitch.tv/gzordbitw/clip/ExuberantCaringKoupreyStoneLightning
https://www.twitch.tv/gzordbitw/clip/ArtsyCooperativeMoonRuleFive

Unfortunately the onslaught gank sucks now cuz of no refund 😭

Onslaught’s better than ever. It lets you tank your penetration and focus solely on tooltip damage. Highest I’ve seen is 18k in CP.

I’ve been messing around with a gank build but am not the best. I want something for CP pvp able to take down 30k targets.

I’ve been debating between sets using Onslaught and the shadow mundus with either:

Vicious death, shalk exo skeleton and balorgs

Vicious death, balorgs and caluurion.

Which do you think is better? Dumb question, how do you build ultimate as a ganker? Another question... is there a handy weapon set I can use on my off bar? Last question, is it possible to build up with shalk and then switch sets in cloak when you’re out of combat, any tricks to it?

It’s not ideal but the nb potion passive is good for getting ult out of combat, but it’s not exactly fast. (20 per pot with a 40 sec cool down)
Obviously the assault passive gives u 20 ult per kill aswell
Out of the 2 I’d say the caluurion setup
shalk would have less damage and the heroism is only while in combat. But if u light attacked some1 in a Zerg and hid for a bit that would gem ult there. Then u could swap it out, but combat is weird so best to try it in game

ThePhantomThorn

So tried out a new build
Range to melee
Swamp raider (will change 2 new moon next patch)
Spriggans
Velidreth
Snipe - ambush - incap
Pretty basic and I think it’s been around for a while but it’s very fun. The only issue is that after the ambush ( they are usually around 40 - 30 % hp ) a lot of players spam dodge making me miss the incap. Then always seem to have a dawnbreaker or dragon leap up

Any idea on how to land the incap better?

ThePhantomThorn

cmvet wrote: »

ThePhantomThorn wrote: »

Any ideas for a stamina gank spec? Dot builds would be interesting or a proc set build
Something like vicecannon + sheer venom or vipers sting with vele

So I'm currently running an insane dot build, it is kinda ridiculous. I need to put a build vid up on it. If sloads was working in PVP I would use that, however, it is not so I got creative.

Base set is Sheer venom (my main gripe is the dot tick pulls you out of stealth, but will finally be fixed next patch apparently)Vicecanon also pulls you out of stealth when the dot ticks and it runs too long to have that happen. Might be better next patch..
Then I run 3 piece Agility and 2 piece Stormfist.
Weapons I the Blackrose prison Bow, and Maelstrom 2h Axe.

I use Double dot poisons on Bow and I slot Dawnbreaker as ulti.

Skills I use that apply/proc a dot are....
1) crit charge (procs maelstrom 2h dot)
2)carve
3) light attack for 2h axe bleed
4)Leathal arrow (applies poison status effect which drops a dot based off your stats)
5)Draining shot (applies brp bow dot)
6)poison inject (applies its dot and procs sheer venom dot)
7)soul trap (nice physical dot)
8)dawnbreaker.

All those skills will also proc stormfist all the damn time which applies it's own dot. (If sloads worked I would run that over agility and stormfist).

So a player could have 12 dots ticking on them at 1 go. Have fun using your magicka cleansing that. Easy to reapply.

Templars are a pain right now because those sweeps are so damn quick it's hard to escape if they catch you, so you may need to slot fear if you have an issue getting away.

This...
Looks....
AWESOME
tho why stormfist over valkyn?

Side note: this is the exact reason I created this discussion. To get awesome builds out there

tsaescishoeshiner

For a unique non-stealth, non-stun no-CP gank build, I use stam warden. Automaton, Spriggan's, and 2 Weapon Damage 1-piece monster sets

Front bar is ALL Animal Companions skills (including bear) and Snipe
Use Crushing Weapon from the backbar, hold the light attack until after Snipe, then light attack and use Cutting Dive. It's pretty gross. Can slot Scattershot instead of Cutting Dive for a closer-range kill

Combo can nuke someone all at once, tho might take 2 birds or a bear punch or soul trap pressure. Is even better from sneak : p

Bear punch is secretly a great execute in battlegrounds because it has weird timing that is hard to predict

Metemsycosis

ThePhantomThorn wrote: »

Metemsycosis wrote: »

Heavy attacks

Care to elaborate?

You get a huge bonus from cp
And there are sets that buff heavy attacks.

ThePhantomThorn wrote: »

So tried out a new build
Range to melee
Swamp raider (will change 2 new moon next patch)
Spriggans
Velidreth
Snipe - ambush - incap
Pretty basic and I think it’s been around for a while but it’s very fun. The only issue is that after the ambush ( they are usually around 40 - 30 % hp ) a lot of players spam dodge making me miss the incap. Then always seem to have a dawnbreaker or dragon leap up

Any idea on how to land the incap better?

Show a second of patience. If you have the intuition someone will dodge wait for them to come out and cc or just attack then.

Ucarious

Stamina critblade(GANK ONLY)

You are literally a one gank wonder so using shade and positioning is essential.

Gotta use the kitty cat first of all for the crit damage racial.

Full medium slimecraw and automaton
Jewelry infused weapon damage
Main bar and jewelry: hunding
Back bar weapon: caustic arrow

Mundus is shadow

Food is artaeum

ThePhantomThorn

Metemsycosis wrote: »

ThePhantomThorn wrote: »

Metemsycosis wrote: »

Heavy attacks

Care to elaborate?

You get a huge bonus from cp
And there are sets that buff heavy attacks.

ThePhantomThorn wrote: »

So tried out a new build
Range to melee
Swamp raider (will change 2 new moon next patch)
Spriggans
Velidreth
Snipe - ambush - incap
Pretty basic and I think it’s been around for a while but it’s very fun. The only issue is that after the ambush ( they are usually around 40 - 30 % hp ) a lot of players spam dodge making me miss the incap. Then always seem to have a dawnbreaker or dragon leap up

Any idea on how to land the incap better?

Show a second of patience. If you have the intuition someone will dodge wait for them to come out and cc or just attack then.

So like a heavy into a incap? Cuz the 10% buff to next hit
I’ll have to try it out

Any ty for the advice.
Just need more practice then

darkblue5

Balorgh/Master's Bow/Spriggan's/Flanking Strategist

Already should be hitting flank/back for the new Camo Hunter so free-ish value.

New Moon Acolyte will be so much nicer.

Balorgh/Spinner's/Spell Strategist

A fun one, maybe should go full troll with Meteor into fear cause cast times

Caluu gank with 3x swift
Pretty fun until unblockable Streak spam. Wow that's balanced™ and interactive gameplay © 2019 darkblue5!

Metemsycosis

ThePhantomThorn wrote: »

Metemsycosis wrote: »

ThePhantomThorn wrote: »

Metemsycosis wrote: »

Heavy attacks

Care to elaborate?

You get a huge bonus from cp
And there are sets that buff heavy attacks.

ThePhantomThorn wrote: »

So tried out a new build
Range to melee
Swamp raider (will change 2 new moon next patch)
Spriggans
Velidreth
Snipe - ambush - incap
Pretty basic and I think it’s been around for a while but it’s very fun. The only issue is that after the ambush ( they are usually around 40 - 30 % hp ) a lot of players spam dodge making me miss the incap. Then always seem to have a dawnbreaker or dragon leap up

Any idea on how to land the incap better?

Show a second of patience. If you have the intuition someone will dodge wait for them to come out and cc or just attack then.

So like a heavy into a incap? Cuz the 10% buff to next hit
I’ll have to try it out

Any ty for the advice.
Just need more practice then

https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Queen's+Elegance+Set

Check this out on a magblade with cp into staff + caluurion at melee range and yes, soul harvest.


Also:

https://eso-sets.com/set/curse-of-doylemish

https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Sergeant's+Mail+Set

https://eso-sets.com/set/undaunted-infiltrator

ThePhantomThorn

Metemsycosis wrote: »

ThePhantomThorn wrote: »

Metemsycosis wrote: »

ThePhantomThorn wrote: »

Metemsycosis wrote: »

Heavy attacks

Care to elaborate?

You get a huge bonus from cp
And there are sets that buff heavy attacks.

ThePhantomThorn wrote: »

So tried out a new build
Range to melee
Swamp raider (will change 2 new moon next patch)
Spriggans
Velidreth
Snipe - ambush - incap
Pretty basic and I think it’s been around for a while but it’s very fun. The only issue is that after the ambush ( they are usually around 40 - 30 % hp ) a lot of players spam dodge making me miss the incap. Then always seem to have a dawnbreaker or dragon leap up

Any idea on how to land the incap better?

Show a second of patience. If you have the intuition someone will dodge wait for them to come out and cc or just attack then.

So like a heavy into a incap? Cuz the 10% buff to next hit
I’ll have to try it out

Any ty for the advice.
Just need more practice then

https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Queen's+Elegance+Set

Check this out on a magblade with cp into staff + caluurion at melee range and yes, soul harvest.


Also:

https://eso-sets.com/set/curse-of-doylemish

https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Sergeant's+Mail+Set

https://eso-sets.com/set/undaunted-infiltrator

Ohh that’s how pepl used to do it
Thought that got nerfed but if it still works I’ll try it out. Looked fun as hell

cmvet

ThePhantomThorn wrote: »

cmvet wrote: »

ThePhantomThorn wrote: »

Any ideas for a stamina gank spec? Dot builds would be interesting or a proc set build
Something like vicecannon + sheer venom or vipers sting with vele

So I'm currently running an insane dot build, it is kinda ridiculous. I need to put a build vid up on it. If sloads was working in PVP I would use that, however, it is not so I got creative.

Base set is Sheer venom (my main gripe is the dot tick pulls you out of stealth, but will finally be fixed next patch apparently)Vicecanon also pulls you out of stealth when the dot ticks and it runs too long to have that happen. Might be better next patch..
Then I run 3 piece Agility and 2 piece Stormfist.
Weapons I the Blackrose prison Bow, and Maelstrom 2h Axe.

I use Double dot poisons on Bow and I slot Dawnbreaker as ulti.

Skills I use that apply/proc a dot are....
1) crit charge (procs maelstrom 2h dot)
2)carve
3) light attack for 2h axe bleed
4)Leathal arrow (applies poison status effect which drops a dot based off your stats)
5)Draining shot (applies brp bow dot)
6)poison inject (applies its dot and procs sheer venom dot)
7)soul trap (nice physical dot)
8)dawnbreaker.

All those skills will also proc stormfist all the damn time which applies it's own dot. (If sloads worked I would run that over agility and stormfist).

So a player could have 12 dots ticking on them at 1 go. Have fun using your magicka cleansing that. Easy to reapply.

Templars are a pain right now because those sweeps are so damn quick it's hard to escape if they catch you, so you may need to slot fear if you have an issue getting away.

This...
Looks....
AWESOME
tho why stormfist over valkyn?

Side note: this is the exact reason I created this discussion. To get awesome builds out there

Mainly because skoria is on my templar lol, but also because of the physical damage stormfist does at the end. I would prefer to run a second 5 peice set instead of a monster set, but Oblivion damage just isn't procing on players right now. amazingly it is quite bursty as well as applying constant dot pressure.

ThePhantomThorn

Are there any good burst proc sets for a stamina gank around anymore?
Want to develop the range 2 melee build further
Something like a stam clauurion

iRaivyne

Using Sheildbreaker, Kena, and sword-singer on my StamBlade.