Lamia's Song set needs a buff

StarOfElyon

I like the 5-piece set bonus but a heal of about 30 health per point of your Ultimate's cost is very small. I don't think it's even a third of a Breath of Life or Honor the Dead. It could really use another look.

Vapirko

They said a set audit is coming at some point but it’s unlikely to address every set and tbh will probably not lead to good things likely just more I’ll thought out nerfs.

Jeremy

StarOfElyon wrote: »

I like the 5-piece set bonus but a heal of about 30 health per point of your Ultimate's cost is very small. I don't think it's even a third of a Breath of Life or Honor the Dead. It could really use another look.

Yeah it's pretty weak I agree. Could probably use a buff.

idk

With the extremely large number of sets in this game I think it is unreasonable to expect Zos to continuously tweak all sets so they are viable. Heck, even if they did buff it there are still better 5 pc sets for both PvP and PvE.

StarOfElyon

I'm bringing this to their attention so that they will not pass over it.

FrancisCrawford

The set is absurdly weak.

FierceSam

(5 items) When you use an Ultimate ability, you heal you and your allies within 20 meters of you for 30 Health per point of the Ultimate's cost.

I found it a very useful growing up set when my healer was starting out. Drop a relatively cheap ultimate and everyone’s health gets a nice kick. When you consider that ultimates vary from around 70 (2100 health) to 200+ (6000 health) it’s an effective Hail Mary set, especially for lower level characters. It also means a healer can choose a more offensive ultimate, which might work more effectively in solo content, while they are levelling, and still have an effective burst heal for group dungeons.

Relatively easy to farm as you are levelling, nice benefit. There are a load of sets like this in the game. They encourage experimental builds and provide a route through for players who are getting into the whole idea of builds and sets.

This one also encourages ultimate use, which is good because many players don’t use them at all, let alone effectively.

Not every set has to be BiS, or even viable in endgame. Some are just there for variety or stats.

Could it be more effective? Obviously yes. Should it be buffed? I’d say that’s a super-low priority. And I’m sure any effort going into set creation/balance is going into ensuring new sets are more competitive (Cos ya gotta flog that new content).

FrancisCrawford

The last time I was aware of a healer running so dry on magicka that the set might have been useful, the game was a few months old and we were running Wayrest Sewers for the first time.

redlink1979

I'm just afraid they refurbish the weaker sets into useless sets...

El_Borracho

If they didn't make it more useful, I would prefer they simply eliminate some sets altogether. Just to use this set as an example, it feels like an RNG placeholder for people trying to get Undaunted Infiltrator jewelry and staves. As a 4 piece, neat. Could probably find a use for it in PVP. But hardly anyone is going to run it as a 5 piece when there are better options out there that are just as easy to obtain.

StarOfElyon

I was using Julianos for the longest time but I always had a thing for this set. Playing a melee magplar, I always had difficulty going offensive because I didn't have a good heal over time. With the Lamia Song's 5-piece bonus. I can afford to fight in close range again stamina fighters because I don't have to stop and heal once before attacking. I just wish it provided a bigger heal.

xxthir13enxx

Lamia need to learn a new tune,eh? eh?

Come on....that gold star material there ppl!!

Jeremy

FierceSam wrote: »

(5 items) When you use an Ultimate ability, you heal you and your allies within 20 meters of you for 30 Health per point of the Ultimate's cost.

I found it a very useful growing up set when my healer was starting out. Drop a relatively cheap ultimate and everyone’s health gets a nice kick. When you consider that ultimates vary from around 70 (2100 health) to 200+ (6000 health) it’s an effective Hail Mary set, especially for lower level characters. It also means a healer can choose a more offensive ultimate, which might work more effectively in solo content, while they are levelling, and still have an effective burst heal for group dungeons.

Relatively easy to farm as you are levelling, nice benefit. There are a load of sets like this in the game. They encourage experimental builds and provide a route through for players who are getting into the whole idea of builds and sets.

This one also encourages ultimate use, which is good because many players don’t use them at all, let alone effectively.

Not every set has to be BiS, or even viable in endgame. Some are just there for variety or stats.

Could it be more effective? Obviously yes. Should it be buffed? I’d say that’s a super-low priority. And I’m sure any effort going into set creation/balance is going into ensuring new sets are more competitive (Cos ya gotta flog that new content).

I suppose. But the heal seems almost offensively conservative to me and it's difficult for me to imagine any healer relying on it for effective burst healing in group dungeons.

The idea behind the set is a good one. But they were too cautious in their approach to it.

Kuratius

I think I'd probably use it if it healed the group depending on your current ultimate gain. So you'd get a long range passive hot.

TheGreatBlackBear

Lol no. If anything they should nerf it to discourage anyone from ever using it. Like why would you want to wear a 5pc that does nothing for the group? People can heal, themselves plus you have actual healing skills if need be. 11/10 times you'd be doing nothing with the set.

StarOfElyon

TheGreatBlackBear wrote: »

Lol no. If anything they should nerf it to discourage anyone from ever using it. Like why would you want to wear a 5pc that does nothing for the group? People can heal, themselves plus you have actual healing skills if need be. 11/10 times you'd be doing nothing with the set.

You just listed a bunch of reasons it should be improved.

StarOfElyon

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_KaiSchober I hope someone sees this thread.

Cadbury

I actually forgot about this set tbh.

It definitely has some niche appeal (I'm kinda curious about using this on a DK healer), but as said above I'm reluctant over having the devs "fix" this.

karekiz

(5 items) When you use an Ultimate ability, you heal you and your allies within 20 meters of you for 30 Health per point of the Ultimate's cost.

When you use an Ultimate ability, you recover resources and heal your allies within X of you for Y per point of resource cost.

heh

ZonasArch

Bumping isn't allowed. If your thread is dying, that's because no one seems to care, and bumping isn't fair to other more relevant threads.

I can support any kind of buff to bad sets though. I'll give you that.