Nerf (PTS) Betty Netch

Canned_Apples

As a Warden player I know a broken ability when I see one.

You (devs) are constantly going on about how overloaded abilities need to be toned down- but now you're giving Wardens a (free) passive purge on cast and every five seconds after on an ability that also restores stamina or magicka, as well as granting Major Sorc/Brutality?

Purge should only be on cast and not every five seconds.

WildRaptorX

No, don't nerf this ability because it is overloaded, but because it goes against everything the devs have been saying

Ffs. Zos have said many times they’re making changes to Wardens, Dragonknights and Sorcerer first. Many times.

Other classes will get their turn.

Chilli

Canned_Apples

Yes, nerf this ability because it is overloaded

Keylun wrote: »

Ffs. Zos have said many times they’re making changes to Wardens, Dragonknights and Sorcerer first. Many times.

Other classes will get their turn.

Chilli

Neither one of the other two classes got a passive purge. -heck, Dragonknight was hardly touched, aside from the game wide dot nerfs.

SidraWillowsky

Have you taken over the role of "terribly biased poll creator" now that that other dude left?

As a Warden player, this ability is fine.

Canned_Apples

Yes, nerf this ability because it is overloaded

SidraWillowsky wrote: »

Have you taken over the role of "terribly biased poll creator" now that that other dude left?

As a Warden player, this ability is fine.

That's what all the Snipe and D-swing spammers always say, "this ability is fine."

The other dude left?

x48rph

There's absolutely no point to a poll if your going to make it biased. Enough said.

Canned_Apples

Yes, nerf this ability because it is overloaded

x48rph wrote: »

There's absolutely no point to a poll if your going to make it biased. Enough said.

Poll was never the point. We all know how Warden mains and FotM chasers will vote.

WildRaptorX

No, don't nerf this ability because it is overloaded, but because it goes against everything the devs have been saying

@Canned_Apples

That is because not all classes should have the same abilities and affects.

Both Sorcerer and Dragonknight offer unique abilities and ultimates that i’d love to have on my warden.

Hopefully they’ll fix DK dots in the upcoming patch notes - since they’re just testing right now.

nsmurfer

Yes, nerf this ability because it is overloaded

@ZOS_Gilliam

Betty Netch does everything Leeching Strikes/Siphoning Attacks(NB), Gives Major Brutality and Sorcery and also auto purges every 5 secs. In fact on pts, it also removes CC(CCs are negative effects). Balance

WildRaptorX

No, don't nerf this ability because it is overloaded, but because it goes against everything the devs have been saying

@nsmurfer yet no one moaned when Blue Betty has been doing exactly this from the release of the warden?

Canned_Apples

Yes, nerf this ability because it is overloaded

Keylun wrote: »

@nsmurfer yet no one moaned when Blue Betty has been doing exactly this from the release of the warden?

@Keylun on cast isn't an issue- it requires a GCD. We're strictly talking about the passive purge.

Darkenarlol

nerf addict detected

you need treatment, seriously


maybe new betty will help you

by dispelling every 5 sec your

attempts to create another nerf thread

MLGProPlayer

No, don't nerf this ability because it is overloaded, but because it goes against everything the devs have been saying

It's been doing this since day 1. The only change on PTS is that it purges on its own every 5s. If you need a purge on demand, you'll still just recast it.

I find it hilarious that everyone is screaming for warden nerfs, when the class has been utter garbage for 2 years now. Their PvE endgame usage rate was never higher than 10% (with magden never seeing more than 1% usage). Now that groups might actually have a reason to bring a warden into trials (or won't be brought down by their presence anymore), people are whining. I'm sorry, but you're going to have to deal with the fact that wardens aren't hot garbage anymore this patch. I know it's a foreign concept considering how awful the class has been for years.

WildRaptorX

No, don't nerf this ability because it is overloaded, but because it goes against everything the devs have been saying

@Canned_Apples

So you’re saying that a spammable cleanse that removes four negative effects on a single cast is worse than a cleanse that removes one negative effect every 5 seconds?

Canned_Apples

Yes, nerf this ability because it is overloaded

@nsmurfer
Oh, you're right. It does remove hard ccs too.
Bonus buff to magdens.

@MLGProPlayer
Betty purge does not have a meaningful impact in pve.
I don't see how any of the Warden changes would really have any impact towards the pve meta.

lucky_Sage

What did DK get a bad awkward clunky spammable that’s has a awful animation and a over nerf to there core dmg.

ccmedaddy

No, don't nerf this ability because it is overloaded, but because it goes against everything the devs have been saying

Do you even keep track of how many debuffs are on you while in PvP? Removing 1 status effect every 5 seconds will barely make any impact.

eso_lytw8

Let classes have special abilities, please stop asking for nerfs. Requests like this are killing the classes. Please stop.

geonsocal

ccmedaddy wrote: »

Do you even keep track of how many debuffs are on you while in PvP? Removing 1 status effect every 5 seconds will barely make any impact.

^this^

Canned_Apples

Yes, nerf this ability because it is overloaded

ccmedaddy wrote: »

Do you even keep track of how many debuffs are on you while in PvP? Removing 1 status effect every 5 seconds will barely make any impact.

Depends on whether you're talking Pre-Scalebreaker or not.
3-4 before, 30+* now.

*hyperbole

SipofMaim

Eh. It's fine. Your class should have some nice things.

Jhalin

No, don't nerf this ability because it is overloaded, but because it goes against everything the devs have been saying

Incap (an ult) can’t dare have a stun, damage amp, and a Defile on it. But Warden (the paid class) can have a on cast purge, multiple more purges after the fact, significant sustain, Major buffs, and passive damage on a standard ability.

If ZOS actually had any intention of bringing up the free classes, then that’d be fine, but we all know they won’t.

AcadianPaladin

1. Poll is biased joke.

2. As far as this skill goes, I do not main a warden, yet admire this ability because it does indeed pack a lot into one skill. I wish other classes had a similarly multipurpose skill. Given that we only have five slots on each bar, I am a huge fan of multipurpose, efficient skills - like Blue Betty. We need more such skills.

Canned_Apples

Yes, nerf this ability because it is overloaded

SipofMaim wrote: »

Eh. It's fine. Your class should have some nice things.

I actually think the new Dive and Fetcher Infection are nice but are pretty weak overall... Dive also has it's own issues... Heavily telegraphed and very slow... so easy to avoid. You're better off using a generic spammable that offers instant damage.

Canned_Apples

Yes, nerf this ability because it is overloaded

@AcadianPaladin
Poll was always intended to be a bad joke. They're useless to begin with, as we all know how people will vote.
Results will always be biased.

AcadianPaladin

Canned_Apples wrote: »

@AcadianPaladin
Poll was always intended to be a bad joke. They're useless to begin with, as we all know how people will vote.
Results will always be biased.

Ah, I see. Thanks for clarifying that. Unfortunately, and as you can see, including the poll-joke has been a distraction to discussing the concept of having more multipurpose buff spells (like Betty Netch) for other classes or nerfing Betty Netch down to the less multipurpose efficiency of skills that other classes have.

Kel

Have we learned nothing as a community?

STOP ASKING FOR FRICKING NERFS

wild_kmacdb16_ESO

Yes, nerf this ability because it is overloaded

If they nerfed momentum due to being “too good to pass up” then I don’t know what they are thinking with this ability.

Ragnarock41

Keylun wrote: »

Ffs. Zos have said many times they’re making changes to Wardens, Dragonknights and Sorcerer first. Many times.

Other classes will get their turn.

Chilli

Yes, because igneous weapons change is really on-par with the betty netch one.

karekiz

No, don't nerf this ability because it is overloaded, but because it goes against everything the devs have been saying

Why not. Devs nerfed certain older vet DLC dungeons to up completion rate since vet DLC were considered hard content. Upped damage on skills. Then next patch reduce the same skills and more because players are too powerful.

Why wouldn't it be different for them say say they don't want to overload an ability while overloading abilities?

WildRaptorX

No, don't nerf this ability because it is overloaded, but because it goes against everything the devs have been saying

@Ragnarock41 igneous passively grants minor brutality taking stamina damage to over a 30% power increase, regenerates ultimate and also stamina.

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Oh, and also, this provides major brutality and sorcery and minor brutality to allies.

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