Faction Change for Crowns
FatherDelve
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Hey dear Crown Store Team,
since we now get soon the non faction locked Cyrodil Campaign, and Faction otherwise has nearly zero impact anymore on the game, I want to ask if its planned for the future to give us a Faction Change like a race change. You could set it behind a paywall, like a race change, with around 3-5k crowns. For a long time now people where crying that this is some kind of "p2w", because you could easy change your faction into the "winning team" in Cyrodil.
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a) we get anyways a non faction locked Cyrodil
b) I can not see a big impact onto any part of ESO, since One Tamriel there is nearly no need for factions anymore besides of Cyrodil.
c) a pay wall prevents people from switching their faction like their underpants.
When I started in 2014 i simply created characters and doesnt care much about factions. Now alot of my friends playing different factions, and I would like to join them atleast with a few characters inside Cyro or IC, without starting a new character. Overall atleast I dont see any negative impact, besides of the usual Whiners that will bring their "omg that is p2w" or "omg sellout". We can now change everything for real money, if its race, names etc.
since we now get soon the non faction locked Cyrodil Campaign, and Faction otherwise has nearly zero impact anymore on the game, I want to ask if its planned for the future to give us a Faction Change like a race change. You could set it behind a paywall, like a race change, with around 3-5k crowns. For a long time now people where crying that this is some kind of "p2w", because you could easy change your faction into the "winning team" in Cyrodil.
But
a) we get anyways a non faction locked Cyrodil
b) I can not see a big impact onto any part of ESO, since One Tamriel there is nearly no need for factions anymore besides of Cyrodil.
c) a pay wall prevents people from switching their faction like their underpants.
When I started in 2014 i simply created characters and doesnt care much about factions. Now alot of my friends playing different factions, and I would like to join them atleast with a few characters inside Cyro or IC, without starting a new character. Overall atleast I dont see any negative impact, besides of the usual Whiners that will bring their "omg that is p2w" or "omg sellout". We can now change everything for real money, if its race, names etc.
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FatherDelve✭✭✭P.S. If that's possible you could let us just Faction Change after a campaign is finished and/or we are not in an active campaign.0
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Pauls✭✭✭✭✭Though it was clearly stated earlier that ZOS dont have in plans to let players change factions.
Btw if it will happen someday l'll immediately move my 2 toons to another alliance, because they were made before I got "Any race any alliance" upgrade and didnt have big interest in pvp. Would be good to play same campaign on 10 chars, not just 8
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Taleof2Cities✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭There is a 30-day CP non-faction locked campaign coming with Update 24 in mid-October.
But, yeah, @Pauls is right. ZOS has stated they aren’t doing Alliance change tokens.
You can re-roll a new character (in Alliance faction of choice) in about a day.0 -
Lazarus_Rising✭✭✭✭✭Thats always my response to people say that ZOS denied it:
Blizzard said some years ago there will never be WOW Classic servers and see what happens. It can happen if enough people want it.
I meet some new friend which i play a decent time now and they all in the other faction... Would be nice to have one.
Alternative they could make the possibility to choose the alliance again for a period of time.Edited by Lazarus_Rising on September 28, 2019 4:34PMalso known as Overlich.1 -
Taleof2Cities✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Lazarus_Rising wrote: »Blizzard said some years ago there will never be WOW Classic servers and see what happens. It can happen if enough people want it.
I meet some new friend which i play a decent time now and they all in the other faction... Would be nice to have one.
This is ESO ... not WOW. Just because something is done in another game doesn’t mean it’s worthwhile to do in another.
As I mentioned in my post above, you can still play with your friend. Just roll another character in your Alliance of choice. It should only take a day.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Taleof2Cities wrote: »There is a 30-day CP non-faction locked campaign coming with Update 24 in mid-October.
But, yeah, @Pauls is right. ZOS has stated they aren’t doing Alliance change tokens.
You can re-roll a new character (in Alliance faction of choice) in about a day.
Every aspect of this is correct.
Zos not only stated they were not interested in offering alliance change but they also acknowledged players have asked for it in the forums. This comment was this year. Basically extremely doubtful Zos will head the request in this thread.0 -
Kalik_Gold✭✭✭✭✭
✭Faction change should be after Caldwell’s Gold is unlocked on 1 character. Play through all 3 alliances. Then receive a token.
Once that token is unlocked on 1 character it is buyable in crown store, Similar to buying skyshards or guild level lines.Main: (PvP & PvE)PS5/NA - Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar - Daggerfall Covenant • 1550+ Champion
Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar, the Vestige
PvP:
Aurik Siet'ka a Redguard Necromancer
Cacique the Sage of Ius a Redguard Warden
Jux Blackheart a Redguard Nightblade
Goliath of Hammerfell a Redguard Dragonknight
Kaotik Von Dae'mon a Redguard* Sorcerer
PvP: (Specialty)
Tyrus Septim an Imperial Lycan Sorcerer
Tsar af-Bomba a Redguard Vampiric Nightblade
Movárth Piquine a Nord Vampiric Necromancer
Uri Ice-Heart the Twin a Nord Vampiric Warden
PvE:
Cinan Tharn an Imperial Dragonknight
Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar an Imperial Dragonknight
Herzog Zwei the Genesis an Akavari* Templar
Tav'i at-Shinji a Redguard** Warden
Lucky Hunch the Gambler - a Redguard Nightblade
Leveling...
Zenovia at-Tura a Redguard** Sorcerer
Yesi af-Kalik a Redguard Templar
Voa a Priest of Sep a Redguard* Necromancer
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Passives of another race used. (RP)
*Breton
**Imperial
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Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.
Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.
Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...
Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.
Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.
The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.
The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.
Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.
Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)
And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.
After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.
After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...
Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.
Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.
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Taleof2Cities wrote: »There is a 30-day CP non-faction locked campaign coming with Update 24 in mid-October.
But, yeah, @Pauls is right. ZOS has stated they aren’t doing Alliance change tokens.
You can re-roll a new character (in Alliance faction of choice) in about a day.
Get a new Character to 50 in a day? This One has doubts.Leader Of The Children Of Razum Dar Guild (Khajiit Guild) on All 6 MegaServers
Khajiit Quote Of The Day.
"These useless senche could only kill a rat if they fell upon it. From a great height."1 -
LordLomax✭✭✭✭Why faction change when they are putting in a 30 day non faction lock replacing the 10 day campaign?0 -
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✭✭✭Kalik_Gold wrote: »Faction change should be after Caldwell’s Gold is unlocked on 1 character. Play through all 3 alliances. Then receive a token.
Even with Cadwell's Gold, your initial alliance selection is probably tied in to the base game zones and a change could screw up alliance checks in quests.
It's probably gonna be a headache for them to recode all that to account for a possible change.
My DC character completed all base game zones before the quest took her to Coldharbour, and some character responses were bugged for AD and EP. So for sure alliance checks are used in quests. Even after the base game, they use it sometimes, such as when you talk to the EP recruiter in Lilmoth.
It'd be easier to do an AvA specific alliance status change even though technically it wouldn't make sense while you were doing the alliance quests. That is, if you started as DC you are still DC for PvE quests but you enter Cyrodiil and IC based on whatever alliance you sign with. And you can switch for a fee that escalates each time you switch during an active campaign period.Edited by Dusk_Coven on October 2, 2019 3:29AM0 -
TheShadowScout✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭...as I have said before:TheShadowScout wrote: »Though I still say, IF alliance change, then Done RIGHT!
And by that I don't mean some token that pops your character to a new alliance, I do indeed mean a whole guild-DLC sized questline with an cloak and dagger (Or since this is ESO, "hood and dagger", perhaps?) spycraft flavor and a "faction loyalty called in question" plot, where you get to make a big choice in the middle - stay loyal to your alliance and prove yourself, or turn your back on them and defect to greener pastures elsewhere...
With the second half (or two thirds, or whatever) of the questline being different depending on your choice - either uncovering the one who actually framed you, mobilize your old and trusted allies to gather support and track down the true conspiracy while dodging the agents sent to bring you in; or preparing your escape, dodging the agents sent to arrest you, courting your desired new friends while grabbing some juicy secrets on the way out to sweeten the deal, etc.
Such a story could have a neutral city as "spycraft" focal point (like vienna during the cold war, where spies and agents often went to spy hard between the two sides - for ESO it could be some place between the alliances, a former imperial town declared "free city" after the fall of the empire in northern nibenay, eastern colovia or western skyrim, perhaps, or even an post-anchorite-war isle of stirk...), but otherwise take you all over the old faction regions, possibly revisiting a few one-time-only maps with new mobs... and perhaps even meeting a few familiar faces (come on, wouldn't you love to slam a porticullis shut into Razum-dars face as you hop on a boat bound to Morrowind with thre adorable Naryu?
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Such a questline could even have special titles depending on what you choose... "[original faction] Loyalist" or "[original faction] Defector"... obviously it would be a one-time only event, thus making serial defectors that change alliance depending on which one is currently top in cyrodil that some people always fear when this topic comes up an impossibility.
And it also might have drawbacks for PvP, like... reduced AP gain for several months, since noone fully trusts a traitor... or maybe having to re-earn all the AP up to your current rank before you start progressing again, representing your efforts to convince your new allies of your trustworthyness... and definitely increased AP rewards if a member of your original faction takes you down, because...
(there could even be a daily "hunt traitor" mission, and defectors from your PvP-characters alliance in cyrodil getting an visual clue while that mission is active...)
Also, this could be a option to add new factions to PvP.
And yes, those could be "crown store unlocks"...
Like... have options to not just defect to one of the other two alliances, but also "go rogue" and join a new "Outlaw" faction (...black color and jolly roger flag, perhaps? Would be hostile to -every- other faction in cyrodil, and spawn at some new but unsecured base, thus very susceptible to enemy raids - trials of being an outlaw in the face of organized armies); or an "Imperial Remnant" faction (purple imperial diamond flag, spawning in some ill-secured legion base somewhere, possibly at the nibenay border, and also fighting everyone else, but turning all the "imperial" NPCs in cyrodil non-hostile?), or a "neutral" faction that is "yellow" to everyone (green flag and incapable of capturing locations, spawning at various random merchant camps and such...)
Might be too complicated, but would still be interesting!1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭JusticeForJilarga wrote: »Taleof2Cities wrote: »There is a 30-day CP non-faction locked campaign coming with Update 24 in mid-October.
But, yeah, Pauls is right. ZOS has stated they aren’t doing Alliance change tokens.
You can re-roll a new character (in Alliance faction of choice) in about a day.
Get a new Character to 50 in a day? This One has doubts.
With sufficient preparation and gold, yes. The best method is to stockpile echanting and alchemy master writs, quickly master those crafts on your new character and craft the writs all at once, then pop yiur exp buff before you turn the writs in for massive exp rewards.
Expensive, and even more so if you decide to just buy your skyshards and skill lines, but entirely doable to go from 1 to 50 in a day.0 -
AzurasDaddy✭✭✭For the people saying roll a new toon, I would if I could have more than 18 toons, but I'm at max. Also I didn't get into pvp until I was already max CP, all my toons before that are random alliances. They have max mounts, max bag, and loads of achievements/titles. Not to mention my first character is my crafter, I'm not relearning all that stuff again. I think ZOS won't give us these tokens because they want ppl to have to remake toons and either be forced to suffer through mount upgrades or pay hella money for Mount upgrades.0 -
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✭I want to change, just for RP reasons
Gepe, Dunmer MagSorc Pact Grand Overlord | Gaepe, Bosmer MagSorc Dominion General
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✭✭✭✭To all the people saying roll a new toon, sure, you can run around and level it up and collect all the skill points for me, you'll do that right?1
