FACTION LOCKING FOR CYRODIIL DOES NOT WORK!! (So here's my FIX)

DeathsBride

Good Afternoon Everyone,

It's nice that ZoS and the Dev's thought that by placing a 30 day Faction lock on Cyrodiil would fix the 'Cross Faction Jumping" in the middle of a campaign, but all that's done is create some MAJOR IMBALANCES to the factions. It would seem that the majority of folks playing the game have toons in each faction, and enjoy jumping the fence to play as their guilds in those factions call for.

This creates a deficiency in the other factions while creating multiple 100-man raids in the faction of choice that would run the map and control the entire map for the whole campaign. Clearly this is FRUSTRATING for those of us who have chosen to be "Purist" and play one faction. This cannot continue for the large scale PvP action in Cyrodiil.

What I would propose is to adapt the Faction style used in games such as Dark Age of Camelot and AION: You get ONE CHOICE for your faction. ALL characters made under that account are LOCKED INTO THAT FACTION.

Now with those folks with multiple faction characters, I'm quite sure they will scream "FOUL" on this suggestion, but there's a SIMPLE FIX for this: Simply give them all 30 days to choose a faction they wish to move all their characters to for free (Faction change tokens if you like), but after that 30 days, if they did not make the choice to "choose freely", then the first character they log into would become the faction of choice. All non-faction characters would be 'GRAYED" out and made unplayable until they pay to have them unlocked.

On ALL future accounts created after the implementation of the new rules can have the "Be advised that you can have only one faction per account. Once you've chosen a faction and created a character, the faction choice is LOCKED. If you want to change to another faction, you would have to pay for it, or delete your current faction character(s) before being able to do so under your current account."

THIS will fix the imbalance currently felt across Cyrodiil, and return ORDER to something truly GREAT without any large scale crying.

Thank you all. have yourself a "Wonderful time in the World that ZoS has built."

Death: Harvester of Souls
Necromancer
"Where she stands, Raids die... Come to me... The time for the harvest is at hand!"

Haink

Hey, you might want to read the new patch notes. Just sayin..

DeadlyRecluse

There's zero chance they faction-lock entire accounts at this point in the game.

Taleof2Cities

Haink wrote: »

Hey, you might want to read the new patch notes. Just sayin..

^This.^

They are adding a new 30-day CP campaign that is not faction locked. Update 24 should drop on PC mid-October ... console to follow two (2) weeks after that.

ZOS has said already they’re not doing Alliance change tokens ... due to the many impacts it would cause in both PvP and PvE.

kargen27

Faction lock seems to be working to me. I have one AD character and I couldn't get him into the thirty day campaign. My one EP character couldn't get there either. All my DC characters get there just fine.

DeathsBride

I read the upcoming patch notes, but all that does is remove the faction lock by removing the locked server completely, and returns it back to the "Before" settings.

You'll still have folks doing exactly what I've stated they're doing on the locked server sessions simply because they've now found out that it's doable. They will continue to do this now regardless of the fact that the lock has been removed because they've been shown that they can manipulate each faction to allow their characters to ALL benefit from RAGE RAID RUNS. Removing the faction lock just means for 10 days, I'm DC - 10 days I'm EP - and 10 days AD. and I'll have multiple points on my characters, and the guild that wants to take the championship home can do so w/o any repercussions.

"The dice are loaded, the table slanted to those wanting to abuse the system." The system is flawed and NEEDS to be overhauled. Or what's happening now in Cyrodiil will continue to occur, and the pusher for this drug of choice is ZoS.

FIX THIS, PLEASE

Xologamer

i still think that we dont need a faction lock just preventing friends to play together and i personaly dont know naybody cahnging char to winning aliance but i now guys cahning char to ,,losing " aliance so there more opponents and less zergs

Katahdin

Locking all your characters to one campaign only is not going to solve population imbalances. It will just reinforce them.

They are not removing locked campaigns in the next update (patch notes in PTS forum). They are ADDING a 30 day unlocked campaign so those that want to faction hop can do so.

We will see which is really preferred by the playerbase.

Heatnix90

Stop trying to limit options. Time has proved that negative reinforcement doesn't work. Instead of forcing faction locks, the devs should actually INCENTIVIZE faction loyalty. Nothing at all right now makes staying loyal to one faction any bit appealing at all.

Katahdin

Heatnix90 wrote: »

Stop trying to limit options. Time has proved that negative reinforcement doesn't work. Instead of forcing faction locks, the devs should actually INCENTIVIZE faction loyalty. Nothing at all right now makes staying loyal to one faction any bit appealing at all.

How do you suggest they do that?
If you make the rewards for winning so much better than losing, people will figure it out and stack one faction. They used to switch all the time for the slightly better rewards given out as it is.

kargen27

Katahdin wrote: »

Locking all your characters to one campaign only is not going to solve population imbalances. It will just reinforce them.

They are not removing locked campaigns in the next update (patch notes in PTS forum). They are ADDING a 30 day unlocked campaign so those that want to faction hop can do so.

We will see which is really preferred by the playerbase.

Going on a tangent but I am curious if we will now be able get to twice as many get thirty day tier one rewards each month now.

max_only

No.

Taleof2Cities

DeathsBride wrote: »

I read the upcoming patch notes, but all that does is remove the faction lock by removing the locked server completely, and returns it back to the "Before" settings.

Huh?

Looks like you didn’t read the patch notes.

They are adding another 30-day CP campaign in addition to the faction-locked 30-day CP campaign.

So, you can play on the new campaign on the “Before” settings ... or play on the current 30-day “Purist” campaign which is faction-locked. The 7-day campaign is being shut down.

Sadly, neither ZOS nor you, @DeathsBride, get to control which organized raids will play which server.

But, when you join he faction-locked campaign, you don’t have to worry about the players “jumping ship” to play on their off-Alliance alts.

Since CP players now have the choice for either game mode, there is definitely no need for Alliance change tokens.

Austinseph1

It’s going to be your choice to ply the locked version so just... do the other one? If people want a non flip flop campaign they can play faction lock, if they like the unlocked for playing with others then do that one. There is no downside and you can just choose one..

cmvet

Haink wrote: »

Hey, you might want to read the new patch notes. Just sayin..

So glad that was the first response.......

Ackwalan

You can't "fix" the people doing this. There are just some people that like to disrupt other peoples time. If they can't faction hop to troll a scroll, change the whole map one alliance they will find some other way to troll others.

Katahdin

kargen27 wrote: »

Katahdin wrote: »

Locking all your characters to one campaign only is not going to solve population imbalances. It will just reinforce them.

They are not removing locked campaigns in the next update (patch notes in PTS forum). They are ADDING a 30 day unlocked campaign so those that want to faction hop can do so.

We will see which is really preferred by the playerbase.

Going on a tangent but I am curious if we will now be able get to twice as many get thirty day tier one rewards each month now.

No because tier rewards only come from leaderboard and you only get leaderboard status in your home campaign of which you can only have one. It has always been that way before faction locks were put in. You will still get AP from any of the campaigns you are not homed in though.

Major_Lag

Katahdin wrote: »

kargen27 wrote: »

Katahdin wrote: »

Locking all your characters to one campaign only is not going to solve population imbalances. It will just reinforce them.

They are not removing locked campaigns in the next update (patch notes in PTS forum). They are ADDING a 30 day unlocked campaign so those that want to faction hop can do so.

We will see which is really preferred by the playerbase.

Going on a tangent but I am curious if we will now be able get to twice as many get thirty day tier one rewards each month now.

No because tier rewards only come from leaderboard and you only get leaderboard status in your home campaign of which you can only have one. It has always been that way before faction locks were put in. You will still get AP from any of the campaigns you are not homed in though.

If the new 30 day campaign doesn't "line up" with the existing 30 days in terms of when it begins/ends, it would be possible to home the earlier campaign, grind up a geode there, then rehome to the "later" campaign and grind another geode there.

Currently you can do a similar thing with the 7 day: after 30 day ends, rehome to 7 day, grind up 3 10-transmute geodes there, then rehome back to 30-day and grind a 50-geode there.
Of course all this rehoming is quite expensive in terms of AP, but that's another story entirely.

So really the question is, will the campaigns line up.