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Now excuse me while I switch MMOs to play viable casters in GW2. Don't worry about changing my mind. Only the devs. can do that with their patch notes.
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✭✭✭✭✭Yeah, but according to the forums, Stamina is dead, LOL. I'll believe it when I see it.#CAREBEARMASTERRACE5 -
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✭Emma_Overload wrote: »Yeah, but according to the forums, Stamina is dead, LOL. I'll believe it when I see it.
According to the forums MagPlar got a buff. When almost all of it's damaging abilities took a 40% to 60% nerf to damage. The forums won't be happy till ZO$ finally just delete ranged caster and turn ESO into a Brawler Korean MMO.6 -
chrightt✭✭✭✭"Elder Stamina is Back"
wait a minute, what?
looks at dizzy swing changes
hmmmmmmmmmm ok
Edited by chrightt on September 17, 2019 5:20PM15 -
psycoprophet✭✭Lol as bad as the changes seem their nowhere near the clown spam fiesta gw2 is right now. Gw2 is nothing more than spam wars and carry builds lol but one thing people that hate this patch would love about gw2 is u dont have to stress about build changes or patches that shake things up cuz they never happen, just usual small changes most times no one asked for that changes 0 regarding playstyle or meta. Meta hasn't changed in yrs. Yeah I still currently play gw2 pvp here and there but don't think the jump is gonna make u much happier.2
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Not Stamina Templar. It was/is already top notch, and if things don't change quite a lot between now and the next patch going live, they're going to be pretty ridiculous. Spam Biting Jabs with a Javelin on standby for Onslaught + Power of the Light one shot combo.Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »“Look, my class got nerfed”
Every class got nerfed.
And even among the classes that got nerfed, not all the nerfs are equal. Magicka Necromancer is even worse than it was when Elsweyr went into early access, and it was downright awful then. The Colossus' Major Vulnerability only applies on the third hit (which means never in PvP), the Skeletal Mage's damage will be worse than it was at the beginning while still costing twice as much as it did then, the "generic" DOTs will be doing ~250 DPS each in PvP, and Blastbones will still be really unreliable (especially in bad terrain/BG maps). Magicka Necromancer offense will simply not exist outside of clunky, gimmicky, highly telegraphed burst attempts that will have a long "cooldown" between them.4 -
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Not Stamina Templar. It was/is already top notch, and if things don't change quite a lot between now and the next patch going live, they're going to be pretty ridiculous. Spam Biting Jabs with a Javelin on standby for Onslaught + Power of the Light one shot combo.Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »“Look, my class got nerfed”
Every class got nerfed.
Shhhhhh.....
Keep that **** on the down low.Edited by ChunkyCat on September 17, 2019 6:15PM2 -
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Not Stamina Templar. It was/is already top notch, and if things don't change quite a lot between now and the next patch going live, they're going to be pretty ridiculous. Spam Biting Jabs with a Javelin on standby for Onslaught + Power of the Light one shot combo.Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »“Look, my class got nerfed”
Every class got nerfed.
Shhhhhh.....
Keep that **** on the down low.
Too late, everyone knows but the dev team. Apparently from the dev stream they think Templars needed a damage buff and were underperforming.Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
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✭✭✭✭✭Viper set does more damage then Searing Strike now on PTS *grin*.
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mursie✭✭✭✭✭magplar and magden are and will be strong. magdk with whip and the OP petrify will remain viable. magsorc has been and will always be good, maybe not top tier but strong.
stamden and stamplar are going to be strong as well.
stamsorc, stamnecro, and stamdk took it in the A and will back seat toons.
mag/stam blade have been gutted five patches in a row now - strictly solo cyrodiil gank toons on lowbie new players at this point.
magnecro - somewhere near the bottom.6 -
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Not Stamina Templar. It was/is already top notch, and if things don't change quite a lot between now and the next patch going live, they're going to be pretty ridiculous. Spam Biting Jabs with a Javelin on standby for Onslaught + Power of the Light one shot combo.Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »“Look, my class got nerfed”
Every class got nerfed.
Shhhhhh.....
Keep that **** on the down low.
Yeah keep that 2k jav hit on the DL. So OP. And that pesky Templar skill Onslaught. It should be removed from the class. Oh and the jabs that are actually slightly weaker on PTS than live in CP. Yeah damn man nerf that ***. *** Stamplars are top dog. The only thing even mildly strong about Stamplars is the PotL crit and that won’t last.Edited by Vapirko on September 19, 2019 2:40PM1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭This has to be a bad attempt of sarcasm.
Believe it or not this person is quite serious. They do nothing but post biased, incorrect information and have no care or thought for the fact that they’re almost always wrong. They exist solely to make sure that everything but the class they play gets nerfed.3 -
FakeZavos✭✭✭✭FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »Emma_Overload wrote: »Yeah, but according to the forums, Stamina is dead, LOL. I'll believe it when I see it.
According to the forums MagPlar got a buff. When almost all of it's damaging abilities took a 40% to 60% nerf to damage. The forums won't be happy till ZO$ finally just delete ranged caster and turn ESO into a Brawler Korean MMO.
You think getting hit by 13-15k purifying light's is not a buff? Its like the biggest PvP buff for templars in ages. And they were already strong. And yes, stamina will have a hard time with almost all Dots nerfed and dizzy swing losing its viability. Hard to burst on a stamclass without dizzy. (aka stamsorc, stamcro, stamdk (without dots) and stamden). Sure you will have tornado to spam or something. But you loose ur main stun and main dmg ability on most of these classes. Sure most magclasses are a tat underpowered atm aswell. Stamplar and magplar are gonna be king next patch. Not stamina or magicka. Just both templars.Why do I even try5 -
RighteousBacon✭✭✭✭Templar jabs. got nerfed. Don’t forget thatEdited by RighteousBacon on September 19, 2019 5:27PM0 -
FakeZavos✭✭✭✭grannas211 wrote: »One thing for sure, Necromancer is deader than their chit pets and corpses.
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Nemeliom✭✭✭✭magplar and magden are and will be strong. magdk with whip and the OP petrify will remain viable. magsorc has been and will always be good, maybe not top tier but strong.
stamden and stamplar are going to be strong as well.
stamsorc, stamnecro, and stamdk took it in the A and will back seat toons.
mag/stam blade have been gutted five patches in a row now - strictly solo cyrodiil gank toons on lowbie new players at this point.
magnecro - somewhere near the bottom.
True. Havent played stamblade since 3 patches ago. Too many nerfs.
Magsorc, magdk still really viable. Direct dmg wasnt nerfed (yet).Baradur Morker - Level 50 Bosmer Nightblade
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My current Stam necro Archer will feel the damage loss in injection
Mag necro... Wasn't even in a good place in live
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Not Stamina Templar. It was/is already top notch, and if things don't change quite a lot between now and the next patch going live, they're going to be pretty ridiculous. Spam Biting Jabs with a Javelin on standby for Onslaught + Power of the Light one shot combo.Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »“Look, my class got nerfed”
Every class got nerfed.
And even among the classes that got nerfed, not all the nerfs are equal. Magicka Necromancer is even worse than it was when Elsweyr went into early access, and it was downright awful then. The Colossus' Major Vulnerability only applies on the third hit (which means never in PvP), the Skeletal Mage's damage will be worse than it was at the beginning while still costing twice as much as it did then, the "generic" DOTs will be doing ~250 DPS each in PvP, and Blastbones will still be really unreliable (especially in bad terrain/BG maps). Magicka Necromancer offense will simply not exist outside of clunky, gimmicky, highly telegraphed burst attempts that will have a long "cooldown" between them.
TOP NOTCH? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
I've mained it since Beta, never was, nor is it now top notch. You have got to be kidding?jerzeedevil.com
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✭✭✭✭✭JerzeeDevil wrote: »
Not Stamina Templar. It was/is already top notch, and if things don't change quite a lot between now and the next patch going live, they're going to be pretty ridiculous. Spam Biting Jabs with a Javelin on standby for Onslaught + Power of the Light one shot combo.Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »“Look, my class got nerfed”
Every class got nerfed.
And even among the classes that got nerfed, not all the nerfs are equal. Magicka Necromancer is even worse than it was when Elsweyr went into early access, and it was downright awful then. The Colossus' Major Vulnerability only applies on the third hit (which means never in PvP), the Skeletal Mage's damage will be worse than it was at the beginning while still costing twice as much as it did then, the "generic" DOTs will be doing ~250 DPS each in PvP, and Blastbones will still be really unreliable (especially in bad terrain/BG maps). Magicka Necromancer offense will simply not exist outside of clunky, gimmicky, highly telegraphed burst attempts that will have a long "cooldown" between them.
TOP NOTCH? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
I've mained it since Beta, never was, nor is it now top notch. You have got to be kidding?
People think Stamplars are OP because jabs doesn’t let them go into stealth immediately after a failed gank.Edited by Vapirko on September 23, 2019 11:55PM4 -
JerzeeDevil✭✭✭Probably right, a L2P issue!jerzeedevil.com
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chrightt✭✭✭✭Stamplars are going to be pretty good next patch though. Extended ritual doesn’t need to be spammed so less pressure on magicka. Onslaught untouched so that goes really well with the new jab that slows from first jab. Javelin is a consistent stun with decent damage (because it now ignores armor) that many classes don’t have anymore. Purifying light can crit........ which is honestly dumb but there you go.4
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Stamplar is extremely good in Scalebreaker, and if the PTS doesn't change much it'll absolutely be among the top dogs next patch. The burst combo will be incredibly simple to pull off, and you can try it every 6 seconds as long as you have 150 Ultimate (which often won't even be needed in no-CP if PotL crits). Having an improved Javelin and a Jabs that snares on the first hit means that the loss of stun on Dizzying Swing doesn't affect Stamina Templar nearly as much as it does most other classes.JerzeeDevil wrote: »
Not Stamina Templar. It was/is already top notch, and if things don't change quite a lot between now and the next patch going live, they're going to be pretty ridiculous. Spam Biting Jabs with a Javelin on standby for Onslaught + Power of the Light one shot combo.Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »“Look, my class got nerfed”
Every class got nerfed.
And even among the classes that got nerfed, not all the nerfs are equal. Magicka Necromancer is even worse than it was when Elsweyr went into early access, and it was downright awful then. The Colossus' Major Vulnerability only applies on the third hit (which means never in PvP), the Skeletal Mage's damage will be worse than it was at the beginning while still costing twice as much as it did then, the "generic" DOTs will be doing ~250 DPS each in PvP, and Blastbones will still be really unreliable (especially in bad terrain/BG maps). Magicka Necromancer offense will simply not exist outside of clunky, gimmicky, highly telegraphed burst attempts that will have a long "cooldown" between them.
TOP NOTCH? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
I've mained it since Beta, never was, nor is it now top notch. You have got to be kidding?People think Stamplars are OP because jabs doesn’t let them go into stealth immediately after a failed yank.
I haven't PvP'd on a stealth-capable character since well before Summerset's release.JerzeeDevil wrote: »Probably right, a L2P issue!
People whine about a supposed "DOT meta," but the truth is, burst has always been king in small group fights involving decent players. The more healing and cleansing your opponents have, the more important burst becomes, and the less DOTs matter. Stamina Templar already has some of the best burst in the game, and with a crit-enabled PotL and totally un-touched Onslaught, that's only going to improve...especially relative to other Stamina classes when/if the Dizzying Swing nerfs go through.
Power of the Light can get really close to 8k damage in no-CP with the current live patch. Can you name any other skill in the game that can hit for anywhere near 8k non-crit in no-CP PvP? And you stand a chance at eating that sort of damage every 6 seconds if you're under fire, even if you manage to force the Templar himself to back off.2 -
Rhaegar75✭✭✭✭✭FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »Now excuse me while I switch MMOs to play viable casters in GW2. Don't worry about changing my mind. Only the devs. can do that with their patch notes.
Magplar caster here and I think my toon will still viable. Plus I wouldn’t play GW2 again if they paid me to do it 😂
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✭✭✭✭✭JerzeeDevil wrote: »
Not Stamina Templar. It was/is already top notch, and if things don't change quite a lot between now and the next patch going live, they're going to be pretty ridiculous. Spam Biting Jabs with a Javelin on standby for Onslaught + Power of the Light one shot combo.Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »“Look, my class got nerfed”
Every class got nerfed.
And even among the classes that got nerfed, not all the nerfs are equal. Magicka Necromancer is even worse than it was when Elsweyr went into early access, and it was downright awful then. The Colossus' Major Vulnerability only applies on the third hit (which means never in PvP), the Skeletal Mage's damage will be worse than it was at the beginning while still costing twice as much as it did then, the "generic" DOTs will be doing ~250 DPS each in PvP, and Blastbones will still be really unreliable (especially in bad terrain/BG maps). Magicka Necromancer offense will simply not exist outside of clunky, gimmicky, highly telegraphed burst attempts that will have a long "cooldown" between them.
TOP NOTCH? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
I've mained it since Beta, never was, nor is it now top notch. You have got to be kidding?
I don't always agree with wheem, but he's right about this. For a long time now, *good* stamplars have been more difficult to deal with than any other spec. They put out insane pressure, but hardly seem to take any damage. They burn me out of resources faster than any other spec. POTL is frigging ridiculous, does twice as much damage to me as my Curse does to them, and my Curse tooltip is roughly the same as the top Mag Sorc streamers. The only "counter" seems to be to get the heck away from them and hope I have time to recover and reset the fight.#CAREBEARMASTERRACE0 -
JerzeeDevil✭✭✭So, in other words you don't like it...currently. Never, and I repeat, never has Stamplar, OR ANY Templar been top anything. Ever.
Most nerfed class since the beginning of ESO.
Bar none.
You all just want your cake and to eat it too. Agree to ignore the facts, I guess.jerzeedevil.com
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