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Please stop with this meaningless threads?

perolord
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Please stop with these whine and meaningless threads... the patch is on test realm, cycle1 and some things will still change.

But the thing that i would like to point out here is... there are TROLLS not whiners, but TROLLS on this forum, trolling for every change ZOS makes and yet they still play the game...

The thing is, MMO is under patches constantly and some are good, some are bad. there will be no patch/changes that all players will like. I play MMOs for 20 years and never in history there was not a single MMO with different behaviour of players like this..

So this is something normal, ppl will stay, ppl will leave, some will come back, new players will join... this game still has potential for few good years before players will start to leave the game..

So in my opinion, i find this really normal on forums...
  • p4l4mu7
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    So we can't criticize the game we love to play? How will they get feedback for PTS. Not every change means good, when they wanted to add cast time to damage shields these "troll" threads stopped it, you need criticism to develop the best you can.
  • stewhead2ub17_ESO
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    p4l4mu7 wrote: »
    So we can't criticize the game we love to play? How will they get feedback for PTS. Not every change means good, when they wanted to add cast time to damage shields these "troll" threads stopped it, you need criticism to develop the best you can.

    A person should know the difference between "criticism" and "whining".
  • perolord
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    p4l4mu7 wrote: »
    So we can't criticize the game we love to play? How will they get feedback for PTS. Not every change means good, when they wanted to add cast time to damage shields these "troll" threads stopped it, you need criticism to develop the best you can.

    Not on general forum, you have forum for PTS critics...
  • MartiniDaniels
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    p4l4mu7 wrote: »
    So we can't criticize the game we love to play? How will they get feedback for PTS. Not every change means good, when they wanted to add cast time to damage shields these "troll" threads stopped it, you need criticism to develop the best you can.

    A person should know the difference between "criticism" and "whining".

    Imagine your salary will be decreased by 50% and annual bonus by 63%. Your reaction to this will be criticism or whining?
  • drkfrontiers
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    No patch has every made it impossible for me to continue to enjoy the game or any of the content.
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  • lillybit
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    Meaningless threads like this one...?
    PS4 EU
  • stewhead2ub17_ESO
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    p4l4mu7 wrote: »
    So we can't criticize the game we love to play? How will they get feedback for PTS. Not every change means good, when they wanted to add cast time to damage shields these "troll" threads stopped it, you need criticism to develop the best you can.

    A person should know the difference between "criticism" and "whining".

    Imagine your salary will be decreased by 50% and annual bonus by 63%. Your reaction to this will be criticism or whining?

    This type of comparison isn't even relevant but I will entertain it: I would not go on the company website threatening to leave and tell the company how "badly they suck" and how "stupid they are". That is "whining". A much more detailed correspondence to the board detailing why cutting my my salary and bonus is actually adverse to what the company is trying to achieve and, thus, a bad idea, is "criticism".

    Glad I could clear that up for you.
    Edited by stewhead2ub17_ESO on September 17, 2019 10:42AM
  • TirantLoBlanch
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    The answer is plain and simple. We will NOT stop to give our negative feedback to negative changes.
    We have the right to write in a forum our arguments, and to express our feelings.

    New players will not stay a long time if they continue throwing their efforts to take the pace of the big guys to the trash can.

    I started to play in 2017 and never came here to troll no one, i adapted full of patience to every change.

    An now I feel that enough is enough.
  • Moonsorrow
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    lillybit wrote: »
    Meaningless threads like this one...?

    Wish i could give you both Agree and Awesome at the same time. So i gave an Awesome and also reporting that i fully Agree. :p
  • MartiniDaniels
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    p4l4mu7 wrote: »
    So we can't criticize the game we love to play? How will they get feedback for PTS. Not every change means good, when they wanted to add cast time to damage shields these "troll" threads stopped it, you need criticism to develop the best you can.

    A person should know the difference between "criticism" and "whining".

    Imagine your salary will be decreased by 50% and annual bonus by 63%. Your reaction to this will be criticism or whining?

    This type of comparison isn't even relevant but I will entertain it: I would not go on the company website threatening to leave and tell the company how "badly they suck" and how "stupid they are". That is "whining". A much more detailed correspondence to the board detailing why cutting my my salary and bonus is actually adverse to what the company is trying to achieve and, thus, a bad idea, is "criticism".

    Glad I could clear that up for you.

    You didn't get it. They are relevant in terms that 50% decrease (half of previous tooltip) is absurd, change of such magnitude is a natural disaster, it can't be whined about or criticized, it's just "run for you lives" scenario.
    People will simply leave, nobody will work for half of previous salary, when there are other companies searching for people (i.e. ton of other games on the market).

    Ok, people who play mostly for questing won't leave, but why then change everything at all? Even questing received a fair share of QoL nerfs... change to rapids for example.
  • bearbelly
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    Hey, OP, if you're going to berate the community, can you at least make use of the edit button and fix the typo in your thread title?
  • Idinuse
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    perolord wrote: »
    Please stop with these whine and meaningless threads... the patch is on test realm, cycle1 and some things will still change.

    But the thing that i would like to point out here is... there are TROLLS not whiners, but TROLLS on this forum, trolling for every change ZOS makes and yet they still play the game...

    The thing is, MMO is under patches constantly and some are good, some are bad. there will be no patch/changes that all players will like. I play MMOs for 20 years and never in history there was not a single MMO with different behaviour of players like this..

    So this is something normal, ppl will stay, ppl will leave, some will come back, new players will join... this game still has potential for few good years before players will start to leave the game..

    So in my opinion, i find this really normal on forums...

    Are you confused? "Stop these meaningless threads" yet ""So in my opinion, I find this normal on forums..."

    What a meaningless thread.
    Edited by Idinuse on September 17, 2019 11:59AM
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  • Kel
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    How many crowns did you get for this post?
  • rotaugen454
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    Kel wrote: »
    How many crowns did you get for this post?

    One meeeleon crowns...
    *raises pinky finger to mouth*
    "Get off my lawn!"
  • Reistr_the_Unbroken
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    perolord wrote: »
    p4l4mu7 wrote: »
    So we can't criticize the game we love to play? How will they get feedback for PTS. Not every change means good, when they wanted to add cast time to damage shields these "troll" threads stopped it, you need criticism to develop the best you can.

    Not on general forum, you have forum for PTS critics...

    But not everyone can use a PTS now can they?
  • Mannix1958
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    lillybit wrote: »
    Meaningless threads like this one...?

    You beat me too it...but may I add its whining about those who are whining....
  • WuffyCerulei
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    I’m angry and I’m gonna let them know about it.
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  • rotaugen454
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    I’m mad as hell, and I’m not going to take this anymore!

    (Old movie reference)
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  • perolord
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    Haha... well i can see you are all offended like little kids, that is a good confirmation for me.

    Do whatever you want.. quit, play, troll, whine like a baby for something that is only on PTS and will change few times before release... lol..

    But yea..

    Ohh and btw.. i get 10.000.000 crowns for this.. lol =)
  • MojaveHeld
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    The only thing that is meaningless and pointless were the changes ZOS tried to shove through here. Standing up to it and making the backlash intense enough that the combat team has to admit their errors and revert all the changes, is what the forums should be getting used for right now. That's the noble thing here, not bashing people for having the guts to do it.
  • Banana
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    Ok
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Complaining about complaining . The circle is now complete .
  • perolord
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    finnaly =)
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