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DOTs nerfed, but HOTs not?

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Casterial
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ZOS, why nerf DOTs and not HOTs? HOTs were buffed with DOTs, the balance web has to follow one.
DMG < --- > Heals

If you change one, the other must change :)

Is this not true?

I originally planned to make a big post, but this is literally the only thing bugging me...

aside from Jabs not getting buffed from Master-At-Arms
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  • FakeFox
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    I think you are missing something. Healing needs to scale with incoming damage in PvE, which is not affected by the changes and can not freely be changed as it is closely linked with mechanics and the effective health balance. So, I agree, maybe HOTs need to be adjusted, but if so then by a PvP exclusive modifier.
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  • DaNnYtHePcFrEaK
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    Well that DoT meta lasted long.... this is where everyone loses about 10-15k dps... what are they doing? Do they even have people testing these changes? This pure lunacy!! I honestly give up with this game, may as well just use whatever skills you want because all damage is going to be junk now
  • cmvet
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    Casterial wrote: »
    ZOS, why nerf DOTs and not HOTs? HOTs were buffed with DOTs, the balance web has to follow one.
    DMG < --- > Heals

    If you change one, the other must change :)

    Is this not true?

    I originally planned to make a big post, but this is literally the only thing bugging me...

    aside from Jabs not getting buffed from Master-At-Arms

    Because Dot's can stack, Hot's can not.

    You can have multiple stacks of soul trap, poison inject, entropy, ect, on you, however, you can only have 1 healing spring on you at a time, you can only have 1 mutagen on you at a time, ect.
    Edited by cmvet on September 17, 2019 2:40AM
  • Casterial
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    cmvet wrote: »
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    Because Dot's can stack, Hot's can not.

    Only some DOTs could I believe
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  • cmvet
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    Only some DOTs could I believe

    poison inject, soul trap, dawn breaker, sheer venom, axe bleed, poison dots, carve, maelstrom crit rush bleed, brp bow dot, all stack from different sources ( and that is just my stamblade dot build, not using sloads because it doesn't work on players right now), now add in all the mag player dots, mos of them stack from other sources as well, and all the other class dots that stack from other sources. Majority of DOT's stack from other sources. In fact I can not think of a DOT that doesn't stack with other players that also apply them.
    Edited by cmvet on September 17, 2019 2:48AM
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    cmvet wrote: »
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    poison inject, soul trap, dawn breaker, sheer venom, axe bleed, poison dots, carve, maelstrom crit rush bleed, brp bow dot, all stack from different sources ( and that is just my stamblade dot build), now add in all the mag player dots, 80% of them stack.

    Each is a different skill? You can stack multiple HOTs.. lol
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    So the DoT meta's already gone? That was quick.
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    Mr_Walker wrote: »
    So the DoT meta's already gone? That was quick.

    DOTs got a HUGE Axe, but basically stam is gone. ZOS pretty much chopped stam up and gave magicka a lot of buffs.. Like I'm stamplar, I feel the pain..but look at stamDK it lost EVERYTHING like no joke
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  • DaNnYtHePcFrEaK
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    In before my 95k dps gets shredded
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    DaNnYtHePcFrEaK wrote: »
    In before my 95k dps gets shredded

    srry mate, make that 63% nerf you're now at ~35k dps
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  • cmvet
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    Each is a different skill? You can stack multiple HOTs.. lol

    No, One persons healing springs wipes out the other persons (you don't have 2 healing springs down, only 1). One persons mutagen wipes out any other mutagen you had on you. That was the change is scalebreaker.

    With Dots you can have 5 people stack poison inject on you, 5 people can stack soul trap on you, 5 people can stack entropy on you ect.

    I think our understanding of "stacking" is different. It's not 1 person placing 5 soul traps on you, it is 5 people each placing 1 soul trap on you so that you have 5 of them ticking away.

    With HOT's if I place healing springs down, then you place yours down on top of mine, mine goes away and only yours does the healing. There is not 2 of them healing you, just 1.
    Edited by cmvet on September 17, 2019 3:03AM
  • DaNnYtHePcFrEaK
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    Casterial wrote: »
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    srry mate, make that 63% nerf you're now at ~35k dps

    Yeah xD may as well fight with breadsticks lol
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    DaNnYtHePcFrEaK wrote: »
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    Yeah xD may as well fight with breadsticks lol

    lol, they should just take away weapons. we can all punch our way through everything.
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    cmvet wrote: »
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    lol, they should just take away weapons. we can all punch our way through everything.

    63% damage reduction to unarmed combat - skill-line added UNARMED Combat. Additional Notes from Developer: Skill-line removed Unarmed combat.
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